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  Lord.Bachus

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OP  5/06/13 11:29:21 PM#1

The question is easy, how do you prefer your healing characters mechanics..

 

 

What type of healing does your healer prefer?

old fashioned, tab targetting (WoW/EQ)
Aiming at targets like in a fps (Neverwinter) with lots of AoE
Minimalistic AoE healing (GW2) without a true healer class.
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  Axehilt

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5/06/13 11:41:21 PM#2

Er, tab-targeting as a healer?

I mean I tab to an enemy and assist-button to heal who they're attacking as much as the next top-tier healer, but that's not exactly the common way players are targeted...

  Toxia

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5/06/13 11:44:18 PM#3

Depends on the party size and whether or not characters have collision detection so the dont all jumble up into one big mass of bodies.

in 8 ish man groups, i like clicking their icons on the party UI thats on my screen( you know, where all their healthbars are)

if 4 ish man groups, i wouldnt mind it being more actiony with fps type healing.

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  Barrikor

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5/07/13 12:10:11 AM#4

Depends - do you want people to be able to click wrong and heal the raid monster of doom?

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  Dzone

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5/07/13 12:31:24 AM#5
I much prefer tab targeting heals. I was a whm in ffxi for years and we hit f1-f6 to select the person than used are macros to heal. Thats the way i like it. Tried GW2 healing and definitly NO THANKS, hated just curing whoever was in a front line of me.
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5/07/13 12:33:20 AM#6
I can't answer that question, because I cant decide which I like better. I've tried all three, and each one has its advantages and disadvantages.
  mmoguy43

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5/07/13 1:04:34 AM#7

Aiming on a target to heal can be frusterating but there is some pride to be had if you are really skilled at this. It is good when you don't need to constantly be healing and a soft lock-on to targets is nice to have.

Select to heal can be fun as a main healer with various types of heals or with only few heals mixed with attacks or other abilities.

The first is better for faster paced combat and the other for slower

 

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  Leiloni

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5/07/13 1:07:28 AM#8
Can you change the "Aiming" example to TERA? Neverwinter is a horrible example of how to do Aiming healing and they barely even have any targeted heals to aim anyway - biased poll with that example.
  Leiloni

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5/07/13 1:09:07 AM#9
Originally posted by Axehilt

Er, tab-targeting as a healer?

I mean I tab to an enemy and assist-button to heal who they're attacking as much as the next top-tier healer, but that's not exactly the common way players are targeted...

The tab target refers to games that use tab target combat as opposed to games like TERA that have free targeting and make you manually aim.

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5/07/13 3:25:38 AM#10
Liked the style GW1 had. GW2 is closest to it on the poll. I much prefer tactical healing as opposed to the traditional whack-a-mole.

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  fivoroth

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5/07/13 3:34:03 AM#11

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

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  MMOExposed

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5/07/13 4:28:50 AM#12
Originally posted by Quirhid
Liked the style GW1 had. GW2 is closest to it on the poll. I much prefer tactical healing as opposed to the traditional whack-a-mole.

I am just going to quote this for future references.

 

  Quirhid

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5/07/13 4:29:43 AM#13
Originally posted by fivoroth

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

Just because you played a healer in EQ, WoW or any other game with traditional healers, doesn't make you an authority on what is a good healer. The traditional healer is notoriously unpopular, yet it is nearly always mandatory. This had to change.

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  Navac

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5/07/13 4:41:43 AM#14
WoW has tab targetting and some "cone" effects and AoE.  I think a balance of the two is nice though I prefer tab targetting to apply heals/shields/buffs to players as the main source of healing.  Not a fan of GW2 healing, it's just not really that fun for me personally.  That and the fact that there isn't a dedicated healing class....  
  sanshi44

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5/07/13 4:42:23 AM#15
The problem with FPS healing is that if yopu dont have less than 200 ping it can be quite difficult, being an australian player i get 180 ping west coast and 280 ping east cost of US and 340 ping or so in euro servers, so unless there gonna make a ocianic server it will be a little challenging. That being said i still play Darkfall dispite being at a disadvantage of the ping because its engaging.
  Lord.Bachus

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OP  5/07/13 4:45:40 AM#16
Originally posted by Leiloni
Can you change the "Aiming" example to TERA? Neverwinter is a horrible example of how to do Aiming healing and they barely even have any targeted heals to aim anyway - biased poll with that example.

Sorry there, i havent played Tera except for in open beta... And you are right, currently  Neverwinter only has one targeted heal.  But as its just an example you could replace it by  Tera of the healing cones in AoC.  

