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General Discussion  » You guys think DISNEY will do a new SW trilogy based MMORPG?

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  Yamota

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5/04/13 12:22:05 PM#21
No. I dont think Disney will create an MMORPG and if they do it will be a another pure ThemePark affair.
  DeaconX

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OP  5/04/13 12:28:13 PM#22
Originally posted by CatAtomic99

I think it's going to be ten years or more before we see another studio take a swing at a Star Wars MMORPG. Even though the first two were really screwed up by bean counters and suits more than game developers, the bean counters and suits won't see it that way.

They'll see a license that has severely disappointed on two separate attempts, even with huge development budgets. And the thinking will stop there.

EA didn't actually mess with BioWare during the development of SWTOR - and I can't blame them for doing whatever they can now to recover some of the money they dumped into the BioWare Austin team.

Truth is, BioWare Austin messed up SWTOR in the core design of the game - of course, that's just a matter of opinion and many people love the game as is -- however it does seem to be a fairly popular opinion that this was simply NOT the Star Wars MMORPG that fans wanted.

The combat was outdated - they wanted to play it safe. That turned out to be less than safe.

The story driven content was pretty phenomenal and way above most MMO's for sure - this is one thing they definitely got right.

Aside from that, the game kind of fell flat in pretty much every area of design - it's just not a hit with people.

 

I truly beleive that for a Star Wars MMORPG to work and be very successful, you need the sense of adventure that SWTOR can provide, with the freedom for players to really 'live' in this beloved galaxy that the ambitious sandbox that was gutted, SWG, once was working hard to provide.  Only a hybrid of these two makes logical sense to me when it comes to a Star Wars MMORPG.

 

UNFORTUNATELY for us all, while I've worked for Disney and loved working there, I know they're 100% focused on the movies and don't really care much about Star Wars gaming at all.  I really wish they had someone over there to take charge and create some wonderful Star Wars games because... there is just a ridiculous amount of money to be made, if only they were making the right games, the right ways.


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  DocBrody

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5/04/13 1:09:27 PM#23
I really hope so
  pmw4friend

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5/04/13 1:41:42 PM#24
Honestly idk but i really hope they don't because i have never like star wars and i don't think ill ever do .. no disrespect for the people that do enjoy star wars but my opinion is that it sucks
  ElRenmazuo

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5/04/13 1:49:00 PM#25
People always assume disney only makes things for kids but they have made stuff that would appeal to adults too like Tron and Gargoyles series.

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  waynejr2

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5/04/13 2:07:02 PM#26
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by DeaconX

With the new trilogy in the works to usher in what I can only assume will be a new generation of fans (and possibly restore some old ones), I can't help but wonder if Disney will eventually want to cash in with a new MMORPG based on said trilogy which will likely feature a lot of the more recognizable Star Wars elements from the OT/Sequel Trilogy.

 

What do you guys think... maybe we'll see another shot at a great Star Wars MMORPG in like... the next 10 years?

 If the next movie  in 2015 is successful  there might be another shot taken. The high expectations and disappointments of the last two will make Disney cautious . If minimizing risk is what Disney is after, then I'd say an MMO is a long shot. 

If you were the shot caller, would you do it?

Hell no. I wouldn't touch this genre with a 40 foot pole. Not until the technology gets to the point that you can create a massive world with all the right features on a good engine with great animations and great graphics. The MMO playerbase is so jaded and so prickly that anything short of that will be seen as a disappointment. It's just not worth the investment.  

 

 I agree with you.  The current player base needs an attitude change.

  DeaconX

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OP  5/04/13 2:35:50 PM#27
Originally posted by pmw4friend
Honestly idk but i really hope they don't because i have never like star wars and i don't think ill ever do .. no disrespect for the people that do enjoy star wars but my opinion is that it sucks

So, because you don't like something, you hope it isn't created for others that do?

Kind of odd, especially since it wouldn't really affect you anyway...


