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  ElRenmazuo

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5/09/13 7:30:48 PM#21
Originally posted by Alders

I want all of the classes from 11 as well as the class system.  Best system ever in my opinion.

I want updated combat that isn't as terrible as 11 or 14.

I want quest hubs to be eliminated in favor of dynamic events.

I want lots and lots of group content in the open world.

 

My biggest current issue is that 14 has finally caught up to MMO's from 3 years ago.  That's good for the franchise but bad for the MMO.

Second biggest issue is none of the current classes interest me one bit.  Where's my Dark Knight, Samurai, Ninja, and Thief?

They are going to add those later just like they did with final fantasy 11.  DK, sam, and ninja didnt come out til the first expansion.

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  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

5/09/13 7:36:57 PM#22
Originally posted by Wizardry

So for those that all they do is level,FFXIV is a much better product that looks a lot better.I'll tell you this much ,Square misses the boat bigtime on not implementing mounts and pets and housing.Those are the three big draws ,it would make them a ton more money.

I'll just address this.

They have said they are implementing all of those things.  

Thank you.

  Br3akingDawn

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5/09/13 7:43:39 PM#23
Originally posted by maxg314
So far I like everything they are doing except the main thing I want is a good community and where servers feel populated while leveling and not empty like most games are nowadays.

 

dungeons dungeons dungeons ruin everything. everyone is in dungeons and the open world is all empty. Sure we could play new classes and need to lvl some in the open world but then once we hit dungeon mininum, everyone goes into dungeons dungeons dungeons. Hopefully ARR implements some good open world grinding because if everyones sticking to dungeons, every zone is gonna feel dead. (And what I want in ARR will never happen, society has changed too much)

  Prepared

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5/09/13 8:12:12 PM#24

I want what's coming to me...  The world Chico and everything in it!

 

  ElRenmazuo

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5/10/13 12:28:33 PM#25
Originally posted by Wizardry

Well i would be extremely happy with a FFXI but tweaked.Tha tgame already did everything the way i liked except drops and crafting could be tweaked better>Also the grouped meachincs and combos coudl be tweaked ,especially the magic burst,so that groups actually want to do it.

I loved the idea with Tactical points that don't diminish until used,however again it could have used tweaks for 100/200/300 tp.

I liked the class designs but again ,i want more depth.

I would like jumping as the ydid add but only if useful.Also water zones would be nice.Housing with plots and gardfening outside as i hear they are going to implement eventually.

I heard they were going the Wowesque route and adding in hand holding ,quest markers.Tha treally turns me off,i want no hand holding at all,teh way FFXI was done.

I loved the Chocobo idea but i want more,yet Square took their time just getting the chocobo,so it was really obvious they cut a lot of corners.

I do not like the armoury system,you are what you wear,FFXI did it way better.

I would like to own and operae our own flying ship,i mean it has been a staple in the FF franchise for quite  awhile,about time to make it reality.

Aside from what i want,this game gives exactly what everyone is doing in otehr games except the premise to pvp only better and the game looks a heck of a lot better.

So for those that all they do is level,FFXIV is a much better product that looks a lot better.I'll tell you this much ,Square misses the boat bigtime on not implementing mounts and pets and housing.Those are the three big draws ,it would make them a ton more money.

Chocobos are mounts and you can raise them like pets and armor them too.  Summoner class is pretty much a pet class. And you can get Magitek Armor mounts too.  And I think they have housing like they did in final fantasy 11.

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  Jockan

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5/10/13 8:10:08 PM#26
I don't care about innovation. I also just want a real open seemless world and not a zone with mobs just standing on side the roads. Back in my early days of Lineage 2 you could get a quest that tells you to go take care of the Wood Bears to the north that are attacking people. You would have to really explore the north to find the mobs he was talking about. If you traveled the roads you rarely saw any mobs. You had to get off the roads and actually explore to find what you was looking for. I really miss this and social interaction where people just hung out and talked about the game and their adventures.

