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  Instigator-Jones

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Joined: 2/07/13
Posts: 481

5/03/13 1:01:45 PM#61
I think the CU forum mods are going to have their work cut out for them. As the KS came to an end the posts (trollish from both supporters and detractors) became ugly. I'm sure the MMORPG mods can attest to this, as I saw blatant posts declaring positions like 'suck it' that were obviously on track for removal. Point being, CU has raised the passions of some to a fury level, and it would seem that one miss-step on development side will put the debates into hysteria mode.
  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3096

I am more than some of my parts

5/03/13 1:13:34 PM#62
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by eyelolled
...

 

Could you please tell me why you need the critics?  And please don't answer that question in a generalized way, but be definitive. Thanks

Definitive...

Because without the critics ideas are unchallenged and potential flaws are therefore not considered.

How's that?

Specific example - in Pirates of the Burning Sea the Port Battle mechanic was to be an instance allowing the same number of players on each side to attend 25 vs 25 (giving a balanced battle).

Several people on the forum questioned this - and were shouted down on the grounds that this ensured balanced battles.

The counter point raised was that this would only be possible if there were 25 people from a faction online at the time.

The fans rubbished this - saying that it was unthinkable that a game allowing 8000(?) per server would not constantly have the required number of people on line to fill all slots in these battles.

The Fanbois shouted the whole argument down and got threads locked with the support of a FLS moderator.

So what happened?

On several servers port battles went uncontested or were so unbalanced that they were a complete farce.  The higher populated factions exploited the weakness and deliberately stacked port battles to make it impossible for some factions to defend.

 

I had actually retracted my question earlier as I realized that I had asked the question in haste. Still, thank you for your reply.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3542

Hipster

5/03/13 1:49:52 PM#63
Originally posted by MarkJacobs

Critics != Trolls usually.

Good luck getting that principle across to your new crowd   :)

 

  Edany

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 187

5/03/13 4:15:19 PM#64

I'll go ahead and chime in, since I believe it was a few of my replies that have been specifically called out in here, from the 'green text' rant in the nanny-post, to the 'suck it' comment left on Massively when this funded.

I will first stand up right off the bat and tell you that I am a 'fangirl' of CU. That said, I have gladly and civilly debated topics with many here who I would personally consider to be trolls, but who posted above average arguments that could be bantered back and forth about. Please feel free to view my post history. If someone can come up with a well reasoned argument, or concern, or  a different point of view, I may not like it but I won't go on the attack and shoot that person down right away.

When I see a person come in with a condescending tone, poo-pooing the game or the community in general without having a reason why other than 'Mark Jacobs sux0rz cause he does and I said so', then yeah, I'm gonna shoot that person down. When I see a post lecture the community in general on how they should behave like a mother hen, I'm gonna shoot it down. I've had more than a good share of warnings and even had serious replies with no flames, trolls, or cursing in it deleted on here without so much as a thank you very much or a reaon as to why. 

As for the 'Suck It' comment I left, one time, on Massively, directed to the deliberate trolls on there who follwed every single thread and posted pointless, uninspired, uninformative troll posts - *cough*Dreliron*cough*, *cough*lordkrall88*cough*, among others there who were more than happy to shout down the game, MJ, the community, or anything that had to do with the game in general, well, when the game funded I didn't hesitate. It felt damned good, and I stand by it. Those people can indeed suck it as far as I'm concerned. 

It was a mild response compared to what I really wanted to say. It was out of respect for a few people in the CU Community that I didn't go further. The same can be said for certain trolls here who I'm not going to bother to call out, Meddyck NOT being one of them.

I was sorely tempted to write a nice rant with some choice words, happy to accept the ban I would have gotten for it. Looked forward to it in fact. A long time poster here had a thread dedicated to bashing the shit out of them from trolls who were more than happy to kick him when he was down. That thread is still open for comments. Yet, he came on here and thanked the moderators and this site for their (in my view, limited) support. Out of respect for him, I let it go, and didn't write the post I wanted to.

There is a very easily discernable difference between trolls and those with a different point of view or an idea of why something might not work. I've even reconsidered my point of view on more than one item that could make it into the game because of some posts here that were well written and explained. I look forward to more of those.

