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  Dogblaster

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5/14/13 11:19:27 AM#41
Originally posted by faxnadu
Originally posted by Myria

Sad to hear this, always had a bit of a soft spot for Rift even though I haven't played it in a while.

 

With Hartman gone it was only a matter of time, but, honestly, if they think this will fix what's wrong with the game or bring in a long term increase in the playerbase I think they're fooling themselves -- and badly.

 

Time will tell, I suppose, but if there's ever anything more than the usual initial announcement of how successful the conversion was, followed by the usual deafening silence, I'll be very, very surprised.

do some research, how this is sad news? f2p game model with item mall is making more money than recular sub without any extra.

 

Ahhh and you are investor or player?

  marz.at.play

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nanu nanu

5/14/13 11:20:33 AM#42
This is HUGE. It is a great game. Only reason I unsubbed was because I wasn't spending enough time playing it due to real life happening and therefore couldn't justify a sub. I will be back! Can't wait.

  MagusGW

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5/14/13 11:30:24 AM#43
 I'm very disappointed that Trion went this route. F2P always seems to micro transact the crap out of everything. As far as no tricks or traps of course there wont be any, we have seen them all by now. People have gotten used to what happens to a MMO that goes from subs to F2P. F2P ruined Fallen Earth it made me hate SWTOR and made AoC unbearable as well. Get rdy to start paying for extra toon slots, extra bars for your abilities and you have to pay for macros lol. It may be a bit of an exaggeration but you get the idea. The fact that the game will be flooded with immature children put the last nail in the coffin that's Rift for me. Sorry Trion ill add you to my F2P black list. You have lost another longtime player.
  MagusGW

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5/14/13 11:33:31 AM#44
May seem like a rant but sick of seeing this happen to sub MMOS.
  WelshyJT

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5/14/13 11:34:34 AM#45
Devastated, im out.
  MMOGamer71

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5/14/13 11:35:16 AM#46
  bcbully

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5/14/13 11:37:02 AM#47

this is not a blow against p2p this is a blow against the copy past themeparks of an era past. 

 

Good game, but it was the last of a generation.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  erictlewis

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5/14/13 11:41:16 AM#48

All I can say is I agree with the this,  I know a lot of folks who lately come back to eq2 that had been huge rift supports are making claims of how slow the game has become and how the population is in full decline. 

This might fix things for them, or not.  Who knows. 

 

  duggyfr3sh123

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5/14/13 11:41:20 AM#49
Originally posted by boxsnd
This is the final nail in P2P's coffin. I am now 100% sure TESO and Wildstar won't be P2P either.

Wildstar is P2P. probably they will offer a option of box only.

  Vyeth

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5/14/13 11:41:23 AM#50

I KNEW IT... That "free" promotion on Raptr was no "coincidence" ... That was planned from the start.. And the vocal ones will say "it will fail" etc.. But on June 12th, the queues will be unbearable and the servers will once again be filled to the brim.. Doesn't exactly mean "income" but I hope the cash shop isn't going to be draconian in nature much like SWTOR was when it began with having to buy "Hotbars"..

  Punk999

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5/14/13 11:43:18 AM#51
Very nice i really enjoy rift too.

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  danwest58

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5/14/13 11:48:50 AM#52

First I seen this coming back in Jan when I left Rift.  There gear grind to get raiding burned a lot of people out and the top guilds were having major issues getting people that wanted to raid.  They did not do anything than copy and paste WoW into their own world.  Not many people seen a reason to play Rift over WoW other than it was not WoW.

Second until the 3rd Generation of AAA MMOs release (Not ESO or WildStart) will we see P2P come back.  What is the point of paying $15 a month for a second rate MMO?  If you are bored with WoW you go to another MMO and pay for it if its worth it for you.  If not you dont pay and you play for free as much as you can.

Third people who think P2P is done for are just people that look at the world with tinted glasses.  They dont pay attension to the market and WHY things happen.  People will be paying for a good MMO like WoW when a game that is worth it comes out.  Until then the hybrid models will do.

  RizelStar

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5/14/13 11:49:39 AM#53

So how many MMORPGs are left P2P that are considered healthy?

 

Can only think of Eve and I guess WoW but it just lost over 1 million subs, still has a lot so I'll count that, so 2  that I can think of.

