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  ShakyMo

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5/08/13 1:22:09 PM#21
One of these
EQ
Wow
Eq2
Gw1 (if you have all 4 boxes)
Daoc (if you roll 3 characters)

Coh / cov had quite a lot too.

But really the games that don't have endgame at all like eve and uo have the most content.
  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 1:27:10 PM#22
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

Guild Wars 1, not 2.

See my other post after that, even GW1 doesn't win against EQ2, on top of that i think RIFT is right up there as well.

 

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  WelshyJT

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5/08/13 1:29:09 PM#23

Age of conan. for sure.

People saying wow are retarded, content that gets trivialised every 2 years, does not count as endgame

  BrucyBonus

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5/08/13 1:32:14 PM#24
Originally posted by WelshyJT

Age of conan. for sure.

People saying wow are retarded, content that gets trivialised every 2 years, does not count as endgame

But if you have played it since 2005 you have experienced a hell of a lot of end-game content.  Ultimately it proved pointless when the next expansion was released, but these are bloody computer games, who gives a crap if your gear goes out of fashion in a couple of years.  

  Deznts

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5/08/13 1:33:40 PM#25

Age of Conan, hands down.

Solo content, 6-mans and 24-man raids.

  nariusseldon

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5/08/13 1:34:49 PM#26
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Nari
But them paragon levels and what have you.

It's just the same content on a harder difficulty

It's not new content, its the same content on a higher difficulty.

And yeah, d3, tl2 and poe are not mmos.

You might as well call left 4 dead or borderlands a mmo in that case.

Yeah .. Borderlands are also close enough for me.

Same content on a harder difficulty? isn't that what hard mode raids are? heroic dungeons? At least random dungeons means that the content is different.

Is running the same raid/dungeon 1000 times .. more, or less content than running a random one 1000 tiems?

 

  Volkon

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OP  5/08/13 1:37:58 PM#27
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Nadia

if the op is including downscaling,

I agree,  EQ2 qualifies for most content w its mentoring system

Even without down scaling EQ2 wins.

Forgive me for this, but I've never played EQ2. What types of content are there?

Oderint, dum metuant.

  aSynchro

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5/08/13 1:45:13 PM#28

WoW endgame is currently :

_ 1 raid + 3 semi retro (already nerfed)

_ 8 dungeons

_ PvP

_ A few others thingy like some world boss, dailies, scenarios etc.

 

That's it.

Everything else is old content that can be facerolled.

  nariusseldon

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5/08/13 1:50:23 PM#29
Originally posted by aSynchro

WoW endgame is currently :

_ 4 raids

_ 8 dungeons

_ PvP

_ A few others thingy like some world boss, dailies, 11 scenarios etc.

 

That's it.

Everything else is old content that can be facerolled.

So it is more or less than a game like Diablo 3, which has 205 zones (http://d3db.com/zone) and some are random?

  Redcor

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5/08/13 1:53:46 PM#30
Originally posted by Deznts

Age of Conan, hands down.

Solo content, 6-mans and 24-man raids.

yup

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  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 1:58:30 PM#31
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Nadia

if the op is including downscaling,

I agree,  EQ2 qualifies for most content w its mentoring system

Even without down scaling EQ2 wins.

Forgive me for this, but I've never played EQ2. What types of content are there?

This should give you some idea http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/EverQuest_2_Wiki:Main_Page

The game has a vast amount of max-level content, it's mind boggling.

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  Axehilt

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5/08/13 2:05:10 PM#32
Originally posted by WelshyJT

Age of conan. for sure.

People saying wow are retarded, content that gets trivialised every 2 years, does not count as endgame

The content being trivialized is also why it's so much higher quality than the rest of the industry -- because they can control more closely for gear, and offer satisfying challenges which reward skillful play.

The other poster may be right that other games have more max-level content than WOW.  But do they have quality?  Watching the AOC raids and searching for their abilities in wikis, they seem to have rather childish, uninteresting mechanics compared with a good WOW boss.

Quality vs. Quantity.  Some players just want a big list of million-health bosses they can say they've killed.  Others want to play through interesting challenges.

  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 2:06:33 PM#33
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by WelshyJT

Age of conan. for sure.

People saying wow are retarded, content that gets trivialised every 2 years, does not count as endgame

The content being trivialized is also why it's so much higher quality than the rest of the industry -- because they can control more closely for gear, and offer satisfying challenges which reward skillful play.

The other poster may be right that other games have more max-level content than WOW.  But do they have quality?  Watching the AOC raids and searching for their abilities in wikis, they seem to have rather childish, uninteresting mechanics compared with a good WOW boss.

