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  simsalabim77

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5/13/13 1:11:05 AM#61
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by InsaneDalek

 

Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

 

 

I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

 

Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

 

If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

They were lied to and robbed. The gambling industry gets most of their profits from these people. Without these people the gambling industry would crumble.

Blaming the people who ruined their lives is clever enough, and false enough. But at least one thing is accomplished. The direction of resentment against the gambling industry is redirected.

They weren't lied to. It's gambling. Look it up in the dictionary. 

 

to expose to hazard; risk

to bet on an uncertain outcome

to take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit

to engage in reckless or hazardous behavior

to play a game of chance for stakes

 

It's not rocket science. People gamble knowing that they could lose. I'm done arguing with you as our views on this are diametrically opposed. 

  Magiknight

Novice Member

Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:13:34 AM#62
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by InsaneDalek

 

Bullshit. People are ultimately responsible for their actions. Gambling, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, tobacco use, obesity, etc. aren't afflictions or diseases. They're personal decisions, or the consequences thereof.

Just because some people have problems with gambling doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone who chooses to enjoy it responsibly as well. Same goes for fast food, alcohol, soda, lawn darts, etc.

It's ridiculous how many people worldwide are blaming their mistakes on everyone BUT themselves, then calling for Big Brother to protect them from their own stupidity and poor judgment. It's very much a, "If I can't have it, no one will!", attitude.

 

 

I agree with this 100%. I was a huge fatty at one point who stuffed his face with entire pizzas and 2 liters of soda. I didn't blame the makers of the pizza and soda. I got angry with myself one day and decided to stop being fat. People really need to start taking responsibility for their actions. 

So you could change what happened to you.  That's good. Someone who has gambled away their home and all their savings (maybe 20 years worth) might never get any of that back. Their life as they knew it is over.

 

Guess they'll have to dust themselves off and start over by first taking responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the casinos. 

Is living on the streets and relying on free food taking responsibility? What is taking responsibility?

 

If that's what their actions have led to, then they need to deal with the consequences. I guess it's pretty cold-hearted of me, but I'm fed up with people making excuses for their actions. Yes, their lives might be ruined, but that's how the cookie crumbles. How's that Jurrasic Park quote go? "I don't blame people for their mistakes. But I do ask that they pay for them."

They were lied to and robbed. The gambling industry gets most of their profits from these people. Without these people the gambling industry would crumble.

Blaming the people who ruined their lives is clever enough, and false enough. But at least one thing is accomplished. The direction of resentment against the gambling industry is redirected.

They weren't lied to. It's gambling. Look it up in the dictionary. 

 

to expose to hazard; risk

to bet on an uncertain outcome

to take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit

to engage in reckless or hazardous behavior

to play a game of chance for stakes

 

It's not rocket science. People gamble knowing that they could lose. I'm done arguing with you as our views on this are diametrically opposed. 


Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 6910

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

5/13/13 1:25:46 AM#63

I cannot see it going legal because that would be a whole new business operation revolving around money and tax dollars.

First of all there is no positive way to factually monitor AGE over the internet.Secondly gambling is a disease of the mind,some can control it ,some can't,do we really need more fails in society,especially inside gaming?

Also it is a mechanic the government would not be able to monitor what so ever,they would have few mechanics in place to keep track of what is taxed and what is not.Also gambling laws change from state to state,the internet does not adhere to states,especially with use of Proxies.

You know how i could see this making it one day?Money in the pockets,same reason Casinos were finally allowed in my part of Canada after years of lobbying against it.Money is the root of all evil,corruption is everywhere,especially inside government.

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  Magiknight

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Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:29:56 AM#64
Originally posted by Wizardry

I cannot see it going legal because that would be a whole new business operation revolving around money and tax dollars.

First of all there is no positive way to factually monitor AGE over the internet.Secondly gambling is a disease of the mind,some can control it ,some can't,do we really need more fails in society,especially inside gaming?

Also it is a mechanic the government would not be able to monitor what so ever,they would have few mechanics in place to keep track of what is taxed and what is not.Also gambling laws change from state to state,the internet does not adhere to states,especially with use of Proxies.

You know how i could see this making it one day?Money in the pockets,same reason Casinos were finally allowed in my part of Canada after years of lobbying against it.Money is the root of all evil,corruption is everywhere,especially inside government.

Good points. But I have no doubt that we will have it very soon. You wont be able to play a video game without it asking you to make bets. Like you said, there's too much money in it for the corrupt government.