 

Maybe you can enlighten me as to explain how Tera differs that much from Neverwinter or AoC.

 

Sadly you can not change the content of a poll.

 

 

 

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  moosecatlol

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5/07/13 4:51:43 AM#17
Originally posted by fivoroth

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

You could probably bind tab to a heal skill, and bind target nearest target to your mouse.

That being pointed out, playing wack-a-mole was a joke in terms of difficulty, it was only compounded when mods like Clique were released. After 2006 healing became a one button function.

That being said, Guild Wars's monk had the most demanding healing role out of any game I've ever played. After Rits and Gons were released everything became much much easier. Aoe Spam heals for days.

  fivoroth

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5/07/13 5:44:04 AM#18

Originally posted by moosecatlol

Originally posted by fivoroth

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

You could probably bind tab to a heal skill, and bind target nearest target to your mouse.

That being pointed out, playing wack-a-mole was a joke in terms of difficulty, it was only compounded when mods like Clique were released. After 2006 healing became a one button function.

That being said, Guild Wars's monk had the most demanding healing role out of any game I've ever played. After Rits and Gons were released everything became much much easier. Aoe Spam heals for days.

To be honest, this can be said for dps-ing too. Healing in GW1 was cool but ultra stressful. It was very fast paced and energy management was always an issue unlike in MMOs where you seem to have infinite supply of mana. What made it even worse, that there were tons of mesmer mobs who would drain you dry.

Originally posted by Quirhid

Originally posted by fivoroth

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

Just because you played a healer in EQ, WoW or any other game with traditional healers, doesn't make you an authority on what is a good healer. The traditional healer is notoriously unpopular, yet it is nearly always mandatory. This had to change.

I never said that was the case (highlighted bit). I am just saying that it is understandable that people who don't like playing healers will want them gone from MMOs so that they have to look for a healer. Actually I am pretty sure that dps players are quite happy that tanks are gone too as they can now have parties consisting of 5 dps. The traditional healer is notoriously unpopular? Well, of course, most people want to pew pew. 

@all those saying that healing is a whack-mole job, really? And dpsing is not? All you do when you play as a dps class in MMOs is tab target and mash your buttons and faceroll your keyboard while looking at those super important damage meter numbers.

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  Quirhid

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5/07/13 7:31:19 AM#19
Originally posted by fivoroth
 

Originally posted by Quirhid

Originally posted by fivoroth

There is one big caveat in this poll. Do the people who are actually replying to this thread play or enjoy playing a healer? I am sure a large number of people who DON"T play as a healer (aka the dps facerollzz crowd) will of course say that they prefer GW2 becaues they don't have to rely on healers and they can do what they do best - mash buttons to pew pew.

I haven't tried option 2 but it doesn't sound like something I would enjoy. Option 3 - GW2's system is horrible and that's an understatement. In GW2 there isn't really a healer role. It's a paradise for the dps crowd as that's all there is in GW2.

The whole tab targeting phrase is becoming too common! In traditional games like WoW when exactly do you use TAB to heal someone? You usually either click the target or have a button assigned to the party member. No tab targetting at all. But yeah WoW/EQ's way of doing the healer class is the only fun thing for me. As I said, GW2 doesn't have anything for people who enjoy playing healers, the other one I have never played.

Just because you played a healer in EQ, WoW or any other game with traditional healers, doesn't make you an authority on what is a good healer. The traditional healer is notoriously unpopular, yet it is nearly always mandatory. This had to change.

I never said that was the case (highlighted bit). I am just saying that it is understandable that people who don't like playing healers will want them gone from MMOs so that they have to look for a healer. Actually I am pretty sure that dps players are quite happy that tanks are gone too as they can now have parties consisting of 5 dps. The traditional healer is notoriously unpopular? Well, of course, most people want to pew pew. 

@all those saying that healing is a whack-mole job, really? And dpsing is not? All you do when you play as a dps class in MMOs is tab target and mash your buttons and faceroll your keyboard while looking at those super important damage meter numbers.

Your logic is backwards. People don't play healers, not because they don't like playing healers, but because playing a healer is not fun. You get me? If playing a healer is fun, no one would have issues with playing a healer.

Playing a traditional healer is a whack-a-mole job more than any other role. You stare more at health bars/party window than the actual game and the abilities are often quite monotonous and uninspired. Most people don't find that appealing.

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  cybertrucker

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5/07/13 7:38:23 AM#20
Vanguard and WAR got it right with defensive target/offesive target . Dual targeting made healing much better. ToT is ok as well but still preferred dual targeting.
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