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  Icewhite

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5/05/13 5:35:35 PM#101
Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss
It's aging. I love the gameplay but can't become immersed in the world anymore.

"XXXX was your favorite game ever, why don't you still play it?" "OMGSooDated"

"So you'd rather play nothing at all, or inferior substitutes, and just gripe about it?" "Yes, yes I would."

Welcome to MMO veteran-hood. You have all of the necessary qualfications.

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Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  User Deleted
5/05/13 5:39:14 PM#102
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by David_Lopan
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Sanctuaryy

It's amazing wow isn't "popular on this site" as you say. 

Whatever, I only played WoW about 6 months total and I'll say it.

I love WoW!  Sure I don't play it today and I never reached level cap.

Back in 2010 summer I played whilst listening to Blind Guardian and Ayreon.  Amazing experience. Thankful for the game and adventure.

 

This website is basically where the MMORPG hipsters and cynical veterans hang out. 

  Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!

Finally! A couple of people who get it.

There is hope for the MMORPG community yet.

If you are unhappy here, you are welcome to hang out elsewhere....

Nah, watching hipsters derp themselves into a frenzy is too much fun...

Thanks for the advice though.

  NightBandit

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Make friends not money, then wealth will follow.

5/05/13 5:47:53 PM#103
Originally posted by libraofdoom
Eve Online

OP Dunno how you came to the idea that Wow was the only long standing MMO but as libraofdoom has pointed out this pisses over Wow in more ways that one. You need a brain to play Eve unlike Wow you just need a low end PC and two hands.

I'm sure that as Eve grows stronger and grows yearly it will remain the top MMO out in the market place as long as it continues to Eve-olve like it has.

Still guess that's why most people who play Wow cannot see any other games around as they are blinkered. BUT if you really had any kind of bottle you should try the trail https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=99b7cb68-c470-41e9-8301-f171772df474&action=buddy and then pop back and leave comments on what you learned about Eve.

 

Bandit

 

The Bandit

  darkhalf357x

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I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

5/05/13 5:49:40 PM#104
Originally posted by Ozimandeus

 

BUT.. I think we may have one title that might just do something different and might just be huge..and its Marvel Heros.

What do you believe is so different for Marvel Heroes?  I was in the closed beta and it came across as a diablo clone with a marvel skin and RPG like upgrades.  Happy to understand what Im missing but it didnt leave me impressed, though believe it will have an audience.

  WhiteLantern

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Posts: 2782

5/05/13 5:54:54 PM#105
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by David_Lopan
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Sanctuaryy

It's amazing wow isn't "popular on this site" as you say. 

Whatever, I only played WoW about 6 months total and I'll say it.

I love WoW!  Sure I don't play it today and I never reached level cap.

Back in 2010 summer I played whilst listening to Blind Guardian and Ayreon.  Amazing experience. Thankful for the game and adventure.

 

This website is basically where the MMORPG hipsters and cynical veterans hang out. 

  Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!

Finally! A couple of people who get it.

There is hope for the MMORPG community yet.

ER, since you're hanging out here,I guess you're part of said crowd then?

 

I hang out at gay bars, but I'm not gay.

 

Wait!    No, that's the wrong analogy.

I know I've got a good one here somewhere.........

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Loktofeit

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Joined: 1/13/10
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Currently playing EVE, SMITE, ArcheAge, and Combat Arms

5/05/13 6:12:01 PM#106
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by David_Lopan
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Sanctuaryy

It's amazing wow isn't "popular on this site" as you say. 

Whatever, I only played WoW about 6 months total and I'll say it.

I love WoW!  Sure I don't play it today and I never reached level cap.

Back in 2010 summer I played whilst listening to Blind Guardian and Ayreon.  Amazing experience. Thankful for the game and adventure.

 

This website is basically where the MMORPG hipsters and cynical veterans hang out. 

  Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!Ding!!

Finally! A couple of people who get it.

There is hope for the MMORPG community yet.

ER, since you're hanging out here,I guess you're part of said crowd then?

 

I hang out at gay bars, but I'm not gay.

 

Wait!    No, that's the wrong analogy.

I know I've got a good one here somewhere.........

Here it is.

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  WhiteLantern

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Joined: 1/27/10
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5/05/13 6:18:30 PM#107
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by Kyleran

ER, since you're hanging out here,I guess you're part of said crowd then?

 

I hang out at gay bars, but I'm not gay.

 

Wait!    No, that's the wrong analogy.

I know I've got a good one here somewhere.........

Here it is.

If it'd been anybody but you, I'd not have clicked that link.

 

 

WTF.

 

I think I hate you now.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  redcore

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Joined: 11/03/07
Posts: 28

5/05/13 6:38:37 PM#108

what is very important for me?