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  Torvaldr

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5/04/13 3:32:24 PM#28

It would be cool to play in the current universe going forward.  Leave original timeline alone (except maybe some personal story type instances) and focus on letting players touch the movie timeline (like LotRO) and exploring the rest of the galaxy.  I think interacting with iconic Star Wars lore figures would be extremely popular.

They really need to consider who could build that in an epic Disney manner.  Not that many studios have done stuff on a grand scale and done it well.  There is also probably media politics involved in who could be involved (e.g. with Warner owning Turbine that might not be a likely alliance.).  Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

Curse you AquaScum!

  DeaconX

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OP  5/04/13 10:22:01 PM#29
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

That indeed is a great question.

Quite hoenstly, there are very few current studios I would say even have a shot at getting it right and NONE I would say that I'd actually is perfect for the job. BioWare would have been the best candidate but... we know how that turned out.

 

I'd say you pretty much have to build the right group... aside from that, and people are going to wanna crucify me for saying this... but I think SOE would be the company to do it -- I think EQNext is going to be a big step for them in a great direction for MMORPG's.

I also believe if they got another shot at it, they'd have a wealth of lessons learned from SWG and from KOTOR... and they would build a 'SandPark' full of freedom and advneture.

 

Aside from that, I think CCP could POSSIBLY be a strong candidate, as can funcom - who I admire for always at least trying new things even if things don't quite work out for them.  I actually feel kinda bad for funcom. Anyhoo...

*braces for impact...*


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  Torvaldr

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5/05/13 2:22:51 AM#30
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Who could really make a Star Wars game right?  I keep going in circles with that one.

That indeed is a great question.

Quite hoenstly, there are very few current studios I would say even have a shot at getting it right and NONE I would say that I'd actually is perfect for the job. BioWare would have been the best candidate but... we know how that turned out.

 

I'd say you pretty much have to build the right group... aside from that, and people are going to wanna crucify me for saying this... but I think SOE would be the company to do it -- I think EQNext is going to be a big step for them in a great direction for MMORPG's.

I also believe if they got another shot at it, they'd have a wealth of lessons learned from SWG and from KOTOR... and they would build a 'SandPark' full of freedom and advneture.

 

Aside from that, I think CCP could POSSIBLY be a strong candidate, as can funcom - who I admire for always at least trying new things even if things don't quite work out for them.  I actually feel kinda bad for funcom. Anyhoo...

*braces for impact...*

I came up with SoE as the only current group.  There are other studios that could almost do it, but not quite.  To really do it right I think a mix from all of the following studios would be good.

ANet has a graet knack for making a world feel alive and their cities are top notch.  I thin they could grab the epic feel, but I'm not sure if they could do gritty or in depth rpg.

XLGames, moreso Jake Song.  He has a great understanding of what drives open world pvp and politics.  He would lend a lot to indepth systems and complex interactions.

For storytelling and making quests/stories feel immersive and part of the world I would say Funcom.  They also get gritty pretty good.

Blizzard does epic scale well, but I feel like they're so wrapped up in their own IPs and style that they could do Star Wars like it needs to be.

Carbine - Even though Wildstar isn't out and the team is sort of unproven in their current form, their ideas and approach I think would make a great addition to the creative mix.

Then I get to SoE.  They understand rpg depth, massive game scale, and they get complex system integration.  They haven't done great with gritty in the past, but that's most of what is missing.

If I could take elements from all those studios, plus several other people from studios or game projects then I think it could be the right team.  SoE would be a good publisher for this game I think along with making a good addition to the development team.

Curse you AquaScum!

  DamonVile

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5/05/13 2:37:06 AM#31

Building an mmo is like building an appartment building and trying to get your money back through rent. It's a bad investment with high risk.

Disney is way too smart to ever buy into that nonsense. They build condos for huge profit ( consol games, movies, toys ect ) get in get out with bags of money and move on to the next fad. None of this life time of customer server and endless development.

