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  User Deleted
5/02/13 10:00:41 AM#41
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Uzik

DFUW is a PvP conquest game.

That being said, PvE, harvesting and crafting are the gears that make everything work.

Also, the PvE may not have the "depth" of a WoW raid, but it is far more engaging than a simple tab target game where you can basically PvE while asleep.  After playing DF all tab target games just seem like complete snore fests.  I mean, f your idea of PvE consists of hitting tab, then pressing 1,2,3,4,5 over and over again, why even bother?  Just get a macro to do that.

 

Furthermore, DFUW may not have the polycounts and smooth animations of other MMOs, but it has a very unique artistic style, varied terrain that can shape a battle, lighting and day/night cycles that actually impact combat, and a meticulously crafted INTERESTING world.

 

 

For all its faults there is NO other game out there like DFUW.  Sorry.

The biggest thing for me about the PVE is the risk of being jumped.  You crank up your sound and crane your ears trying to pick up on sounds that shouldn't be there.  Scanning around after every mob kill.  This simple thing elevates Darkfall over any game that does not offer a FFA full loot experience.  For me it makes the game worth playing.

The other night, I was solo'ing some kobalds to complete a feat.  My ears perk up, thinking I might have heard a mount.  I stop everything, nope, nothing.  I kill a few more mobs.  Was that a flutter of movement in the corner of my screen?  I start creeping around the camp, but don't hear any running.  Am I being stalked?  I enter the camp and enter into one of the huts, to be met with a sword in the face.  I was totally slaughtered.  Yes, I got my shit kicked in but I would not trade the moment of wondering if I'm being stalked for any other game experience.   Hell, that same night I was at a different spawn and was snuck up again by a skirmisher and made the bastard run away because I put up a good fight (Im a primalist).  He messaged me back saying, good job.

I say, good job AV.

To me that is what PVP should be about... and what is sorely lacking in most games that claim to offer PVP.  PVP isn't a sport that needs rankings/ratings... it's simply about besting your opponent, where ever and when ever.  PVP is amano amano... not 6v1.

  User Deleted
5/02/13 10:01:16 AM#42

A good pvper in our clan with 40k pp lost a fight to a 15k pp guy tonight. It had to do with thinking and not making mistakes. The 15k guy used the environment and got the 40k in a position where he could use an ability to knock him over an edge for a steep drop. He then knocked him down with a couple of high damage bow shots. Apparently, 15k made some smart choices with his pp investments.

 

It's good when that can happen in a pvp game.

  xzyax

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5/02/13 10:01:32 AM#43
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

Not being a troll or trying to start a fight, but can you show the evidence that UW is becoming a success? I only ask because I've seen no numbers to indicate if it is, or if it's failing, or anything. I don't know that it is becoming anything atm but I'd be interested to see how well it's doing, if it really is.

Population is high.  What more do you need in terms of success?

Numbers. No offence but saying the pop is high is misleading. Is it shards or a single server? Is that pop high because it says so when you log in?

I'm more interested in how many units have been sold. Hard evidence rather than supposition.

As I said please don't take this as a troll, I'm genuinely interested. I've looked but I've found no numbers to base any conclusion on.

There is no instances in Darkfall and the global population is on two servers (EU & NA).  So people are actually out in the game world, not hiding in an instance.  I just made my way back to the mainland and went to the human starter area and there were hundreds of people running around. 

These are some clan numbers from the NA server:

April 17: 1606
April 18: 2479 + 54%
April 19: 2900 + 16%
April 20: 3226 + 11%
April 21: 3890 + 20%
April 22: 4121 + 6%
april 23: 4347 + 5.5%
april 24: 4480 + 3%
april 25: 4648 + 4%
april 26: 5017 + 8%
april 27: 5147 + 2.5%
april 28: 5408 + 5%
april 29: 5611 + 3.8%
april 30: 5754 + 2.5%
Largest Clan: Imperium 386 members
 

It is unknown how many unclanned people there are. 

Just as a point of reference Badaboom I found the old thread that I started back for DF1.  I kept weekly counts for both servers for awhile.  I stopped when I didn't think the numbers were reliable anymore.  Anyway... here is a link to that thread and you can look for yourself at the numbers.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/259666/page/1

 

Not sure of the exact high-points, but from memory the EU server had well over 12k and NA server had well over 9k.

So, DF:UW is a ways off of those marks.  

Your numbers have been from 9 months into launch. Half of population was already gone.

Yeah, it was a continuation of the project that rhinok started.  Not sure if his started at the very beginning or not.

If I remember the context correctly from that time it was mainly to try and quell the back and forth if the amount of players were increasing or decreasing after some sort of patch or "expansion".  There were some fairly heated debates from both sides as to the popularity of DarkFall and that thread was an attempt to bring in some sort of baseline to see which way the population was trending.

Unfortunately for me anyway, I disagreed with the way the numbers were being "manipulated" from the two sites where I gathered the numbers and lost interest in continuing the endeavor.  

 

  DukeDu

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5/03/13 7:29:25 PM#44

Darkfall is on position #76 on Steam top selling games, one above "Star Wars the Clone Wars" game. I wouldn't call that a success. LOL. Doubt? Go see it for yourself.

  gamekid2k

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5/10/13 12:12:15 AM#45
Any more update on the stats?  I am seeing too  many new players everyday in safe zone.

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

  redcapp

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5/10/13 12:20:29 AM#46

I hope it is a success so that it can continue to grow and evolve.

 

I've got an eye on it, but have yet to decide if the game/company deserves my money.  Time will tell.

  gamekid2k

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5/10/13 12:31:03 AM#47
Originally posted by redcapp

I hope it is a success so that it can continue to grow and evolve.