The whining in general, the fear and the 'concern' that CU isn't going to make it because you didn't do it MY way over and over and over again, CU sucked, CU's marketing sucked, MJ's games sucked, MJ sucked, blah blah blah blah blah. Those were troll posts, simple as that. Not well reasoned, not well thought out, nothing suggested in the way of improvement, nothing contributory, nothing researched or even founded in reality, they just plain out trolled. I have no problem calling it like I see it. I'm not going to change that for anyone.

It has nothing to do with being a fangirl, fanboy, or rabid. It has everything to do with having 2 cells in the grey matter that functionally rub together and applying that force and friction to something productive. The backers forums have a higher chance of success for that than anywhere else.

  professornomos

Novice Member

Joined: 4/29/13
Posts: 67

5/03/13 4:45:13 PM#65
MJ thanks for the honesty.
  Grimbor

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Joined: 4/12/13
Posts: 24

5/03/13 4:50:24 PM#66
Originally posted by Edany

I'll go ahead and chime in, since I believe it was a few of my replies that have been specifically called out in here, from the 'green text' rant in the nanny-post, to the 'suck it' comment left on Massively when this funded.

I will first stand up right off the bat and tell you that I am a 'fangirl' of CU. That said, I have gladly and civilly debated topics with many here who I would personally consider to be trolls, but who posted above average arguments that could be bantered back and forth about. Please feel free to view my post history. If someone can come up with a well reasoned argument, or concern, or  a different point of view, I may not like it but I won't go on the attack and shoot that person down right away.

When I see a person come in with a condescending tone, poo-pooing the game or the community in general without having a reason why other than 'Mark Jacobs sux0rz cause he does and I said so', then yeah, I'm gonna shoot that person down. When I see a post lecture the community in general on how they should behave like a mother hen, I'm gonna shoot it down. I've had more than a good share of warnings and even had serious replies with no flames, trolls, or cursing in it deleted on here without so much as a thank you very much or a reaon as to why. 

As for the 'Suck It' comment I left, one time, on Massively, directed to the deliberate trolls on there who follwed every single thread and posted pointless, uninspired, uninformative troll posts - *cough*Dreliron*cough*, *cough*lordkrall88*cough*, among others there who were more than happy to shout down the game, MJ, the community, or anything that had to do with the game in general, well, when the game funded I didn't hesitate. It felt damned good, and I stand by it. Those people can indeed suck it as far as I'm concerned. 

It was a mild response compared to what I really wanted to say. It was out of respect for a few people in the CU Community that I didn't go further. The same can be said for certain trolls here who I'm not going to bother to call out, Meddyck NOT being one of them.

I was sorely tempted to write a nice rant with some choice words, happy to accept the ban I would have gotten for it. Looked forward to it in fact. A long time poster here had a thread dedicated to bashing the shit out of them from trolls who were more than happy to kick him when he was down. That thread is still open for comments. Yet, he came on here and thanked the moderators and this site for their (in my view, limited) support. Out of respect for him, I let it go, and didn't write the post I wanted to.

There is a very easily discernable difference between trolls and those with a different point of view or an idea of why something might not work. I've even reconsidered my point of view on more than one item that could make it into the game because of some posts here that were well written and explained. I look forward to more of those.

The whining in general, the fear and the 'concern' that CU isn't going to make it because you didn't do it MY way over and over and over again, CU sucked, CU's marketing sucked, MJ's games sucked, MJ sucked, blah blah blah blah blah. Those were troll posts, simple as that. Not well reasoned, not well thought out, nothing suggested in the way of improvement, nothing contributory, nothing researched or even founded in reality, they just plain out trolled. I have no problem calling it like I see it. I'm not going to change that for anyone.

It has nothing to do with being a fangirl, fanboy, or rabid. It has everything to do with having 2 cells in the grey matter that functionally rub together and applying that force and friction to something productive. The backers forums have a higher chance of success for that than anywhere else.

Amen. Well said.

  boxfetish

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 81

5/03/13 5:02:59 PM#67
Originally posted by Gyrus

- The Mark Jacobs is ALWAYS RIGHT AND THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION! group.

- The Internal Testers (so "I know something you don't know" group) - Later joined by the Alphas - then Beta 1s etc...  But the orignial Internals will alway have that "I have been here from the beggining" thing working for them.

- The data collectors and collators (They are already there - the Google.doc about the CU FAQ and "what we know so far")

- The "This is how it will be!" group (not based on fact - based on how they want the game to be) - Also the "do it THIS WAY" group.

