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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] Rift: Going Free to Play June 12th

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  GameByNight

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5/14/13 11:36:55 AM#21

I support this move. The pace of new content has dramatically slowed down and by all reports the population was dropping, probably as a result of being one of the last "old guard" of the subscription model. This will, without doubt, ensure I go back to the game and finish leveling and probably even spend a few dollars to support one of the best MMOs out there today. And with any luck, lots of other players will come to that same conclusion about RIFT's quality.

 

That said, I'm concerned about them selling "great items" for credits. You can earn them in-game, so that's good, but it runs the risk of devaluing people's efforts in actually playing.Selling rep boosters also incentives designing towards longer grinds you have to visit the cash shop. 

 

That's the fundamental problem with F2P -- and I don't mind the model. Instead of focusing on creating great content, you get an attention split between great design and manipulating players into spending money. Do it even slightly wrong and people get angry, ala LotRO.

 
 

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  orbitxo

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5/14/13 11:40:02 AM#22
Originally posted by Skullagrim

Not shocked, they all do anymore. WoW remains supreme...hahahaha :p

i think youll be shocked come Blizzcon, little fella.

  Karelia

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5/14/13 11:40:16 AM#23
Now thats something. One of the 4-5 top mmo's i played the last 10 years. Quit mostly due to low pop servers. If they make a TERA like f2p system and GOD NOT A SWTOR like, then this game has the potential to erase of the mmo market many of its competitors.
  MadnessRealm

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5/14/13 11:41:21 AM#24

Ultimately, that RIFT could remain P2P for a few good years were as other P2Ps and B2Ps had to go F2P within 6 months shows that at least RIFT delivered somewhere (even if LOTRO and DDO lasted longer in that regard)

I'm not particularly a fan of Themeparks, but I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't enjoyed RIFT a little for what it had to offer, even if I never subbed to the game. If anything, RIFT might just be a game I could play on and off to kill some time, and if I end up enjoying it enough, then I wouldn't mind subbing or spending money on the Cash Shop.

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  Raventree

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5/14/13 11:43:50 AM#25

I finally unsubbed like 3 days ago because I am short on money and there are a lot of F2P options out there.  It looks like I will be back playing Rift in just a few more days!  This is an absolutely fantastic game and what it lacks in making a strong first impression with its sort of generic looking world, it makes up for in polish and constant updates.  Trion is my favorite dev right now because of the speed of updates and how they listen to their customers so closely.

Here is what I am hoping for with F2P:

1)  Huge influx of players.

2)  More ganking.

3)  More people buying and selling.

4)  More people out questing.

Here is what will most likely come along for the ride:

1)  More chat trolling and anti-social F2P kiddies.

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World of Warcraft, AoC

  Reizla

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MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

5/14/13 11:46:13 AM#26
Thinking about this move... Might is also have something to do with ArcheAge that TRION will be hosting..?

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  Shaigh

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5/14/13 11:46:52 AM#27
Originally posted by Raventree

Here is what will most likely come along for the ride:

1)  More chat trolling and anti-social F2P kiddies.

Or as its known in WoW, players.

  Raventree

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5/14/13 11:48:58 AM#28
Originally posted by GameByNight

I support this move. The pace of new content has dramatically slowed down and by all reports the population was dropping, probably as a result of being one of the last "old guard" of the subscription model. This will, without doubt, ensure I go back to the game and finish leveling and probably even spend a few dollars to support one of the best MMOs out there today. And with any luck, lots of other players will come to that same conclusion about RIFT's quality.

I think the problem is that there are so many F2P options out there that players aren't really expecting to have to sub anymore.  It is a mixed bag, but it has worked out quite well for SWToR.

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  Raventree

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5/14/13 11:50:27 AM#29
Originally posted by Shaigh
Originally posted by Raventree

Here is what will most likely come along for the ride:

1)  More chat trolling and anti-social F2P kiddies.

Or as its known in WoW, players.

I played WoW for 5 years, I completely agree.

