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  Volkon

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OP  5/08/13 12:49:39 PM#1

I'm not even going to try and create a poll for this... no doubt I'd miss something. But here's the gist of it. You're in your MMO, at max level (or the equivalent), and you want to do... something. Which game out there has the most viable content for your character at max. level? (By viable I mean content that you're intended to do at level as opposed to, for example, going to a newbie zone and one-shotting everything when you take a deep breath.)

If you can, list the content.

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  CyclopsSlayer

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5/08/13 12:58:36 PM#2
It would be hard to know for sure, but both EQ1, FFXI and WoW have had the longest to add endgame content.  Games like Rift, GW1/2 are tiny by comparison. L2 has/had really tough content but is focused more at other things.
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5/08/13 12:59:01 PM#3
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.
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5/08/13 1:01:54 PM#4
Originally posted by CyclopsSlayer
It would be hard to know for sure, but both EQ1, FFXI and WoW have had the longest to add endgame content content.  Games like Rift, GW1/2 are tiny by comparison. L2 has/had really tough content but is focused more at other things.

The problem with older games is that as soon as you increase the level cap, everything that used to be max-level content no longer is, so you completely start over on creating max level content.  You need not just a game that has added a lot of content over the years, but also a game that has steadfastly refused to increase the level cap.

Furthermore, you also need a game that doesn't really let you progress much further after you reach the cap.  WoW-style progression raiding means that once you've got the best gear, the overwhelming majority of the level cap content really isn't meant for you, as it's meant for lower gear.  Having a lot to do at the cap without it really making you stronger is fairly unusual in an MMORPG, which lets us dismiss most games out of hand.

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5/08/13 1:03:31 PM#5
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

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  cybertrucker

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5/08/13 1:07:48 PM#6

Honestly this is a hard question to answer due to the nature of games and expansions. When expansions come out and raise level caps and give huge gear improvements that make older high end content more trivial. 

However overall content would have to go toEQ1 all the way around. Not even WOW can come close. They also have probably the hardest content around. With massive raids that require alot more coordination to pull off successfully.

  ShakyMo

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5/08/13 1:08:22 PM#7
Eve because it doesn't have max level or endgame.
  Volkon

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OP  5/08/13 1:08:43 PM#8
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

I believe he's talking about the original Guild Wars.

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  ShakyMo

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5/08/13 1:09:18 PM#9
If your talking themeparks though, usual suspects wow, daoc, eq.
  nariusseldon

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5/08/13 1:09:35 PM#10

D3 because of paragon leveling, random dungeons, and random loot.

Oh, someone will remind me that it is not a MMO .. close enough for me.

 

  Dominionlord

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5/08/13 1:10:24 PM#11
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

perhaps he meant the original?

  Nadia

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5/08/13 1:11:00 PM#12
Guild Wars 1 -- most the content is intended for level 20
  BrucyBonus

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5/08/13 1:11:50 PM#13
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

I believe he's talking about the original Guild Wars.

But Guild Wars only had huge amounts of end game content because the cap was low (tbh I thought it was a vastly better system than most mmo's including GW2; you played because it was fun).

It is probably WOW, but it is still repetitive grind.  

  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 1:11:51 PM#14
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

I believe he's talking about the original Guild Wars.

Whether it's the original guild wars or not it still loses out to EQ2 lol.

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  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 1:13:08 PM#15
Originally posted by BrucyBonus
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

I believe he's talking about the original Guild Wars.

But Guild Wars only had huge amounts of end game content because the cap was low (tbh I thought it was a vastly better system than most mmo's including GW2; you played because it was fun).

It is probably WOW, but it is still repetitive grind.  

I don't think WOW even get's close to EQ2.

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  Nadia

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5/08/13 1:14:51 PM#16

if the op is including downscaling,

I agree,  EQ2 qualifies for most content w its mentoring system

  ShakyMo

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5/08/13 1:15:59 PM#17
Nari
But them paragon levels and what have you.

It's just the same content on a harder difficulty

It's not new content, its the same content on a higher difficulty.

And yeah, d3, tl2 and poe are not mmos.

You might as well call left 4 dead or borderlands a mmo in that case.
  SavageHorizon

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5/08/13 1:16:06 PM#18
Originally posted by Nadia
Guild Wars 1 -- most the content is intended for level 20

That's not the question.

"what game has the most max-level content"

GW1 only goes up to level 20 so it's the games max level.

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5/08/13 1:16:58 PM#19
Originally posted by Nadia

if the op is including downscaling,

I agree,  EQ2 qualifies for most content w its mentoring system

Even without down scaling EQ2 wins.

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5/08/13 1:17:47 PM#20
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Quizzical
Probably Guild Wars.  You get to the level cap very quickly, and most of the game is built assuming that you're at the level cap.  And then if you flip to hard mode, everything is built assuming that you're at the level cap.

Lol, GW2 has nothing near the max level content of EQ2, anyone who thinks so is delusional.

Guild Wars 1, not 2.

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