-animations and reaction times of my characters.wow has the best gameplay and animation from all the mmos on the market. when i play wow toon, i "feel" the  mass, weight, immediate reactions (depends on lag i know)..etc.but you know what i mean. but in other mmos it looks like playing some floating skinny something what barely looks like a moving human (or whatever else). warhammer online had great animations too. the only downside (animation wise) were sliding npc's when they moved towards me.

so basically if an animaion of my char doesn't impress me from the very beginning, i just quit. i don't care how good are the quests, lore, world...if i have to stare at the same toon over and over and it doesn't move and look like it should i  just uninstall the game immediately.

 

and i don't know how good are japanesse / chinesse games, because i really hate that stupid manga (anime) style. small noses, big eyes, big boobs, innocent look..it feels like being a shitty pedophile....nah..i just don't wanna play (or even look) on that asian crap.

  cybertrucker

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Joined: 1/08/07
Posts: 1135

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5/05/13 6:48:21 PM#109
Have you tried AION?
  JRRNeiklot

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Joined: 2/03/11
Posts: 107

5/05/13 6:50:33 PM#110
Originally posted by trash656

If you do Research into this, There is a good explaination for that. It's got nothing too do with WoW being a great and Wonderful Game Either.

The New MMORPG"s that come out now are Dumbed Down, Have less and less content in them, more simplified then ever, easy, simplified mechanics, and classes because the Developers are incompetant greedy Profiteering gluttons who no longer make games because they weren't just soley fixed on money, but also because they were gamers themselves at one point who wanted to make Really Great Games with Excellent story writers, programmers, and Artists, but now it's Like a Shopping Mall were all the Investers have complete control over everything, most of it is all about Money now. That's all they care about, They don't care about making great games because they can cash in on easy sales, and pre orders. Perfect Examples of this are War Z, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, Auto Assualt, All Points Bulliten, the list goes on...

These PR representatives and developers are completely and utterly disconnected with the Gaming Community, Who cater to the ones Who are the Obiediant gamers no matter what (Fanboys) who are smart enough to realize a game "Can" be good, Just by "Graphics" and "Gameplay" but are dumb enough to passivly accept all these increasingly shitter games, with less customization, Depth, story, less lore, less choices, and less Creativity. It's a Big Club, and you ain't in it. We are just the stupid ants following around with our faces in each others assess just hoping the next MMORPG will be better but it never is because those PR people are so good at hyping things up, making a game sound really interesting and indepth and while you do your pre order then are laughing at you and me all the way to the bank because they know you just got ripped off.

*The Golden Age of MMORPG"s is Finnished. Don't Botherr looking forward to it, because you will be dissapointed to the point of giving up on MMORPG"s all together. just be happy for what you have.*

Very well said.

  reeereee

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 773

5/05/13 6:55:59 PM#111
In situations like this I normally recomend TERA, if you can stand korean style graphics it's definantly worth a look.  There are definantly some downsides to the game but it has the best combat around and if you're decent at making in game gold there is no need to touch the cash shop.
  Gravarg

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Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 3219

5/05/13 6:57:42 PM#112
I played WoW from Beta til about 2 months ago.  I also play Rift.  I only left WoW because I didn't have enough time to play WoW, Rift, Defiance, and Neverwinter.  Right now, I'm playing Neverwinter mainly, but also playing Defiance, and still haning out and raiding with my friends and guildmates in Rift.  Some of my friends from Lotro, Wow, DAoC, EQ, and Rift have also joined me in Neverwinter.  Alot of my friends from Lotro in fact.  I think people are starting to look for a new RP mmoRPg, and Neverwinter is pretty good, since most of my friends also do pen and paper, so we know the setting kinda.  I might have to drop Rift as well (which I've played since beta also), just so I have time to play Neverwinter and Defiance.
  ShakyMo

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Posts: 7246

5/05/13 6:59:15 PM#113
OP suggests wow is good at all things.

IT'S NOT

It's great for raiders, its good at dungeon crawls.

But its a piss poor game for crafters and pvpers.
  Vaelgard

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5/05/13 7:05:06 PM#114
Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

Since one year after WoW came out I've been looking for a game to give me an excuse to never go back. Heck, they added Pandaren, something which has completely ruined the atmosphere for myself and many others.

Unfortunately, dozens of MMOs have released and all of them have been underwhelming. I invested so much of my time into waiting for Warhammer Online and it only lasted me two weeks. I waited patiently for Final Fantasy XIV and that was the worst MMO I've ever played. I even gave SWTOR a shot but that was a game with way too much development time put into the voice acting and cutscenes. Guild Wars 2 was similarly fun for a week or two but once I hit level 60 the game's awful dungeon design and lackluster endgame destroyed any thought of me considering it a long-term alternative.