  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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OP  5/10/13 9:08:57 PM#27
Originally posted by VastoHorde
I don't care about innovation. I also just want a real open seemless world and not a zone with mobs just standing on side the roads. Back in my early days of Lineage 2 you could get a quest that tells you to go take care of the Wood Bears to the north that are attacking people. You would have to really explore the north to find the mobs he was talking about. If you traveled the roads you rarely saw any mobs. You had to get off the roads and actually explore to find what you was looking for. I really miss this and social interaction where people just hung out and talked about the game and their adventures.

I agree but todays MMO players are lazy , and want things NOW! and do not want to work for it . So as you have seen the past 5 years MMOs are getting easy and really watered down from the ones 10 years ago .

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  toddze

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I am not a hater, I call it like I see it.

5/11/13 6:41:10 AM#28
Originally posted by Vunak23
I want FFXI-2

I want a new game with FFXI style of play, and PVE approach. I think thats what most people who say they want an FFXI-2 also want.

Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI

  Antiquated

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5/11/13 9:02:23 AM#29
Generally, something we've already had.
  MMOPapa

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There's a reason you can't spell Deadline without the word 'dead'.

5/11/13 10:32:08 AM#30
I have and always will say that FFXIV:ARR has the greatest (to date, that I've experienced) Crafting system and second greatest Gathering system (only to be outdone by Firefall). That alone is enough innovation for me considering I have NEVER, in my seventy plus games of experience, enjoyed a crafting system... not once.

  Raxeon

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5/11/13 10:35:14 AM#31

So for those that all they do is level,FFXIV is a much better product that looks a lot better.I'll tell you this much ,Square misses the boat bigtime on not implementing mounts and pets and housing.Those are the three big draws ,it would make them a ton more money.

they are putting them in O_O hell i think phase 3 or 4 we might get to test them the housing at least

  MMOPapa

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There's a reason you can't spell Deadline without the word 'dead'.

5/11/13 3:15:08 PM#32
Originally posted by Wizardry

So for those that all they do is level,FFXIV is a much better product that looks a lot better.I'll tell you this much ,Square misses the boat bigtime on not implementing mounts and pets and housing.Those are the three big draws ,it would make them a ton more money.

Completely disagree with you... doesn't make you wrong, that's your view. This is mine... I never once had the urge to level. All I did, the entire time... was craft and gather. I loved their crafting and gathering systems so much that I didn't even want to experience the rest of the game... I thought I was wasting my time the one time I went to run Tam-Tara. And when I was done? I still felt that way. I was having withdraws from crafting. And the funniest part about it?

 

I have NEVER liked crafting and I have played over seventy online games.

  danwest58

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5/11/13 3:33:31 PM#33
This is so true that MMOs try to innovate just for the sake of innovating.  The truth is real good innovation is something like EQNEXT will be.  Taking old and new gaming technologies, elements and ideas and putting them together to try to make a new game thats fun.  Not a pile of crap just to try to say we innovated.  AKA SWG to SWTOR.   
  bcbully

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5/11/13 3:35:28 PM#34

Well I guess Jim doesn't mind doing the same thing over and over year after year. 

 

I do. To each his own I guess.

  FleshMask

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5/11/13 3:54:58 PM#35
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya

I see a lot of people say things like there is no innovation in this game and because of it i will not play . For the people who say this and for the critics out there and or blog writer's out there watch this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7005-Innovation-Gamings-Snake-Oil

I think a lot of people really need to rethink there stand on this and other games in general 

There is a difference between innovation and straight out ignoring basics.

Trust me, auction-houses, jumping in a game, and interface menus ARE NOT innovation.

THEY ARE THE BASICS

and FFXIV ignores that, all the while you got apologists like OP over here thinking they actually got a point, when they are just making excuses trying to have us drink that filthy koolaid from several years back.

  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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OP  5/11/13 4:35:28 PM#36
Originally posted by FleshMask
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya

I see a lot of people say things like there is no innovation in this game and because of it i will not play . For the people who say this and for the critics out there and or blog writer's out there watch this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7005-Innovation-Gamings-Snake-Oil

I think a lot of people really need to rethink there stand on this and other games in general 

There is a difference between innovation and straight out ignoring basics.

Trust me, auction-houses, jumping in a game, and interface menus ARE NOT innovation.