- The "This isn't going to work" group (not always right / not always wrong)

- The realists

- The backers, followers and lurkers (this is the people who backed the project but really are just waiting for the game - however it turns out - they may not even log in much)

EDIT: And in this case possibly another group - the "you promised THIS (attached quotes) and this is what I PAID FOR!" group.

You forgot a group:

 

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years.

 

Mr. Jacobs is going to regret giving forum access at the $5 level.  He probably should have just offered his thanks and nothing else and saved forum access to those who pledged $25 or more.

  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3096

I am more than some of my parts

5/03/13 5:09:38 PM#68
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  boxfetish

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 81

5/03/13 5:32:59 PM#69
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

No, it's not.

 

Apparently, a $5 pledge gives read-only access to the backers forums.  This was not immediately apparent in the Kickstarter rewards descriptions, but is stated clearly in the PayPal pledging area.

 

  tinuelle

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Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 290

It's all about pushing the right buttons

5/03/13 5:40:47 PM#70
Originally posted by boxfetish
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

No, it's not.

 

Apparently, a $5 pledge gives read-only access to the backers forums.  This was not immediately apparent in the Kickstarter rewards descriptions, but is stated clearly in the PayPal pledging area.

 

Trolling the Trolls +5

  eyelolled

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I am more than some of my parts

5/03/13 5:53:47 PM#71
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by boxfetish
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

No, it's not.

 

Apparently, a $5 pledge gives read-only access to the backers forums.  This was not immediately apparent in the Kickstarter rewards descriptions, but is stated clearly in the PayPal pledging area.

 

Trolling the Trolls +5

well you're all safe, apparantly they won't accept a 3rd party, out of country check even if it's co-signed by Sven the janitor at the local Pizza barn (the check was wrote by his cousin Juergen for a wedding gift to Sven that didn't get used because he found out just before the wedding that his fiance Lucinda used to be call Ralph) Anyhow, I don't know what lengths I have to go through to give this title support, so I'm not going to bother anymore!   :P

 

 

Good luck with your game    :)

 

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  tinuelle

Novice Member

Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 290

It's all about pushing the right buttons

5/03/13 6:09:26 PM#72
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by boxfetish
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

No, it's not.

 

Apparently, a $5 pledge gives read-only access to the backers forums.  This was not immediately apparent in the Kickstarter rewards descriptions, but is stated clearly in the PayPal pledging area.

 

Trolling the Trolls +5

well you're all safe, apparantly they won't accept a 3rd party, out of country check even if it's co-signed by Sven the janitor at the local Pizza barn (the check was wrote by his cousin Juergen for a wedding gift to Sven that didn't get used because he found out just before the wedding that his fiance Lucinda used to be call Ralph) Anyhow, I don't know what lengths I have to go through to give this title support, so I'm not going to bother anymore!   :P

 

 

Good luck with your game    :)

 

Thanks. Also hope your check checks out fine. Give Ralph my regards.

  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3096

I am more than some of my parts

5/03/13 6:23:15 PM#73
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by boxfetish
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by boxfetish

-The I backed this game at the $5 level so I could make sure that I can join the official backers forum and continue to troll this game and it's backers for the next two years

Is it too late for me to become a $5 backer?

 

:P

No, it's not.

 

Apparently, a $5 pledge gives read-only access to the backers forums.  This was not immediately apparent in the Kickstarter rewards descriptions, but is stated clearly in the PayPal pledging area.

 

Trolling the Trolls +5

well you're all safe, apparantly they won't accept a 3rd party, out of country check even if it's co-signed by Sven the janitor at the local Pizza barn (the check was wrote by his cousin Juergen for a wedding gift to Sven that didn't get used because he found out just before the wedding that his fiance Lucinda used to be call Ralph) Anyhow, I don't know what lengths I have to go through to give this title support, so I'm not going to bother anymore!   :P

 

 

Good luck with your game    :)

 

Thanks. Also hope your check checks out fine. Give Ralph my regards.

oh I'll leave that to you. He/she is a CU backer. More his/her style of game.  Can't knock a person for finding a place where they feel they fit in.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

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  Gyrus

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Joined: 11/20/07
Posts: 2323

5/03/13 9:21:06 PM#74
Originally posted by MarkJacobs
Originally posted by Gyrus
...

