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  Quizzical

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5/18/13 4:27:04 PM#41

If you want advice on hardware replacement, then you need to say exactly what hardware you have.  For example, saying that you have a "Core i5" processor doesn't really say much.  All that it really tells you is the relative performance at a particular TDP and within a given generation of Intel parts.  The "at a particular TDP" is huge, as you can get vastly more performance out of a chip that is allowed to burn 95 W than one that has to stay inside of 13 W.

If you don't know what hardware you have, then try running DxDiag and see what it tells you.

  TheScavenger

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OP  5/18/13 4:46:23 PM#42

Not really sure what here is important info or not. But.

 

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU         660 @ 3.33GHz (4 CPUs) , ~ 3.3GHz

Memory: 8192m RAM (its DDR3)

Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (896 MB)

 

That looks like the important stuff. Doesn't tell me anything else about the CPU except that. And there is some other info in the display tab of DXdiag, like approx memory, DAC type, but not sure what those are.

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  Ujirik

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5/18/13 4:56:39 PM#43
I've been to plenty of porn sites in my time and never had a killer virus.  You can always just reformat if anything messes your PC up and the problem will be solved.  I only use Comodo Internet Security, CCleaner and Malwarebytes.  Try not to be so sentimental about your crap and just reformat your PC.

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OP  5/18/13 5:07:59 PM#44

Would this power supply you linked (I'll link it again)

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

 

Be good for a future, modern computer? For when I eventually upgrade? My dad is curious if you linked that one for just the system I have now, or if its good for newer computers too?

 

(edit: As for price range of a up to date PC, my dad said he probably expects something around the 1500 dollar range or so. Probably something like the latest, kinda opposite of what I said earlier today.)

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  nerovipus32

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5/18/13 5:10:33 PM#45
Try a system restore.
  Quizzical

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5/18/13 5:22:19 PM#46
Originally posted by TheScavenger

Would this power supply you linked (I'll link it again)

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

 

Be good for a future, modern computer? For when I eventually upgrade? My dad is curious if you linked that one for just the system I have now, or if its good for newer computers too?

 

(edit: As for price range of a up to date PC, my dad said he probably expects something around the 1500 dollar range or so. Probably something like the latest, kinda opposite of what I said earlier today.)

$1500 would get you a fairly high end gaming rig.  Something modern that is roughly equivalent to what you have now would go for about $600.

So long as you continue to use a single video card and leave everything at stock speeds, that power supply should last you for many years to come.

Seasonic actually just launched their G series recently; the basic principle of it seems to be to deliver nearly as high of end of quality as some of their previous high end power supplies (X-series, then more recently Platinum) while bringing the cost down quite a bit.  The Seasonic G series also offers lower wattages, starting as low as 360 W; being able to get a high end power supply for a low power system (e.g., an office computer) for $60 rather than having to spend $200 to get a ridiculous 1000 W unit if you want high end quality is certainly a welcome development.

Remember that power supplies are based on physical components, not microchips, so they don't scale with anything similar to Moore's Law and have no notion of die shrinks.  Thus power supplies, like cases, can last a long time.

I see no reason to replace a Core i5-660 anytime soon unless either the CPU or the motherboard is damaged.  The processor is probably fine, as they're pretty resilient especially at stock speeds.  The motherboard is more of a concern.

Meanwhile, when you do upgrade to a new high end video card, it probably won't use that much power power than the GeForce GTX 260 that you have now.  At the high end, video cards are limited more by power consumption than die space, and that's going to be true further down the chain as well in future generations.  If you wanted to double your performance by getting, say, a Radeon HD 7850, it would actually use considerably less power than your current card.

  TheScavenger

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OP  5/18/13 5:27:52 PM#47

Thank you for all this help. :) It is great to get tech advice, and actually talk to someone who (well seems) to know what he is talking about. I'd probably stick with a single card like I have been, two seems too much for what I do and one as always been fine.

 

My dad isn't really in the tech business anymore, not up to date on what is good or not.

 

Have any recommendations for both the 1500 range?  He isn't really sure of what is good or not, but we'd probably go the newegg route or whatever gets us a good price and what not. He said he prefer to go all out if we upgrade, and go with the high end stuff. So 600 range is out.

 

As for power supply, I copy pasted what you said (among your other text) and emailed the post to my dad. That way he can read your advice as well.

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  Quizzical

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5/18/13 7:38:15 PM#48

If you're looking to replace the whole system, I'd wait until you are ready to buy and then come back to ask again.  Prices bounce around a lot, and I think New Egg makes a good chunk of their profit off of people who buy something based on old information because it was a good deal the day that someone linked it and is no longer a good deal when someone sees the post a month later and buys it.

If two parts are equivalent except that one costs $80 today and the other costs $100 today, then you want the $80 part.  If their prices swap by the time you're ready to buy something in two weeks, then you want the part that is $80 the day you're ready to buy, not the part that was $80 now and would cost $100 then.

