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  deviltheory

Novice Member

Joined: 3/28/13
Posts: 33

5/07/13 1:24:35 AM#21
What do you people want?  Seriously what?  They NEED to make money, PERIOD.  They give you all you need to play and enjoy the game for free, and they offer benefits for the players that want to pay.  This is not P2W, you can get all the same combat benefits by working for it for free.  Yes payers will get it faster, so what?  They have to offer something to entice people to spend money.  This game isn't even PVP centric, it's mainly a PVE experience.  And lets be fair here, if you play the game for a couple weeks and like it then do the decent thing and throw these guys some money.  I honestly wish this whole f2p craze was never even started because it has created the worst kind of whiners and naggers I've ever seen in online gaming communities. 
  Lobotomist

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/07
Posts: 4769

I got so much trouble on my mind Refuse to lose.

5/07/13 1:30:02 AM#22
Originally posted by evilastro
ID scrolls? Do some foundry, greater id drop like crazy. And the enchants drop enough to make the low upgrade chance alright. Not sure what people expected? With f2p its pay or grind.

Pay or Grind , you are right.

But I suspect they will soon adjust drop rate on those scrolls, and people will hit brick wall, with many item drops but almost no scroll drops.

Perfect way for PW to extort more money

  User Deleted
5/07/13 1:32:15 AM#23
Getting the enchants legit would take a month or two. I already have two Max enchants with no money on wards. If that's too much effort to gear up at end game, you should probably be playing GW2 instead.
  rommello

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Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 204

hallo ~_~

5/07/13 1:38:41 AM#24
its PWE just doing ther jobs, digging ther own graves for a long time no surprise here

hallo ~_~

  Karelia

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 688

5/07/13 1:41:01 AM#25
i already stopped even loging in. enough with this p2w crap
  mcrippins

Elite Member

Joined: 7/01/07
Posts: 966

5/07/13 1:47:04 AM#26
This is a good game. I won't deny that. I am just so tired of F2P it's ridiculous. Hard to believe people aren't willing to pay 50 cents a day. Cheapest hobby i've ever had.
  Teshrrar

Novice Member

Joined: 12/30/08
Posts: 20

5/07/13 1:50:24 AM#27

I don't get it: why do you think you can use any product of the world for free? Wake up, game industry (or any industry) aren't Santa!

  F2Plague

Novice Member

Joined: 5/07/13
Posts: 51

5/07/13 1:50:40 AM#28
Great post. I hate f2p games but I decided to give this a try because of the Neverwinter name. I am getting close to end game and am realising more and more that this f2p is so far from free its a joke. I never have a problem pulling out my credit card for a good game. But this isn't even good. I play with my friends so we always have a full party. And every one of these quests aside from dungeons and skirmishes is over in a matter of minutes they were all clearly designed for solo play. Ive only just started playing at open beta, I dont even play much but me and my buddies are almost end game thats how quick these quests go. And im done, not even gonna bother getting to end game to be put at a huge disadvantage against other players who are spending 100's to play a shitty instanced themepark.
  Xiaoki

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 2427

5/07/13 1:53:57 AM#29


Originally posted by deviltheory
What do you people want?  Seriously what?  They NEED to make money, PERIOD.   

Yeah, they do.


But instead of charging ridiculous high prices they could have reasonable prices and more people would open up their wallets.


Its like trying to become a millionaire by selling lemonade at $1000 a cup.

  DamonVile

Elite Member

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4385

5/07/13 1:54:29 AM#30

Anyone that tries to pvp in a f2p game is just asking to either be broke or frustrated. It's the only place that buying isn't an option. You either pay or you lose to someone with better gear.

If you don't pvp...none of the big price tag things are must have or you can't play items.

I have no problems with games that milk pvpers or people who have to have things right now. It's the way it should work.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  mcrippins

Elite Member

Joined: 7/01/07
Posts: 966

5/07/13 2:00:49 AM#31
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by deviltheory
What do you people want?  Seriously what?  They NEED to make money, PERIOD.   


Yeah, they do.

 


But instead of charging ridiculous high prices they could have reasonable prices and more people would open up their wallets.


Its like trying to become a millionaire by selling lemonade at $1000 a cup.

Tempted to try this

  thunderC

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/17/12
Posts: 350

5/07/13 7:26:54 AM#32

This thread was a real buzz kill as I am greatly enjoying the game at a low lvl. My only question to those of you at lvl cap is , How essential are these top tier enchants to running dungeons? I mean obviosly they make your toon stronger but are the "end game " dungeons next to immposible to beat without a party of 5 decked out in cash shop enchants?

 

  

  Vannor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2975

5/07/13 8:01:48 AM#33
Originally posted by thunderC

This thread was a real buzz kill as I am greatly enjoying the game at a low lvl. My only question to those of you at lvl cap is , How essential are these top tier enchants to running dungeons? I mean obviosly they make your toon stronger but are the "end game " dungeons next to immposible to beat without a party of 5 decked out in cash shop enchants?

 

They aren't essential. They aren't even suggested. I've out healed other people that have them on my cleric. I saw someone in the end pvp gear get out damaged by someone in basic blues as well. This is all just paranoid delusions or simply hating. Someone who hates on ftp will never admit it though.