THEY ARE THE BASICS

and FFXIV ignores that, all the while you got apologists like OP over here thinking they actually got a point, when they are just making excuses trying to have us drink that filthy koolaid from several years back.

FFXIV:ARR has jumping , has a Auction House , and a nice UI . Why comment on the game if you do not even know about the game . just saying .  There is a huge section called all your FFXIV:ARR info can be found here . And has everything you need to know about the game. I suggest you do some reading and watching before talking out of your butt. Maybe you should put down the koolaid your drinking and learn some facts on the game . The OP is about how critics and the like or gamers who do not know about this game say really stupid things like "I wont play this , It is not innovating " Or The game has nothing new we have all seen this before so I will not play " That is the problem . Then you get people who put out a "preview" like this one http://www.gamespot.com/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/previews/changes-that-seem-all-too-familiar-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-6407453/ This guy said he tested the game . read the comments beta testers my comments are there also have shot this "preview" down because the guy lied about the whole experience. But people will take his false info and think it to be fact when it is not even close .  Prove me wrong

 

The biggest gripe we had was this quote " Our play session during the beta weekend was filled with similarly-leveled pugilists and spellcasters joining in unison as we beat down the aforementioned Opo-opos and Ixali birdmen until we had fulfilled the required amount of mob deaths. "

How the hell did he test as a Pug ? It was not in phase 2 ? Unless he is lying .  But he said he did . There is a lot of misinformation out there if you do not know go read and educate yourself on this game . Or wait when NDA is lifted and everyone can see the game . Trust me this will be he game of the year MMO wise . I know a lot think tESO or Neverwinter but im going to say this those games are F2P and like every F2P game if you enjoy  lag fest and a buggy game by all means play . If you enjoy spending over 200$ a year to get that piece of gear you will not use 2 weeks later by all means play that game . IF you want a lag free , bug free well maintained game that will cost you 150$ a year and you can get anything you want on a level playing field with everyone else then this is the game for you. ( My opinion)

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  reeereee

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5/11/13 5:05:20 PM#37
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
Originally posted by FleshMask
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya

I see a lot of people say things like there is no innovation in this game and because of it i will not play . For the people who say this and for the critics out there and or blog writer's out there watch this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7005-Innovation-Gamings-Snake-Oil

I think a lot of people really need to rethink there stand on this and other games in general 

There is a difference between innovation and straight out ignoring basics.

Trust me, auction-houses, jumping in a game, and interface menus ARE NOT innovation.

THEY ARE THE BASICS

and FFXIV ignores that, all the while you got apologists like OP over here thinking they actually got a point, when they are just making excuses trying to have us drink that filthy koolaid from several years back.

FFXIV:ARR has jumping , has a Auction House , and a nice UI . Why comment on the game if you do not even know about the game . just saying .  There is a huge section called all your FFXIV:ARR info can be found here . And has everything you need to know about the game. I suggest you do some reading and watching before talking out of your butt. Maybe you should put down the koolaid your drinking and learn some facts on the game . The OP is about how critics and the like or gamers who do not know about this game say really stupid things like "I wont play this , It is not innovating " Or The game has nothing new we have all seen this before so I will not play " That is the problem . Then you get people who put out a "preview" like this one http://www.gamespot.com/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/previews/changes-that-seem-all-too-familiar-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-6407453/ This guy said he tested the game . read the comments beta testers my comments are there also have shot this "preview" down because the guy lied about the whole experience. But people will take his false info and think it to be fact when it is not even close .  Prove me wrong

That's interesting, so people who are tired of playing the same type of game over, and over, and over again are "stupid"

 

To me this game felt shockingly similar to WoW at lower levels, even more similar to WoW than other games like Rift and SWTOR that were labeled WoW clones.  This is a feeling though, perhaps you saw something exciting there.  I did not.  Trying to argue that people who want a new experience are "stupid" is a bit well... humorous to me.