  Robokapp

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4778

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

5/13/13 1:30:54 AM#65
Originally posted by Magiknight
 
Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

Probability...OP did not study it.

 

If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

 

a) 0%

b) 12.5%

c) 40%

d) 50%

e) 77.5%

f)100%

g) other

  Magiknight

Novice Member

Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:31:40 AM#66
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Magiknight
 
Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

Probability...OP did not study it.

 

If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

 

a) 0%

b) 12.5%

c) 40%

d) 50%

e) 77.5%

f)100%

g) other

50%. Any other smart questions?

  Robokapp

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4778

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

5/13/13 1:34:48 AM#67
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Magiknight
 
Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

Probability...OP did not study it.

 

If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

 

a) 0%

b) 12.5%

c) 40%

d) 50%

e) 77.5%

f)100%

g) other

50%. Any other smart questions?

it's actually 40% but for reasons not relevant.

 

yes. one more.

 

if there are 37 numbers, one is green, 18 are red and 18 are black, and betting on red or on black and winning doubles your money, what are your chances of winning ?

  Dogblaster

Novice Member

Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 505

5/13/13 1:35:36 AM#68

Stop blaming others and start blaming yourself .. casinos didnt take your money, you gave them your money cause you are douche.

 

Its no ones fault but theirs ..

  Magiknight

Novice Member

Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:37:39 AM#69
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Magiknight
 
Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.

Probability...OP did not study it.

 

If a mother had two children, both girls, what are the odds of third child being a boy ?

 

a) 0%

b) 12.5%

c) 40%

d) 50%

e) 77.5%

f)100%

g) other

50%. Any other smart questions?

it's actually 40% but for reasons not relevant.

 

yes. one more.

 

if there are 37 numbers, one is green, 18 are red and 18 are black, and betting on red or on black and winning doubles your money, what are your chances of winning ?


Your chances of winning are 49%. How is this relevant at all to someone who would be playing a game for hours at a continuous disadvantage on a regular basis?

  Dogblaster

Novice Member

Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 505

5/13/13 1:38:02 AM#70
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Robokapp

you can't lose something unless you bet it.

 

if you want no part in gambling, you can choose not to participate.

 

gambling, particularly sport gambling has been there for hundreds of years outside the USA.

Everyone think their in control of their betting until they've lost everything. No one started gambling saying "I'm going to lose everything."

 

So you are for more than 8 Million Americans losing everything?

Ye? If they are so dumb to loose everything in casino, so be it. Only they are responsible for the actions. Not god, not me, not casinos.

  Magiknight

Novice Member

Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:39:53 AM#71
Originally posted by Dogblaster

Stop blaming others and start blaming yourself .. casinos didnt take your money, you gave them your money cause you are douche.

 

Its no ones fault but theirs ..

Casinos do take money. It's actually how they stay in business.

  Magiknight

Novice Member

Joined: 4/10/09
Posts: 746

 
OP  5/13/13 1:40:30 AM#72
Originally posted by Dogblaster
Originally posted by Magiknight
Originally posted by Robokapp

you can't lose something unless you bet it.

 

if you want no part in gambling, you can choose not to participate.

 

gambling, particularly sport gambling has been there for hundreds of years outside the USA.

Everyone think their in control of their betting until they've lost everything. No one started gambling saying "I'm going to lose everything."

 

So you are for more than 8 Million Americans losing everything?

Ye? If they are so dumb to loose everything in casino, so be it. Only they are responsible for the actions. Not god, not me, not casinos


The industry is just as responsible as them.

  Robokapp

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4778

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

5/13/13 1:41:53 AM#73
Originally posted by Magiknight
Once again, regular gambling is a GUARANTEED LOSS for you and win for the industry. It's not a game of chance then. All of the advertisements say the opposite.


Your chances of winning are 49%. How is this relevant at all to someone who would be playing a game for hours at a continuous disadvantage on a regular basis?

we're getting there.

 

we just went from GUARANTEED LOSS to 49% chance of winning. Making some progress.

 

now it's realistically 18/37 or 0.48648648648

 

just so you don't hurt yourself, this means the "house" has a chance to win of 0.51351351352.

 

So the house advantage is 0.02702702702 or 1/37.

 

so out of 100 rolls, 2.7 of them you'll lose due to house advantage. 100 rolls is maybe 2 hours ? That's not so bad...is it.

 

I know for a fact that somewhere in the game rules it states clearly that "in the case of a tie house wins" and so on. Soooo...how are you playing for hours if you don't know the rules of the game ? and if you do know the rules...how is it not your fault for your actions when you have been informed of all house advantages when you learned to play ?

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