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  Karelia

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5/08/13 3:56:35 PM#21
8.000.000 hmmm i guess they may have to cut food...after 10 years, this number is beyond their wildest dreams and they will not produce any new mmo game (e.g. titan) before wow drops at least to 1-2m subs. so 8m subs after 10 years, unfortunately for who ever waits a new mmo from blizz, is still a huge number
  Dreamo84

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5/08/13 3:57:43 PM#22
Obviously this means Neverwinter is the WoW killer.

  ipeka

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5/08/13 4:00:29 PM#23
tic toc tic toc .. time's catching up blizzzaardd, might' do them good to start picking that 'titan' blueprint u left in the dust
  strangiato2112

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5/08/13 4:01:49 PM#24
Originally posted by Manolios
8.000.000 hmmm i guess they may have to cut food...after 10 years, this number is beyond their wildest dreams and they will not produce any new mmo game (e.g. titan) before wow drops at least to 1-2m subs. so 8m subs after 10 years, unfortunately for who ever waits a new mmo from blizz, is still a huge number

Of course they will produce a new MMO.  It just wont be a WoW clone.  Go after a different player base.

  Shadowguy64

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5/08/13 4:01:57 PM#25
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Obviously this means Neverwinter is the WoW killer.

 

Actually....it was the CU Kickstarter campaign...

  azzamasin

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5/08/13 4:04:02 PM#26
Of the 8 million I would wager only about 2-3 million are US and EU but of course we'll never know.  Buddy of mine I work with says his server is a ghost town.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Epicent

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5/08/13 4:04:07 PM#27
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Obviously this means Neverwinter is the WoW killer.

lmao

  Rettie

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5/08/13 4:05:08 PM#28
Considering the games age, this is a good number of subscribers. :)
  strangiato2112

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5/08/13 4:07:42 PM#29

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2013/may/slide01.jpg

 

wonder if the last item in the blizzard box and first item in investment box are related?

  jesteralways

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5/08/13 4:08:07 PM#30
Originally posted by strangiato2112
Originally posted by fariah033
I was on one of the worst servers sooo dead !!! After 5 years on the same server it was hard to transfer so I just quit :)

Yeah, i think this is hurting them.  80% of the servers are quite healthy, but that 20% (and some of those PvP servers have never seen medium pop in their 7 year existence) is starting to give up.  theyve talked and talked about trying to fix it, and CRZ was a decent idea on paper I guess, but why dont they just merge?  Makes no sense.

 

they tried to merge but moronic oafs on those servers refused merger as it will "hurt their server pride". people like them really pisses me off.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Sulaa

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5/08/13 4:12:21 PM#31
Originally posted by strangiato2112
Originally posted by Sulaa
Originally posted by strangiato2112
kind of staggering that they have over 1 billion in deferred revenue.  Last year was 1.6 billion, but that was due Im sure to the d3 bundle.  those have all expired by now and its still huge.

People leave the game => more servers get dead => Blizzard never do any merges => people pay for transfers = whenever it's rising or falling sub wise it's generating revenue.

deferred revenue has nothing to do with transfers, that goes into cash.  deferred revenue is subscription time that hasnt been used up.  Most likely current months sub revenue + multi month subs.  Im not one of their accouttants so I don't really know for sure the complete makeup of that account, but by definition instant account transfers can't be deferred revenue.

Yeah, sorry I ve read it wrong. You're right

  fariah033

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5/08/13 4:12:45 PM#32
I have 4 level 90s and 3 85s yes I quit instead of paying that much to transfer all my toons. Im bored with warcraft and so bored without it lol. I cant win!!
  Arcona

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5/08/13 4:13:58 PM#33
Why you need sever merge? Because of the server swarm it has never been easier to do dungeon runs, even at low level it takes 5-10 min queue
  Shadowguy64

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5/08/13 4:14:20 PM#34
Oh and the sub is 8.3 million, not 8 million. Sure it's splitting hairs, but I can think of MANY MMOs who would LOVE to have that 300,000 subscriber split hair...
  Ramonski7

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5/08/13 4:15:15 PM#35
Not surprising at all. Especially with such stiff competition in the East. Kinda helps also when the Chinese government is actively trying to phase out western influence. Google, Microsoft, Apple you name it. They'd rather have their own home-based gaming company they can regulate and leech off of than bow to any outsiders who are popular with such a huge internal market. Keep an eye on Chinese developers in the future. Their government didn't get to the point of being a economic superpower by ignoring emerging markets.