Quality is EQ2&WOW.

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  Volkon

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OP  5/08/13 2:07:08 PM#34
Originally posted by Axehilt
Originally posted by WelshyJT

Age of conan. for sure.

People saying wow are retarded, content that gets trivialised every 2 years, does not count as endgame

The content being trivialized is also why it's so much higher quality than the rest of the industry -- because they can control more closely for gear, and offer satisfying challenges which reward skillful play.

The other poster may be right that other games have more max-level content than WOW.  But do they have quality?  Watching the AOC raids and searching for their abilities in wikis, they seem to have rather childish, uninteresting mechanics compared with a good WOW boss.

All WoW bosses I recall were scripted fights with alarms, bells and whistles going off telling you what to do and when to do it. I'd be so busy watching the UI that I'd miss the fight.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  nennafir

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5/08/13 2:07:36 PM#35
Originally posted by SavageHorizon

This should give you some idea http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/EverQuest_2_Wiki:Main_Page

The game has a vast amount of max-level content, it's mind boggling.

Probably not more than GW1 though...and yes...I have played both a lot.  Yes, GW1 managed this because basically all of its content was max level with little intro zones before it for lower levels (with the exception of the first game that had a real campaign for <20).

 

Also, that you originally thought the person claiming GW1 had the most content was talking about GW2 shows that you are probably not very well versed in GW games, or you would have immediately realized what was meant...  

  Skooma2

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5/08/13 2:10:16 PM#36
People are going to point and laugh at me, but Guild Wars 1 has the most end-game things to do (since most of the game out of the newb areas is max level,)  including a wide variety of pvp to engage in.

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  nariusseldon

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5/08/13 2:18:56 PM#37
Originally posted by Volkon
 

All WoW bosses I recall were scripted fights with alarms, bells and whistles going off telling you what to do and when to do it. I'd be so busy watching the UI that I'd miss the fight.

You prefer a straight up spank & tank with nothing else?

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5/08/13 2:20:25 PM#38
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Eve because it doesn't have max level or endgame.

actually it has a max lvl, takes years to reach it tho :)

 

 

anyway, @topic i'd go for WoW or TSW

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  AIMonster

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5/08/13 2:32:43 PM#39

Alright, seeing as how I played endgame in most of the games mentioned here I feel I can comment:

EQ1 - Probably easily trumps everything in content, but not endgame content as level cap is continually raised with each expansion.

FFXI - Same as EQ1, it has a lot of content for sure with years to build on, but level cap is continually raised and older content because outdated.

WoW - It has less overall content than EQ and FFXI (but better quality in content); however I think each expansion typically has more endgame content.

EQ2 - The amount of content is mindblowning and if you include the chronomagus system you can downlevel to do solo, group, and raid content at various levels (including raid content as early as level 20!).  Even without including the chronomagus EQ2 has a lot of endgame content they bring with each expansion and level raise cap.  I definitely think this wins out overall.

AoC - AoC didn't raise the level cap with their expansion and for the amount of endgame content they have easily trumps the ones above, but their overall content is much less than all of the MMOs above.

Guild Wars - As with AoC almost everything is endgame due to no level cap increase on  and even more so with GW since there is very little leveling curve and you hit cap fast.  This wins out if you are only talking about max level content and not including any of the max level content from previous expansions in other games which raised their level cap.

Rift - Rift is a very endgame centric game and has a lot of content at endgame, moreso than WoW IMO, but can't compete with other games in nearly every category.

Eve - I don't think Eve should count because it's a sandbox MMO and the content isn't developer driven and can be quite repetitive IMO.

DAOC - I don't see this at all.  Maybe someone could clarify.  It definitely has more PvP content, but it doesn't have nearly enough PvE endgame to compete with the others on the list.

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  AreWeLive

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5/08/13 2:47:33 PM#40

I never considered GW a MMO, its a loby game like Diablo...

 I honestly think the question should not be what game has the most end game stuff but what end game would you play the most.

  Personally i have become a person that gets into an themepark MMO and maxes out my toon only to find the same boring stuff at the end that really does not interest me so i end up not playing it anymore or making alts.

 It occurs to me the only type of MMO that interests me are sandbox games with its opened ended style. Freedom is where it is at.

There is nothing like making a toon and heading out into an open world (end game) and going from there...the choices i make are mine, the path i walk are mine and the stuff i choose to do that I find exciting and enteraining are all up to me. I am not following a laid out path and playing someone else end game. 

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