 

 

 

 

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  Arakazi

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5/14/13 11:50:37 AM#54
Since this has happened to a game I was currently subbing, I have kinda accepted that the P2P model that I prefer is pretty much going the way of the dodo. F2P is the model all games are heading, cash shops, pets, mounts and XP potions etc. something that was once a considered a stain in MMOs are now the norm.

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  danwest58

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5/14/13 11:55:39 AM#55
Originally posted by RizelStar

So how many MMORPGs are left P2P that are considered healthy?

 

Can only think of Eve and I guess WoW but it just lost over 1 million subs, still has a lot so I'll count that, so 2  that I can think of.

 

 

 

 

Thats cause games like Eve can be P2P because they are all profit right now.  Just like why UO is still P2P, its been paid for 100 times over and now its just profit.  Too many games made in the last 7 years that only had a little success and thought they were going to be the next WoW.  Well that cost companies big time money and only made a little profit.  Look at SWTOR, 250 Million just to make it.  EQNEXT and Titan will change the MMO landscape and will likely be P2P because they will be worth it.  Look how popular EQNEXT is already because people know it will be a sandbox.

  Vannor

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5/14/13 11:57:21 AM#56
They better get their servers good and ready cos they are gunna go BOOM.
  Arakazi

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5/14/13 12:01:56 PM#57
Originally posted by danwest58
Originally posted by RizelStar

So how many MMORPGs are left P2P that are considered healthy?

 

Can only think of Eve and I guess WoW but it just lost over 1 million subs, still has a lot so I'll count that, so 2  that I can think of.

 

 

 

 

Thats cause games like Eve can be P2P because they are all profit right now.  Just like why UO is still P2P, its been paid for 100 times over and now its just profit.  Too many games made in the last 7 years that only had a little success and thought they were going to be the next WoW.  Well that cost companies big time money and only made a little profit.  Look at SWTOR, 250 Million just to make it.  EQNEXT and Titan will change the MMO landscape and will likely be P2P because they will be worth it.  Look how popular EQNEXT is already because people know it will be a sandbox.

Yeah, some of us felt the same about Rift, SWTOR and so on and so on. I'm too disillusioned at the moment to believe that some game that we have heard very little solid information about is going to charge in and save the day. Hard fact is that Rift pretty much failed. It was too similar to all the other games that it was competing against to really stand out. Too grindy to keep peoples attention and too much more of the same.

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  atticusbc

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5/14/13 12:03:01 PM#58
excellent
  danwest58

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5/14/13 12:05:06 PM#59
Originally posted by Arakazi
Originally posted by danwest58
Originally posted by RizelStar

So how many MMORPGs are left P2P that are considered healthy?

 

Can only think of Eve and I guess WoW but it just lost over 1 million subs, still has a lot so I'll count that, so 2  that I can think of.

 

 

 

 

Thats cause games like Eve can be P2P because they are all profit right now.  Just like why UO is still P2P, its been paid for 100 times over and now its just profit.  Too many games made in the last 7 years that only had a little success and thought they were going to be the next WoW.  Well that cost companies big time money and only made a little profit.  Look at SWTOR, 250 Million just to make it.  EQNEXT and Titan will change the MMO landscape and will likely be P2P because they will be worth it.  Look how popular EQNEXT is already because people know it will be a sandbox.

Yeah, some of us felt the same about Rift, SWTOR and so on and so on. I'm too disillusioned at the moment to believe that some game that we have heard very little solid information about is going to charge in and save the day. Hard fact is that Rift pretty much failed. It was too similar to all the other games that it was competing against to really stand out. Too grindy to keep peoples attention and too much more of the same.

I agree it was grindy; thats why myself and a dozen friends quit back in Jan.  You have to spend time gearing up for normals, then experts then raids.  I can tell you I seen it very quickly that people got tired of the grind.  Thats why few people were left that wanted to raid.  

  strangiato2112

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5/14/13 12:06:50 PM#60

Wonder if the updates will pick back up after the conversion.  Last major patch was before storm legion, and storm legion was 6 months ago. (2.1 was content held back from Storm Legion and 2.2 was Planar Attunement, the bulk of which was designed a year prior)

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