Here I am playing Neverwinter and I actually find it fun. But it isn't polished, AT ALL. The presentation reminds me of MMOs I played back in 2009, and the cash shop is designed in such a way that I feel punished.

I know WoW isn't popular on this site, but truthfully it's by far and away the most polished MMO in history. The combat is still the best in the genre, the world is immersive, and the presentation is clean albeit aging. It's so disheartening because I love the MMO genre, but every game I play makes me just want to go back to WoW. I don't want to go back. I've spent thousands of hours there. Someone, please, any developer, please save us!

It is friggin crazy how much I agree with you.  I played Diablo 2 in 1999, played Shadowbane in 2003-2004, which were both great experiences, but when WoW came out, I played it. 2004.  Guess what I'm playing now.  WoW.  2013.  Nine years later, and I'm still/back in WoW.  I've quit so many times, sometimes for a month, sometimes for 3, sometimes for 6, sometimes for a year.  But I always try to find an MMO that won't make me want to go back.  I don't want to go back either.  I want something polished that evokes the feeling I had with Shadowbane... something where what you do actually matters.  But, the polish of WoW crushes the wannabes.  Is there anything.. anything at all?  I've tried dozens of MMOs with no success.

  JonnyBigBoss

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OP  5/05/13 7:48:52 PM#115
Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by libraofdoom
Eve Online

OP Dunno how you came to the idea that Wow was the only long standing MMO but as libraofdoom has pointed out this pisses over Wow in more ways that one. You need a brain to play Eve unlike Wow you just need a low end PC and two hands.

I'm sure that as Eve grows stronger and grows yearly it will remain the top MMO out in the market place as long as it continues to Eve-olve like it has.

Still guess that's why most people who play Wow cannot see any other games around as they are blinkered. BUT if you really had any kind of bottle you should try the trail https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=99b7cb68-c470-41e9-8301-f171772df474&action=buddy and then pop back and leave comments on what you learned about Eve.

 

Bandit

 

I have a subscription to EVE right now. I live in low sec with a small corp. It's the most boring MMO I've ever played. I love the music and environment, though.

  simsalabim77

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5/05/13 7:54:31 PM#116
Originally posted by ShakyMo
OP suggests wow is good at all things.

IT'S NOT

It's great for raiders, its good at dungeon crawls.

But its a piss poor game for crafters and pvpers.

 

Depends on your personal defintion of good PVP. 

  Yamota

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5/05/13 7:57:40 PM#117
WoW is probably the best ThemePark MMO, yes.
  Nadia

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5/05/13 8:00:16 PM#118
Originally posted by Latronus

 to each their own I guess.

my sentiments too

 

WOW has no  utility classes -- like EQs bards and enchanters

I dont like how WOW is more simplified in game mechanics

 

but thats me

  doodphace

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5/06/13 2:49:45 PM#119
Originally posted by ShakyMo
OP suggests wow is good at all things.

IT'S NOT

It's great for raiders, its good at dungeon crawls.

But its a piss poor game for crafters and pvpers.

This pretty much 100%. Nothing comes remotely close to it PvE wise (and i'm talking current content from MoP, not PvE from years ago that ppl keep brining up in the whole "9 years" argument).

PvP though, is a complete and total CC fest/mess. Its modes are some of the best though (battlegrounds, 2v3, 3v3, 4v4, 5v5, ranked ladders), but CC has just gotten completely out of hand.

  DavisFlight

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5/06/13 5:36:12 PM#120
Originally posted by Kalstark
Originally posted by DavisFlight

Good combat, immersive world? You're just trying to troll, aren't you? WoW is pretty bottom of the barrel. Sadly, almost all AAA MMOs since then have tried to emulate the bottom of the barrel status.

Seriously how can a phased, instanced, linear, world with useless NPCs and !!! over every quest, be immersive? It's not. It's arcadey.

.......another sandbox fan still crying that the game they think was the best ,never came anywhere close to being on wows level and is gone. please tell me what mmo is at the top of the barrel for good combat and an immersive world.

and tell me why wows combat sucks and how the world is not immersive

On top for being immersive? Old EverQuest, Vanguard, Darkfall, Eve. Even DAoC to some extent.

 

How is WoW not immersive? The instancing. The phasing. The instant teleporting into a dungeon with people you'll never see again. The floating icons over every NPC, showing that they're just useless sacks of quest text, not actual characters like NPCs in old MMOs were. Nothing is persistent. There's a GPS minimap that shows you where everything is and how to do every quest.

 

It feels like a game, not a virtual world. Some people like that, and that's fine. But don't try to pretend it's immersive, by any means. Real worlds don't having phasing or instances, or little isolated battlegrounds with a scoreboard, or useless filler quests.

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