 

Let's just say that what goes on in forums is often governed by moderators.  The problem that often occurs in developer forums is there is a tendancy to support the 'fans' (because after all - they are saying nice things!) at the expense of the critics.  The problem is, IMHO, in game development you need those critics.

So what I have seen in the past is the Developer Forums became a haven for the 'fans' and MMORPG.com forum became a haven for the 'trolls' (critics).

 

 

For what it's worth, I want our backers to voice their concerns/disagreements. I was in the comment section last night and I told the folks that we will have a strict "Don't be a jackass" policy. I will apply it to anyone who is not helping things along. I want to hear opinions from all sides but what I don't want nor will I tolerate, people flaming each other, us, making threats, sexual suggestions towards CSE staff, etc. Critics != Trolls usually. I just will not tolerate rude behavior on our developer forums. 

Thanks for your reply.

Then for what it's worth - I have a suggestion for you (you probably already know this anyway)

Endorsement from you, personally, could make a huge difference here.

So, if there is a critic on your forums who is actually providing useful feedback a post by you saying "Yes, I hear you, thank you for the feedback, it is a big help and we will look into it further...I always read your comments because you raise some good points." can change the attitude of the whole community.

 

Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  boxfetish

Novice Member

Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 81

5/03/13 11:11:19 PM#75
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by MarkJacobs
Originally posted by Gyrus
...

 

Let's just say that what goes on in forums is often governed by moderators.  The problem that often occurs in developer forums is there is a tendancy to support the 'fans' (because after all - they are saying nice things!) at the expense of the critics.  The problem is, IMHO, in game development you need those critics.

So what I have seen in the past is the Developer Forums became a haven for the 'fans' and MMORPG.com forum became a haven for the 'trolls' (critics).

 

 

For what it's worth, I want our backers to voice their concerns/disagreements. I was in the comment section last night and I told the folks that we will have a strict "Don't be a jackass" policy. I will apply it to anyone who is not helping things along. I want to hear opinions from all sides but what I don't want nor will I tolerate, people flaming each other, us, making threats, sexual suggestions towards CSE staff, etc. Critics != Trolls usually. I just will not tolerate rude behavior on our developer forums. 

Thanks for your reply.

Then for what it's worth - I have a suggestion for you (you probably already know this anyway)

Endorsement from you, personally, could make a huge difference here.

So, if there is a critic on your forums who is actually providing useful feedback a post by you saying "Yes, I hear you, thank you for the feedback, it is a big help and we will look into it further...I always read your comments because you raise some good points." can change the attitude of the whole community.

 

Constructive criticism is always more useful to developers than blind adoration.  The smart ones know this and will step in and make that clear if all criticism is being shut down by sycophants.

  Zinzan

Novice Member

Joined: 3/03/06
Posts: 1368

5/05/13 3:54:24 PM#76
Originally posted by MarkJacobs
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by colddog04
...

 

What I found disturbing more than people getting upset by the thread spam was the people that would cry out that the mods hated CU and they had an agenda against it. They claimed the mods created a culture of trolls. They blamed them for not allowing them to "attack the trolls." It got really ugly there more than a few times.

This is a tactic I warned MMORPG.com about... and I have some really interesting links on it... which I probably shouldn't post  13861848 / 4182013

 

Let's just say that what goes on in forums is often governed by moderators.  The problem that often occurs in developer forums is there is a tendancy to support the 'fans' (because after all - they are saying nice things!) at the expense of the critics.  The problem is, IMHO, in game development you need those critics.

So what I have seen in the past is the Developer Forums became a haven for the 'fans' and MMORPG.com forum became a haven for the 'trolls' (critics).

 

 

For what it's worth, I want our backers to voice their concerns/disagreements. I was in the comment section last night and I told the folks that we will have a strict "Don't be a jackass" policy. I will apply it to anyone who is not helping things along. I want to hear opinions from all sides but what I don't want nor will I tolerate, people flaming each other, us, making threats, sexual suggestions towards CSE staff, etc. Critics != Trolls usually. I just will not tolerate rude behavior on our developer forums. 

These aren't just alpha/beta testers, these are the people funding your game. 

