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  eccoton

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5/17/13 3:00:54 PM#121
Originally posted by popezaphod
RIFT is a ghost town?  Tell that to my guild that's raiding three nights a week and to the dozens of Great Hunt and DRR raids that are happening every day on Wolfsbane.
 

Agreed! Rift is no ghost town.

  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:02:23 PM#122
Originally posted by sidrian

Wow might have the largest subscribers base, but it doesn't make it a 2013 game. The time has changed, we are sick of mmorpgs with standard quests, standard lvls, and standard bullshit.

This year is when things begin to change, this year ppl are starting to appreciate the TRUE mmorpg genre, the sandbox. Because, IMO, all the other mmorpgs (i think they'r more commonly named Themeparks) don't have replay value. I mean, if you like to log in, click on top of a monster head and get it's xp, you are a kid with nothing else to do.

People who got a life don't want to do meaningless things in a mmorpg, it's a fact. A good mmorpg must have surprise and fear elements, each time you log in you'll have a different experience because everything is player-driven, not just a bunch of AI npcs standing there.

This genre need more full-loot pvp, player-crafter usefull stuff, building... just like UO, Darkfall, and from what i've heard, EvE.

Usually, people who like games such as Neverwinter, Wow, GW2, and all the cloned garbage, simply haven't tasted the REAL stuff, the REAL fear of death and adrenaline rush experiences that one can have when battling a Boss while a PK is on your tail just waiting to steal your reward.

If you're not rdy for this, go back to the past decade, cuz 2013 it's going the right way.

Or, people could like different things and that is ok.

Go play UO, Darkfall, EvE, etc.

Me? I enjoyed playing UO about 1,000x more when they did the Trammel/Felucca split, but I still spent a good chunk of time on Siege Perilous which was only Felucca and had slower skill gains.

To each their own - a concept I really, really, really REALLY wish people on MMORPG.com would understand.

Quality is not subjective. Quality = polish, Polish = lack of bugs, game systems work as they're supposed to, service is available and performance is acceptable. etc.

Personal taste for game mechanics IS subjective.

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  ShakyMo

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5/17/13 3:04:42 PM#123
Originally posted by sidrian

Wow might have the largest subscribers base, but it doesn't make it a 2013 game. The time has changed, we are sick of mmorpgs with standard quests, standard lvls, and standard bullshit.

so why the hell is a subpar wow in space on the list then?

This year is when things begin to change, this year ppl are starting to appreciate the TRUE mmorpg genre, the sandbox. Because, IMO, all the other mmorpgs (i think they'r more commonly named Themeparks) don't have replay value. I mean, if you like to log in, click on top of a monster head and get it's xp, you are a kid with nothing else to do.

fair enough 3 of the 7 are sandboxes

People who got a life don't want to do meaningless things in a mmorpg, it's a fact. A good mmorpg must have surprise and fear elements, each time you log in you'll have a different experience because everything is player-driven, not just a bunch of AI npcs standing there.

so why isnt ps2 in the list then, thats entirely player driven, has 3/4 million players per week and certainly isnt a "wow style mmo"

This genre need more full-loot pvp, player-crafter usefull stuff, building... just like UO, Darkfall, and from what i've heard, EvE.

Usually, people who like games such as Neverwinter, Wow, GW2, and all the cloned garbage, simply haven't tasted the REAL stuff, the REAL fear of death and adrenaline rush experiences that one can have when battling a Boss while a PK is on your tail just waiting to steal your reward.

i dont see GW2 as a clone game, it borrows a few things from daoc, war, rift and coh... but its a fairly unique package.  Its not like say how swtor and rift are to wow,

If you're not rdy for this, go back to the past decade, cuz 2013 it's going the right way.

 

  Razeekster

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5/17/13 3:05:32 PM#124
How the heck did Neverwinter even make it on the list?! It's like a generic themepark MMO that offers nothing new and has one of the most expensive cash shops out there.  I was bored of it within an hour but made myself play it another couple days before finally uninstalling because it felt like a soul-sucking experience playing it that long.

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  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:06:19 PM#125
Originally posted by Razeekster
How the heck did Neverwinter even make it on the list?! It's like a generic themepark MMO that offers nothing new and has one of the most expensive cash shops out there.  I was bored of it within an hour but made myself play it another couple days before finally uninstalling because it felt like a soul-sucking experience playing it that long.

People could like different things and that is OK.

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  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:07:12 PM#126
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  DavisFlight

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5/17/13 3:07:18 PM#127
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  MMOGamer71

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5/17/13 3:08:19 PM#128

Star Wars: The Old Republic? No Rift or LOTRO?

 

How much was that check from EA?

  crimzonxskyz

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5/17/13 3:09:22 PM#129

Ozmodan writes:

Agree with the list except for Neverwinter.  With it's predatory cash shop the game is a instant no play for many of us.  Sure you can have fun in the game, but isn't the idea of a MMO to develop your character to end game.  You really can't have an end game with what is only in their cash shop, so why waste the time?  There are plenty of fun MMO's out there.