Currently playing:
Rift
Played:
SWToR, Aion,EQ, Dark Age of Camelot
World of Warcraft, AoC

  Eivi

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Posts: 102

Never sacrifice freedom for security

5/14/13 11:52:22 AM#30
Originally posted by Raventree
Originally posted by Shaigh
Originally posted by Raventree

Here is what will most likely come along for the ride:

1)  More chat trolling and anti-social F2P kiddies.

Or as its known in WoW, players.

I played WoW for 5 years, I completely agree.

I concur, played since Vanilla beta.

  Battlerock

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5/14/13 11:52:36 AM#31
This is a pretty big deal #cancelswowsub
  boxsnd

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5/14/13 11:52:37 AM#32
This is the final nail in P2P's coffin. I am now 100% sure TESO and Wildstar won't be P2P either.

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  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

5/14/13 11:57:39 AM#33
Originally posted by tawess
Originally posted by Skullagrim

Not shocked, they all do anymore. WoW remains supreme...hahahaha :p

That being said i think you will never see another subscription game out of Blizzard.

 

 

If the game is good then a subscription based game will still have a place, as SWTOR proved at launch with 2 million. Due to the game not being good and not having any staying power, it declined super fast.

Although SWTOR may have killed any viable future subscription based games dead, as people may be reluctant to get involved at the start and wait for F2P more so now, but if any company has the chance of doing another viable sub based game again, it will be Blizzard.

  Ligi

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5/14/13 12:03:30 PM#34
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by tawess
Originally posted by Skullagrim

Not shocked, they all do anymore. WoW remains supreme...hahahaha :p

That being said i think you will never see another subscription game out of Blizzard.

 

 

If the game is good then a subscription based game will still have a place, as SWTOR proved at launch with 2 million. Due to the game not being good and not having any staying power, it declined super fast.

Although SWTOR may have killed any viable future subscription based games dead, as people may be reluctant to get involved at the start and wait for F2P more so now, but if any company has the chance of doing another viable sub based game again, it will be Blizzard.

I agree with all. 

  Mardukk

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5/14/13 12:05:09 PM#35
I tried this game in beta and it was a really dull WoW knock off at the time, with tiny zones and linear game play.  I may try it again as it sounds like they have tried to correct some of the initial problems it had.
  Four0Six

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5/14/13 12:05:38 PM#36

Too little too late.

 

  faxnadu

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Posts: 956

5/14/13 12:13:42 PM#37
Originally posted by Myria

Sad to hear this, always had a bit of a soft spot for Rift even though I haven't played it in a while.

 

With Hartman gone it was only a matter of time, but, honestly, if they think this will fix what's wrong with the game or bring in a long term increase in the playerbase I think they're fooling themselves -- and badly.

 

Time will tell, I suppose, but if there's ever anything more than the usual initial announcement of how successful the conversion was, followed by the usual deafening silence, I'll be very, very surprised.

do some research, how this is sad news? f2p game model with item mall is making more money than recular sub without any extra.

  Shodanas

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5/14/13 12:14:26 PM#38
Originally posted by Skullagrim

Not shocked, they all do anymore. WoW remains supreme...hahahaha :p

WoW lost 1.4 mill subs in a 3 month period. At this rate F2P isn't to far away.

  Onomas

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Posts: 1160

Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

5/14/13 12:14:34 PM#39

F2P isnt a solution its a bandaid to fix the main overall issue of all newer games.

Lack of content

waste of time on story and fluff instead of features and creativity

mazes instead of worlds

lack of a good crafting and business aspect

poor fighting mechanics

turning true and epic mmorpgs into console based rpgs

hand holding and easy content instead of making players earn their stuff

loot based system over a good player based economy

removing most all social aspects from a rpg

and so much more......

 

You cant expect people to pay for wow clones and cookie cutters. Most games today are the exact same thing with new skins. Its seems eye candy and cut scenes are what mmorpgs are about today. Its sickening. Ill pay top dollar for a game that just sucks me into game and keeps me content for a loooong time. But no we get games were you can hit max level in 3 days and forced to grind over and over on dailies, raids, and warzones as content.

 

 

  Dogblaster

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5/14/13 12:17:44 PM#40
lol .. now I am glad I quit Rift few weeks ago :(
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