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5/11/13 5:14:53 PM#38

I don't want innovation as much as I want good gameplay. FF14 just lacks both areas. I have no problem at all with an older style combat taking away action for more strategy but the game lacks that. Classes just feel like empty shells, nothing like even FF11 the game that came before hand. Rather then build depth, it seems to be trying to build itself more casually in mind and that is harming the game. For FF11, it had flaws but the classes/class system was what really carried the game, to the point I feel it was a huge part that got World of Magic, one of the few games I'd actually not slap someone in the face for calling it a 'wow clone', to take the class system and use it in their game. 

 

Rift itself did mix in new elements but honestly its core concept was just the talent tree system from the past, it just expanded on it and made it interesting. Rather then try to change the formula, it just did its own adjustments which simply sparked flavor more then making things different. It didn't need to push the envelope and create a new game, it just did it well.

 

FF14 just doesn't do much of anything. It just feels so... generic? I just don't feel any attachment to a character. There isn't any real good classes that make it stick out. The story itself is alright but nothing to write home about. It just doesn't do anything... you need something to build interest and a catagory to raise a game up and make it stand out for having be good, and the game just offers absolutely nothing. 

 

It NEEDS a good class system that acts as a staple for final fantasy.

It NEEDS a good combat system, while not needing action it needs some depth to make things interesting to keep people entertained seeing how that is what you will spend most of your time with.

 

Address those two issues and it could feel more worthy of time, but it just doesn't have anything right now that makes me really interested in a game. If I want to play an online game around Final Fantasy, I'll go play FF11. Sure, its not the best system and its dated, but the classes really carry the game and the combat holds enough depth to make it interesting.

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5/11/13 5:36:43 PM#39
Originally posted by MMOPapa

I have NEVER liked crafting and I have played over seventy online games.

You keep mentioning that...but all you're saying really is "my maximum average evaluation time of every title is just over 10 weeks".

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OP  5/11/13 7:47:14 PM#40
Originally posted by reeereee
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
Originally posted by FleshMask
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya

I see a lot of people say things like there is no innovation in this game and because of it i will not play . For the people who say this and for the critics out there and or blog writer's out there watch this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7005-Innovation-Gamings-Snake-Oil

I think a lot of people really need to rethink there stand on this and other games in general 

There is a difference between innovation and straight out ignoring basics.

Trust me, auction-houses, jumping in a game, and interface menus ARE NOT innovation.

THEY ARE THE BASICS

and FFXIV ignores that, all the while you got apologists like OP over here thinking they actually got a point, when they are just making excuses trying to have us drink that filthy koolaid from several years back.

FFXIV:ARR has jumping , has a Auction House , and a nice UI . Why comment on the game if you do not even know about the game . just saying .  There is a huge section called all your FFXIV:ARR info can be found here . And has everything you need to know about the game. I suggest you do some reading and watching before talking out of your butt. Maybe you should put down the koolaid your drinking and learn some facts on the game . The OP is about how critics and the like or gamers who do not know about this game say really stupid things like "I wont play this , It is not innovating " Or The game has nothing new we have all seen this before so I will not play " That is the problem . Then you get people who put out a "preview" like this one http://www.gamespot.com/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/previews/changes-that-seem-all-too-familiar-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-6407453/ This guy said he tested the game . read the comments beta testers my comments are there also have shot this "preview" down because the guy lied about the whole experience. But people will take his false info and think it to be fact when it is not even close .  Prove me wrong

That's interesting, so people who are tired of playing the same type of game over, and over, and over again are "stupid"

 

To me this game felt shockingly similar to WoW at lower levels, even more similar to WoW than other games like Rift and SWTOR that were labeled WoW clones.  This is a feeling though, perhaps you saw something exciting there.  I did not.  Trying to argue that people who want a new experience are "stupid" is a bit well... humorous to me.

Ok people wanted change and innovation here comes TERA with its political system and fresh new combat .... That game is doing so well that when I logged in yesterday the servers channel for 5 hours never went above low . GW2 people were again all on the combat and wow npcs talk....so...much..you want to choke them . That game because a disappointment . RIFT , SWTOR need I say more .FFXIV V1 was different so much so people hated it so hey remade it.  The fact that over the last 5 year MMOs have SUCKED is because of people saying its the same old same old then they make something new and people are like sweet this is so great then 5 months latter  meh? l rather play WoW or FFXI .....Going back to the same od same old . That is what is stupid

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