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The cash shop in Neverwinter does not afford you any items that would potentially give you any statistical boost or advantage over any other players, Everything in the cash shop is stuff you can attain in game with the in game Currency via there Currency exchange system... Agreed it might take you some time to get the items on the so called Cash Shop but It is attainable... Nobody bitched when they were playing everquest for 12 hours a day just to grind out ONE bloody level....

 

honestly I cannot believe that GW2 made number 1 with how many bugs the game was released with...

 
 
  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:10:05 PM#130
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Or the fact each of those games has about eleventy thousand more players than Darkfall.

Get your own website, have millions of viewers, make your own list...

Or are MMORPG.com not allowed to have their list (opinion) because you disagree with it? Go somewhere else...

I couldn't stand NW for more than 20 minutes and I think DF is a JOKE and TSW is a bad game.

But I'm not going to sit here and pretend I speak for anyone other than myself.

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  Cacolaco

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5/17/13 3:10:39 PM#131

I think all the hate for SWTOR is ridiculous. It's a good game. It's the only game I am playing with RL friends right now, and the big reason we are playing it is because it's free to play. I think that it is very valid for a best mmo list for 2013.

I also agree with Darkfall being on the list. I am starting to get really tired of the quests in mmorpgs. Honestly, it's just a different kind of grind. I'd rather the players make their own story than to grind my way through a thousand different variations of the same quest (kill 10 of x, activate y). If developers can't figure out a way to make questing more appealing/less mindless, then they should build systems that allow players to make their own story. Give me a game where I don't just feel like skipping over the quest text.

I'm just waiting for a F2P overhyped sandbox WoW clone with full PVP, epic raid bosses, instanced group content, and Crysis-quality graphics to come out. That, or something fun.

  jtcgs

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5/17/13 3:11:53 PM#132

Such a bad list. Swtor?!? EvE and all you said about it was that the staff likes it and its 10 years old and growing!

Didn't NCSoft announce their earnings and state that Lineage 1 was its fastest growing game?!? So there is a 15 year old game that is growing, and it grew more than Eve so why isn't it on the list also?

 

Bad list is bad, games are on it for no real reason for a list of "best MMOs".

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  MMOGamer71

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5/17/13 3:12:19 PM#133
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Holy moly is this column flat out sponsored or what? SWTOR? TSW? On a best of list?

People could like different things and that is OK.

Then people should not be claiming an MMO is "the best" unless they defend it. SWTOR, TERA, and TSW are retty much universally regarded as horrible MMOs. But, because they have spent millions in ads on THIS SITE, they get ranked higher than a game like Darkfall every day of the week.

Or the fact each of those games has about eleventy thousand more players than Darkfall.

Get your own website, have millions of viewers, make your own list...

Or are MMORPG.com not allowed to have their list (opinion) because you disagree with it? Go somewhere else...

I couldn't stand NW for more than 20 minutes and I think DF is a JOKE and TSW is a bad game.

But I'm not going to sit here and pretend I speak for anyone other than myself.

So having an opinion on an opinion is bad?

 

Logical................................

  Jonoku

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5/17/13 3:13:36 PM#134
I'm giving rift a try just to see, regardless if I'm going to enjoy it or not or play it a lot or not, rift could at least be top 25. Rift could be the best MMO F2P game. I might play rift for free just for visiting people's dimensions to look at their creativity.

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  Digirono

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5/17/13 3:14:37 PM#135
Originally posted by Grakulen
The OP is a witch. Burn him!

I agree, he would taste really good burnt. BURN HIM!

  Randayn

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5/17/13 3:14:57 PM#136

1. TSW - Unique and awesome game

2. Neverwinter - Unique as well and the Foundry is awesome.  What's with all the hate?

3. SWTOR - still a fun game to play

4. Defiance 

5. WoW

6. GW2 - the epitomy of generic...

7. Darkfall - hardcore pvp build drops it down the list

I just can't consider space travel games MMO's....maybe they are...but I can't

  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:15:03 PM#137
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  simsalabim77

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5/17/13 3:15:31 PM#138
Relax. It's the staff's opinion. They are not definitively saying which games are best. They are saying what games, in their opinion are the best. They even briefly give reasons why for each one. It's a fluff piece, and you neck beards are acting like they said, for certain, what the best games are. How do some of you function in real life if you get so worked up over a difference of opinion when it comes to MMOs?
  Badaboom

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5/17/13 3:16:16 PM#139
Darkfall should have been at number 3.  In terms of long term playability it should have been #2, right after EvE.
  BadSpock

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5/17/13 3:16:39 PM#140
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Relax. It's the staff's opinion. They are not definitively saying which games are best. They are saying what games, in their opinion are the best. They even briefly give reasons why for each one. It's a fluff piece, and you neck beards are acting like they said, for certain, what the best games are. How do some of you function in real life if you get so worked up over a difference of opinion when it comes to MMOs?

Because being right is the only thing that matters on the internet, apparently.

Only ads I've seen recently are RO2, STO, and Scarlet Blade - yet none made the list.

Yep, must be MMORPG.com is corrupt and advertising $'s = their opinion...

 

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