All you have to do is look at what happened to any big company that failed at living up to the fans expectation and you'd know Disney would never risk that for a silly game. Pissing off millions of fans and having their name dragged through the mud isn't the type of industry they'll ever get directly involved in.

  simplius

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5/05/13 9:42:45 AM#32

they are involved,,they own the IP, remember?

some fans are already blaming the mouse for swtors situation,,go figure

  NasherUK

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5/06/13 9:34:06 AM#33

Nope, because Bioware own the "Old Republic" name.  Even though it's still star wars.

 

Anyway SWTOR isn't doing to bad.  I quit wow to play it and I've never looked back (though wow is in a pretty dreadful state now).  But you can't help but see EA's influence over it, SWTOR was dumbed down some during the beta because of EA. It started off a lot closer to KOTOR and your class and choices made much more of a difference.  But that's the kind of thing you get from big publishers these days. If a vegetable can't understand it, they don't like it :/

  Pixel_Jockey

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5/06/13 10:34:05 AM#34

Several years ago, I would have said Bioware could do it....mumble...mumble...mumble...

I know SOE gets allot of heat around here, but I think they could do it. SWG initially was a great game (keeping in mind it's age and the time when it was released). Yes it was ruined by some horrible game changing desicions, but I feel SOE without LA looking over their shoulder could really make a good Star Wars MMO. One thing about SWG is that it FELT like Star Wars (SWTOR does not at all IMO). Like them or not, SOE has put out some good games over the years (EQ, Planetside, etc). Just my opinion.

  BadOrb

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5/06/13 12:23:37 PM#35
Originally posted by Pixel_Jockey

Several years ago, I would have said Bioware could do it....mumble...mumble...mumble...

I know SOE gets allot of heat around here, but I think they could do it. SWG initially was a great game (keeping in mind it's age and the time when it was released). Yes it was ruined by some horrible game changing desicions, but I feel SOE without LA looking over their shoulder could really make a good Star Wars MMO. One thing about SWG is that it FELT like Star Wars (SWTOR does not at all IMO). Like them or not, SOE has put out some good games over the years (EQ, Planetside, etc). Just my opinion.

Well they could use most of the cancelled MMO game's stories from "The Agency" for an imperial agent MMO but I do feel they are a little busy with EQNext for the time being. Let's not forget in another thread , the interview with Mr Olhen , where other Ip's or possibly another SW MMO could be a possibility. Throws pixie dust and vanishes , again.

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  MikeB

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5/06/13 4:11:09 PM#36

If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

Commence head explosions? :)

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  ragz45

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5/06/13 4:22:21 PM#37
Originally posted by MikeB

If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

Commence head explosions? :)

Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

  Dauzqul

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5/06/13 4:30:13 PM#38

It really depends on how much the license will cost and what else is required to even purchase the license. I mean... Paris Hilton has a lot of money, but I doubt they would let someone like that license the Star Wars name. Disney has a purity and reputation to uphold. They just can't let anyone license it.

 

If their restrictions and costs aren't crazy, we could see several future Star Wars MMOs.

  MikeB

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5/06/13 4:30:39 PM#39
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by MikeB

If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

Commence head explosions? :)

Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

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  BadOrb

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5/06/13 4:47:16 PM#40
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by MikeB

If they do, it looks like EA will be doing it.

http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983

Commence head explosions? :)

Worst news of the decade.  Such a sad day for Star Wars and MMO players all together.

Honestly this news deserves a headline all of it's own.

Your wish is our command!

So Mr Olhen hinted at this and I picked up on it and got called , see bottom of my sig , a villain for it by none other than "Ignore me " so are you gonna come appogiese to me then huh ? Great news for SWTOR , seems like we might get another expansion or MMO , or RPG , who knows. Might have to change my pixie dust villain now then.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
"SWG was not fun. Let it go buddy." quote from iiNoSkillzii 10/18/13
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