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  Redcor

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OP  5/17/13 2:09:22 PM#21
Originally posted by Rigur
It's just a numbers game. 10 million players 30% jerks = 3 million idiots to run into. As a game becomes smaller you have less jerks to run into so the community becomes better. On the higher sub not sure if it would work EQ had a legends server for 45$ a month for awhile. I only tried it for one month so can't really say how the community was.

Now that's a good idea, a more expensive server. Do they still have it running ?

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  Quizzical

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5/17/13 2:10:33 PM#22

I've sometimes wondered what would happen if a game tried to charge $50/month.  If it meant that they lost half of their players as compared to charging $15/month, they'd still make more money at it this way.  If it meant that they lost 90% of their players, then the model becomes a failure.

If you try to charge $16/month rather than $15/month, then you probably lose a decent number of customers just due to human spite.  But if you charge a lot more and lose a lot of your customers, that may be all right.

  Shadanwolf

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5/17/13 2:12:23 PM#23
I would think mommy and daddy just pay  the subscription . Paying is a weak tool to constrain jerks.
  Tjed

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5/17/13 2:14:43 PM#24
Originally posted by Rigur
 EQ had a legends server for 45$ a month for awhile. I only tried it for one month so can't really say how the community was.

My goodness I haven't thought about Stormhammer in a very long time.  Made me go dig this up:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/everquest-legends-qanda-2848677

It lasted a little while, I never played on it, but I had some friends that tried it out.  It did have a very similar design concept to what the OP suggested. 

 

  atticusbc

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5/17/13 2:15:13 PM#25
oh good. another unwashed masses thread.
  monstermmo

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5/17/13 2:17:06 PM#26

No. Parents already pay for the "asshats" games and subscription fee's so no i don't think it would do anything other than make even less people subscribe due to its high cost.

On top of that there are plenty of adult asshats paying their own fee's. It's a numbers name like Rigur said.

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  Redcor

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Your not in traffic you are traffic.

 
OP  5/17/13 2:18:39 PM#27
Originally posted by Tjed
Originally posted by Rigur
 EQ had a legends server for 45$ a month for awhile. I only tried it for one month so can't really say how the community was.

My goodness I haven't thought about Stormhammer in a very long time.  Made me go dig this up:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/everquest-legends-qanda-2848677

It lasted a little while, I never played on it, but I had some friends that tried it out.  It did have a very similar design concept to what the OP suggested. 

 

I never heard of this until today but its the best idea I have seen so far. This type of idea could work within a F2P world and would probably do a decent job of what I am suggesting. Not sure if it would get reintroduced ever again but I would go for it in a flash.

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  Bladestrom

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5/17/13 2:19:34 PM#28
Lol almost without exception the most obnoxious rude and impatient behaviour i have seen Is from (clearly unhappy) adults.

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  Rigur

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5/17/13 2:19:39 PM#29
No they shut it down awhile back. It lasted for a long time tho.

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  Iselin

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5/17/13 2:23:34 PM#30
Originally posted by atticusbc
oh good. another unwashed masses thread.

Yeah the great unwashed...why don't they just wash the f*** up?

This financial gating rubs me the wrong way. Especially since studies have shown that when it comes to anti-social behavior, it's the wealthy and privileged who behave the worst: 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/27/upper-class-people-behave-selfishly

You want to talk about gating through personality profiling and I'll think about it... but only if I get to be on the admissions board of directors.

  Shadowguy64

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5/17/13 2:23:47 PM#31
Some of you guys using logic and reason have no place in this thread. The OP wants us to think that paying more is better. So please stop!!
  Scalpless

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5/17/13 2:25:12 PM#32
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Lol almost without exception the most obnoxious rude and impatient behaviour i have seen Is from (clearly unhappy) adults.

This. Kids can be impatient and stupid, but the ones who put real effort into being obnoxious tend to be adults.

  Redcor

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OP  5/17/13 2:25:30 PM#33
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Some of you guys using logic and reason have no place in this thread. The OP wants us to think that paying more is better. So please stop!!

Not at all. I simply posed a question. I really like the idea of a more expensive server though.

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can
be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
-Robert E. Howard

  Shadowguy64

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5/17/13 2:32:42 PM#34
Originally posted by Redcor
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Some of you guys using logic and reason have no place in this thread. The OP wants us to think that paying more is better. So please stop!!

Not at all. I simply posed a question. I really like the idea of a more expensive server though.

 

If enough people were willing to do it so the more expensive server wasn't an empty wasteland, then that might be good.  But I just don't see a lot of people spending more for the same thing when there is no guarantee that the expensive server wouldn't have it's share of asshats...which is the reason for the separate server.

  Razeekster

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5/17/13 2:33:59 PM#35
Sounds like an MMO for high-class whores.

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  Redcor

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Your not in traffic you are traffic.

 
OP  5/17/13 2:37:20 PM#36
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Redcor
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Some of you guys using logic and reason have no place in this thread. The OP wants us to think that paying more is better. So please stop!!

Not at all. I simply posed a question. I really like the idea of a more expensive server though.

 

If enough people were willing to do it so the more expensive server wasn't an empty wasteland, then that might be good.  But I just don't see a lot of people spending more for the same thing when there is no guarantee that the expensive server wouldn't have it's share of asshats...which is the reason for the separate server.

Agreed. There would have to be some incentive there that appealed to the more community driven players that plan on sticking around longer. Like things like player housing or RP elements possibly.

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can
be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
-Robert E. Howard

  Redcor

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Your not in traffic you are traffic.

 
OP  5/17/13 2:43:51 PM#37
Originally posted by Razeekster
Sounds like an MMO for high-class whores.

That's why your a spotlight poster. Such insight and constructive criticism.

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can
be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
-Robert E. Howard

  Etherignis

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5/17/13 2:47:59 PM#38
I love sub and hybrid models, i wish there were more good mmos that stick with sub fees.
  Razeekster

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5/17/13 2:48:02 PM#39
Originally posted by Redcor
Originally posted by Razeekster
Sounds like an MMO for high-class whores.

That's why your a spotlight poster. Such insight and constructive criticism.

It's called having a sense of humor. Doesn't sound like you have one. Also, what does being a "spotlight poster" have anything to do with, well anything? Is that supposed to make me some sort of classy-wise person? I'm not a try hard. I say what I think.

 

The only people that are going to be attracted to a $25 or higher priced MMO is people with quite a bit of extra money to spend. Seeing as how most of the population is made up of people that wouldn't be able to afford such a price no MMO that charged that much would ever be successful. It'd be laughed out of the market. 

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  Arclan

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5/17/13 2:49:06 PM#40


Originally posted by Redcor

Originally posted by Razeekster Sounds like an MMO for high-class whores.
That's why your a spotlight poster. Such insight and constructive criticism.

ROFL oh yes the cream rises to the top here at MMORPG. Or Not.


O.P., yes, of course a sub-based game would keep out the majority of IDBs. That goes without saying. $25 is a bit high, but I would pay it for a decent title, which the industry has not seen in a LONG time.


O.P. you should retitle this thread to Asshat-bait. Since you seem to have attracted all the asshats on MMORPG to this thread.

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