 

I've got an eye on it, but have yet to decide if the game/company deserves my money.  Time will tell.

 

AV is a small company that is struggling to keep up with today's MMO generation.  

 

However what are the alternative?  Blizzard? NCsoft? EA? Zenimax?  None of these companies are willing to take any risk and try something very different.  AV done it and hopefully the niche population will stick with them and support them.  

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

  redcapp

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5/10/13 12:32:02 AM#48
Originally posted by DukeDu

Darkfall is on position #76 on Steam top selling games, one above "Star Wars the Clone Wars" game. I wouldn't call that a success. LOL. Doubt? Go see it for yourself.

Well, it's above Tomb Raider on steam at least.  Then, they're both under the WarZ.  Heh. 

  redcapp

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5/10/13 12:33:01 AM#49
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Originally posted by redcapp

I hope it is a success so that it can continue to grow and evolve.

 

I've got an eye on it, but have yet to decide if the game/company deserves my money.  Time will tell.

 

AV is a small company that is struggling to keep up with today's MMO generation.  

 

However what are the alternative?  Blizzard? NCsoft? EA? Zenimax?  None of these companies are willing to take any risk and try something very different.  AV done it and hopefully the niche population will stick with them and support them.  

The alternative is to wait.  Not like I absolutely must play an MMO throughout every stage of my life. 

  redrain84

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5/10/13 3:25:55 AM#50
Originally posted by redcapp
Originally posted by DukeDu

Darkfall is on position #76 on Steam top selling games, one above "Star Wars the Clone Wars" game. I wouldn't call that a success. LOL. Doubt? Go see it for yourself.

Well, it's above Tomb Raider on steam at least.  Then, they're both under the WarZ.  Heh. 

 Darkfall is #76 on steam top selling game.  Who care's? You act like steam has been  ordained by god to rank all games. It just one website's opinion and it isn't to be taken seriously.

  itchmon

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5/10/13 5:33:16 AM#51
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by -Zeno-

One word: Progression

You can see your progression and see others progression (prowess points).  In DF1.0 you could not see progress.  All you saw in DF1.0 was dirt in your face as you lay on the ground about to be ganked and no way to know if they were better or worse than you skill wise.

As someone with 15k prowess that regularly kills players with 30k or more porwess.  The new game is a godsend!

So what I can draw from this is that Progression (prowess points) doesn't really matter at the end of the day, so you meant to say progression of your character isn't really that important, and the game provides you a way to prove that to each other.

Or put more simply, player skill is a much bigger deciding factor in a fight rather than actual progression of your character.

 

kyleran think of it like SP in eve.  someone can have 10M SP and have no fighting skills because they put it all into industry to be able to mine efficiently.  or someone can be flying around in a raven navy issue with 10m SP doing level 4 missions, because they filled up their fitting and shield skills, etc.

 

prowess is like eve SP that (a) dont accululate on their own and (b) you allocate to whatever skill you please rather than choosing the skill as you allocate.

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  emota

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5/10/13 10:25:52 AM#52
Its great to see so many new folks joining the game on a daily basis.
  Deerhunter71

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5/10/13 10:39:34 AM#53
Go take a read on the steam forums if you think it is doing so great....  Hell all the crashes and rollbacks are causing them to lose customers already and that is on their own forums - not even all the steam posts...
  gamerman98

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5/10/13 10:44:28 AM#54


Originally posted by redrain84

Originally posted by redcapp

Originally posted by DukeDu Darkfall is on position #76 on Steam top selling games, one above "Star Wars the Clone Wars" game. I wouldn't call that a success. LOL. Doubt? Go see it for yourself.
Well, it's above Tomb Raider on steam at least.  Then, they're both under the WarZ.  Heh. 
 Darkfall is #76 on steam top selling game.  Who care's? You act like steam has been  ordained by god to rank all games. It just one website's opinion and it isn't to be taken seriously.

Rank or no rank, reality speaks for itself, this game is FAR from a success, but im sure in the "indie hardcore PVP sandox" genre 5k subs is pretty huge LOL

  gamekid2k

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5/10/13 4:32:49 PM#55
Game has stabilized greatly after the latest patch.   

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

  wyrdaskolir

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5/10/13 4:39:52 PM#56
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Go take a read on the steam forums if you think it is doing so great....  Hell all the crashes and rollbacks are causing them to lose customers already and that is on their own forums - not even all the steam posts...

Bro you sure are dedicated to spreading hate on this game. You even have a signature to aid in your agenda! Why not spend your time on more productive things? Instead of hating on a game you don't want to play?

  Four0Six

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5/10/13 4:46:50 PM#57
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Game has stabilized greatly after the latest patch.   

Yes it has. I got booted today, and it was MY isp, ha.

I am going to give it a couple weeks yet, but if it stays stable, I will activate my sub again.

Most fun I have had in a MMO in years.

  Cecropia

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5/10/13 4:47:49 PM#58
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Go take a read on the steam forums if you think it is doing so great....  Hell all the crashes and rollbacks are causing them to lose customers already and that is on their own forums - not even all the steam posts...

Bro you sure are dedicated to spreading hate on this game. You even have a signature to aid in your agenda! Why not spend your time on more productive things? Instead of hating on a game you don't want to play?

I think hating on the game is the game he's playing.

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  -Zeno-

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OP  5/10/13 6:20:04 PM#59
Originally posted by MikeJezZ

I bought it but got tired of it real quick...

 

The animations, the UI and the lack of tutorial nailed it for me.

The start of the game is a tutorial then they have feats that help you learn the game right in front of your face and the UI is years ahead of DF1.0.  I don't understand... ohh wait.  I do...

The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

  gamekid2k

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5/14/13 10:12:11 AM#60
still waiting for an update. I don't know how OP got the number from.

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

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