  Ridelynn

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5/19/13 2:43:47 PM#49

For PC's, I would say about $700 gets you something "entry level" - in that it can play all games with at least medium settings at 1080p well, and MAX MAX out many older titles. $1500 gets you nearly top of the line, with diminishing returns getting very steep after that point. And there are all price points in between.

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OP  5/19/13 9:48:19 PM#50

Could have been my power supply, but it looks like it was my graphics card. Played civ 4, hard crash. Wouldn't boot up no matter what I did. Dad looked at it, and agreed it was likely my graphics card that died and he had seen the same symptoms before with dead graphics card. He said its still possible it was my power supply and it wasn't getting enough power, so I'll see tomorrow.

 

But as of now, looks like my graphics card is at fault

 

If it is, I'm using an old low end, tiny graphics card. An nvidia geforce 210! WOOO! Its barely larger than the palm of my hand rofl.

 

Won't be playing any games on this, except text and browser games.

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  TheScavenger

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OP  5/20/13 12:07:14 AM#51
Can you recommend any graphics cards that are in the 150 dollar range? Mine one that looks to be dead is a Geforce 260GTX 896MB...but any out there in that price range, that are better?  Mine was like 500 when I got it, but with how fast PC hardware ages...my dad imagines I can get something better than my current one, but cheaper. If that makes sense.

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  miguksaram

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5/20/13 2:33:59 AM#52
Assuming you can flex a little ($10-20) above the $150 range you can find an AMD 7850 1Gb card in that range on sale which is a very respectable card for the money.  Otherwise you are closer to the AMD 7790 or Nvidia GTX 650Ti, both also being the 1Gb versions.  You can find a 2Gb version of each but they run closer to the AMD 7850 price point.  You could also consider the GTX 650 (non Ti version) 2Gb version for your asking price of $150 but I personally wouldn't recommend it.  You would be MUCH better off spending (or saving up if you can't afford it now) the extra money on the aforementioned GPUs.
  Quizzical

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5/20/13 4:55:02 AM#53
Originally posted by TheScavenger
Can you recommend any graphics cards that are in the 150 dollar range? Mine one that looks to be dead is a Geforce 260GTX 896MB...but any out there in that price range, that are better?  Mine was like 500 when I got it, but with how fast PC hardware ages...my dad imagines I can get something better than my current one, but cheaper. If that makes sense.

The GeForce GTX 260 was something like $450 at launch, and then $300 two months later when AMD launched the Radeon HD 4870 and it was better than most people expected.  And it was under $150 a year later after AMD started a price war and Nvidia had to sell probably at a loss to clear inventory.

Anyway, the nearest modern equivalents are a GeForce GTX 650 or a Radeon HD 7750, either of which are around $100.  On a strict $150 budget, I'd go with a Radeon HD 7790:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161434

If you're willing to go a few dollars over that budget, you can get a Radeon HD 7850, which would roughly double the performance of your old card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

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OP  5/20/13 2:47:23 PM#54

I sent those two links to my dad, so I'll see what he thinks. It isn't a strict 150 dollar balance, but some 20-30 dollars less/more probably doesn't matter. He did looking around as well and linked me this early in the morning.

 

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GTX650Ti-SuperClocked-Dual-Link-Graphics/dp/B00BZB0I3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369060851&sr=8-1&keywords=GTX+650+Ti+BOOST+2GB+192-bit

 

That one looks pretty cheap and would be a huge upgrade to my dead one. Gets good reviews as well. However it take a week or two to save up money for it. Even a 150 dollar card or a bit cheaper one, would still take the same amount of time to save for...so the price doesn't matter too much. But I don't think my dad would want to go past 200 dollars or more, as that is slightly past our income. But that card on amazon is a really good price for what I'd get. And like I said, way better than what I had. Do you know anything about it by chance?

 

It is definitely the graphics card though. When one gets lines and red dots at boot up, that is a bad graphics card from what my dad read up on it.

 

At least I get an upgrade out of it ;p and a new power supply.

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5/20/13 4:42:42 PM#55

While it would be easy to have software create lines and red dots if you wanted to, if it does that when it's not supposed to, then yeah, that usually means the video card is dying.

That's too much to pay for that particular card.  That's a lot more expensive than the Radeon HD 7850 that I linked earlier:  $26.60 before rebate or $31.60 after rebate.  And the Radeon HD 7850 is a faster card, too.

If it's video memory capacity that you're looking at, then you should be aware that the GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost mismatches the memory channels.  It should have been a 1.5 GB card, as if you use more than that, you lose memory bandwidth.  But AMD had a 2 GB version of the Radeon HD 7850, so Nvidia stuck an extra 512 MB on their card for reasons of marketing rather than engineering.

And if you are willing to pay more for a faster card with more video memory, then a 2 GB version of a Radeon HD 7870 is the way to go:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025

That's a much faster card, on top of letting you use the full 2 GB of video memory.

You should realize that the only real advantage of 2 GB of video memory rather than 1 GB is that it will let you use higher resolution textures in games with a high resolution texture pack.

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