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  Karelia

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5/08/13 4:17:43 PM#36
Originally posted by azzamasin
Of the 8 million I would wager only about 2-3 million are US and EU but of course we'll never know.  Buddy of mine I work with says his server is a ghost town.

 

of the 8.3 million i would say that about 5-6 are US and EU and my server (Burning Legion - EU) is almost all day high.

so you can see every1 can see it as he wants. the only real thing is that with 8.3m subs even after 10 years, they have 15 times more subs than the second one (0.5m swtor or eve).

don't fool yourselves (i know this is not a good thing because i m waiting something new from blizzard) 8.3m subs after 10 years unfortunately are way too many

  Methos12

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5/08/13 4:22:20 PM#37
Originally posted by Manolios
Originally posted by azzamasin
Of the 8 million I would wager only about 2-3 million are US and EU but of course we'll never know.  Buddy of mine I work with says his server is a ghost town.

 

of the 8.3 million i would say that about 5-6 are US and EU and my server (Burning Legion - EU) is almost all day high.

so you can see every1 can see it as he wants. the only real thing is that with 8.3m subs even after 10 years, they have 15 times more subs than the second one (0.5m swtor or eve).

don't fool yourselves and i know this is not a good thing because i m waiting something new from blizzard, 8.3m subs after 10 years unfortunately are way too many

Calling them all subs is a misnomer in the first place considering Chinese players don't pay a monthly subscription at all, for example. There is no reliable $15 a month from 8 million subscribers there.

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  akiira69

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5/08/13 4:22:44 PM#38
Originally posted by itchmon
Here comes titan....

I hope it doesn't get too rushed, I wonder if bliz will do what they've never done and release something early because of financial pressure.

Project Titan is a myth started by players using Screenshots from Tabula Rasa. Blizzard has already stated what their next project is and that is Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft. So please ditch any idea you had of Project Titan being the next project.

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  Nadia

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5/08/13 4:23:10 PM#39
Originally posted by Manolios

of the 8.3 million i would say that about 5-6 are US and EU and my server (Burning Legion - EU) is almost all day high.

5 years ago, when WOW had better numbers of 10 million

the US/EU portion was 4.5m

http://wow.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/world-of-warcraft-hits-10-million-subscribers/

Asia is the biggest market at the moment, with more than 5.5 million players, as compared to North America's 2.5 million and 2 million subscribers in Europe.

 

doubt out of 8.3m WOW  has 5-6m for US/EU

  strangiato2112

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5/08/13 4:23:22 PM#40
Originally posted by Manolios
Originally posted by azzamasin
Of the 8 million I would wager only about 2-3 million are US and EU but of course we'll never know.  Buddy of mine I work with says his server is a ghost town.

 

of the 8.3 million i would say that about 5-6 are US and EU and my server (Burning Legion - EU) is almost all day high.

so you can see every1 can see it as he wants. the only real thing is that with 8.3m subs even after 10 years, they have 15 times more subs than the second one (0.5m swtor or eve).

don't fool yourselves and i know this is not a good thing because i m waiting something new from blizzard, 8.3m subs after 10 years unfortunately are way too many

I thought it was generally accepted that somewhere around 5 mill was peak US/EU.  i think its unlikely its fallen under 3, there are just too many active servers.

 

I wonder how much of the western sub drop is due to expiration of the D3 packages.  Basically they arent only getting this quarters cancelations, but people that were done the last two quarters but were locked in.  

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