You see how everyone is ignoring my posts at the start of this thread? Those who don't want to listen won't see sense. I already have a top tier enchantment and am close to my second without spending any real money. Only 3 more to go after that and I'm fully geared. The Astral diamonds are coming in thicker and faster now as well. People saying this is a problem simply don't know what they are talking about.

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
Posts: 11900

Currently playing EVE, SMITE, Wildstar, and Combat Arms

5/07/13 8:05:55 AM#34
Originally posted by DamonVile

Anyone that tries to pvp in a f2p game is just asking to either be broke or frustrated. It's the only place that buying isn't an option. You either pay or you lose to someone with better gear.

If you don't pvp...none of the big price tag things are must have or you can't play items.

Agreed. For the PvE players, which are the majority, none of the voodoo math applies.

  Talonsin

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Joined: 7/19/06
Posts: 1028

5/07/13 8:16:10 AM#35

OP,

Excellent post. I applaud you for providing facts and avoiding the hate/fanboism that is common to these boards.   

 

  Vannor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2975

5/07/13 8:19:47 AM#36
Originally posted by Talonsin

OP,

Excellent post. I applaud you for providing facts and avoiding the hate/fanboism that is common to these boards.

Misses out tons of vital info. It's a biased post. [mod edit]

  Vannor

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2975

5/07/13 8:23:09 AM#37
Originally posted by Talonsin
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by Talonsin

OP,

Excellent post. I applaud you for providing facts and avoiding the hate/fanboism that is common to these boards.

Misses out tons of vital info. It's a biased post. You're delusional.

[mod edit]

I've never fanboied anything in my life and I never will. There's tons of things I hate about Neverwinter and I wish it didn't have a cash shop at all. But.. if people are wrong, people are wrong. No amount of opinions is going to change that.

People who arn't even at the endgame are openly bashing it without knowing what they are talking about.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 3634

5/07/13 8:35:29 AM#38

Overall, I think if you play the game like a single player rpg (I have found myself trying to press F5 to save many times) and not worry about the cash shop, you will have a more enjoyable time. Unless of course you are one of those players that "has" to keep up with everyone else.

I will play this game now and again, but there is no way I'm putting any money into it. I will support the devs by word of mouth and letting others know it is a top knotch game, but imho, has an irritating combat system that constantly roots the player.

edit: OP, thank you for the information! It did help me quite a bit.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  thunderC

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/17/12
Posts: 350

5/07/13 8:44:31 AM#39
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by thunderC

This thread was a real buzz kill as I am greatly enjoying the game at a low lvl. My only question to those of you at lvl cap is , How essential are these top tier enchants to running dungeons? I mean obviosly they make your toon stronger but are the "end game " dungeons next to immposible to beat without a party of 5 decked out in cash shop enchants?

 

They aren't essential. They aren't even suggested. I've out healed other people that have them on my cleric. I saw someone in the end pvp gear get out damaged by someone in basic blues as well. This is all just paranoid delusions or simply hating. Someone who hates on ftp will never admit it though.

You see how everyone is ignoring my posts at the start of this thread? Those who don't want to listen won't see sense. I already have a top tier enchantment and am close to my second without spending any real money. Only 3 more to go after that and I'm fully geared. The Astral diamonds are coming in thicker and faster now as well. People saying this is a problem simply don't know what they are talking about.

Good to hear. I do plan on dropping a 20 here and a 20 there in the near future with the cash shop but in no way would i continue to play a game that requires you to drop a few hundred bucks to Play. I'd have to assume based on your post alot of the cash shop hysteria is being created by those who simply want to bash the f2p cash model in general an discourage all from supporting it. 

  Vannor

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Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2975

5/07/13 8:59:29 AM#40
Originally posted by thunderC
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by thunderC

This thread was a real buzz kill as I am greatly enjoying the game at a low lvl. My only question to those of you at lvl cap is , How essential are these top tier enchants to running dungeons? I mean obviosly they make your toon stronger but are the "end game " dungeons next to immposible to beat without a party of 5 decked out in cash shop enchants?

They aren't essential. They aren't even suggested. I've out healed other people that have them on my cleric. I saw someone in the end pvp gear get out damaged by someone in basic blues as well. This is all just paranoid delusions or simply hating. Someone who hates on ftp will never admit it though.

You see how everyone is ignoring my posts at the start of this thread? Those who don't want to listen won't see sense. I already have a top tier enchantment and am close to my second without spending any real money. Only 3 more to go after that and I'm fully geared. The Astral diamonds are coming in thicker and faster now as well. People saying this is a problem simply don't know what they are talking about.

Good to hear. I do plan on dropping a 20 here and a 20 there in the near future with the cash shop but in no way would i continue to play a game that requires you to drop a few hundred bucks to Play. I'd have to assume based on your post alot of the cash shop hysteria is being created by those who simply want to bash the f2p cash model in general an discourage all from supporting it. 

It's no secret that paying will get you there quicker.. but some people blow that out of proportion. They make it sound like it's almost impossible or will take months if you don't pay. It's just not true.

In a tradtional MMO combat system things like this probably would matter a lot in terms of character performance but it's just not as big a deal in NW. If that guy who spent $2000 in the cash shop can't dodge properly, he's dead.. and the skilled free players are gradually catching up at a 'reasonable' rate (subjective, I know) and getting all the enchants and gear they have.

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