While strong insults and abusive behaviour etc Im sure no one can have any real complaints with, you can't stop them complaining....they are paying for this game to be made, you have to listen to them. Gag them at your peril, you asked them for money, you have to put up with a certain amount more than you'd usually tolerate.

Caution about overly strong forum moderation, it could be the death of your game before it ever reaches beta.

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  BizkitNL

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Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2310

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5/05/13 4:04:06 PM#77
Originally posted by Zinzan
Originally posted by MarkJacobs
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by colddog04
...

 

What I found disturbing more than people getting upset by the thread spam was the people that would cry out that the mods hated CU and they had an agenda against it. They claimed the mods created a culture of trolls. They blamed them for not allowing them to "attack the trolls." It got really ugly there more than a few times.

This is a tactic I warned MMORPG.com about... and I have some really interesting links on it... which I probably shouldn't post  13861848 / 4182013

 

Let's just say that what goes on in forums is often governed by moderators.  The problem that often occurs in developer forums is there is a tendancy to support the 'fans' (because after all - they are saying nice things!) at the expense of the critics.  The problem is, IMHO, in game development you need those critics.

So what I have seen in the past is the Developer Forums became a haven for the 'fans' and MMORPG.com forum became a haven for the 'trolls' (critics).

 

 

For what it's worth, I want our backers to voice their concerns/disagreements. I was in the comment section last night and I told the folks that we will have a strict "Don't be a jackass" policy. I will apply it to anyone who is not helping things along. I want to hear opinions from all sides but what I don't want nor will I tolerate, people flaming each other, us, making threats, sexual suggestions towards CSE staff, etc. Critics != Trolls usually. I just will not tolerate rude behavior on our developer forums. 

These aren't just alpha/beta testers, these are the people funding your game. 

While strong insults and abusive behaviour etc Im sure no one can have any real complaints with, you can't stop them complaining....they are paying for this game to be made, you have to listen to them. Gag them at your peril, you asked them for money, you have to put up with a certain amount more than you'd usually tolerate.

Caution about overly strong forum moderation, it could be the death of your game before it ever reaches beta.

There is so much wrong in that reply, I don't even know where to begin.

I'lle just TL;DR: Rude behaviour should never be tolerated.

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  professornomos

Novice Member

Joined: 4/29/13
Posts: 67

5/05/13 4:12:15 PM#78
Originally posted by Zinzan
Originally posted by MarkJacobs

For what it's worth, I want our backers to voice their concerns/disagreements. I was in the comment section last night and I told the folks that we will have a strict "Don't be a jackass" policy. I will apply it to anyone who is not helping things along. I want to hear opinions from all sides but what I don't want nor will I tolerate, people flaming each other, us, making threats, sexual suggestions towards CSE staff, etc. Critics != Trolls usually. I just will not tolerate rude behavior on our developer forums. 

These aren't just alpha/beta testers, these are the people funding your game. 

While strong insults and abusive behaviour etc Im sure no one can have any real complaints with, you can't stop them complaining....they are paying for this game to be made, you have to listen to them. Gag them at your peril, you asked them for money, you have to put up with a certain amount more than you'd usually tolerate.

Caution about overly strong forum moderation, it could be the death of your game before it ever reaches beta.

 

Being a backer doesn't mean a person has the right to be a jerk.

 

Complaints are going to happen and  he's hardly talking  about gagging people

 

This game is going to succeed or fail not based on forum moderation.  This game will suceed or fail based on how well its designed. 

 

  Plastic-Metal

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/13
Posts: 423

5/05/13 4:24:57 PM#79

I'm also looking forward to the backer forums.  I eagerly look for the day I can escape from the cesspool of trolls that fester here.  It wasn't always a bad place to discuss, but when it started and the moderators issued warnings/bans against people that weren't trolling or baiting it formed a very bad taste in a large percentage of the CU fan base that posted here.

Then, of course, was the constant back and forth between the loyalists, realists/concerned posters and the trolls.  I'll probably never look back.

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  meddyck

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/18/08
Posts: 1134

5/05/13 4:29:53 PM#80
One thing I hope Mark will keep in mind is that just like here and on the Kickstarter comments, only a small percentage of the founders will participate heavily in the official forums. When he needs feedback on major design decisions, he needs to make sure he is also reaching those people who won't treat the forums as a second job. Whether that means emailing all 15,000 people a poll or at least emailing them to let them know they should go to the forum and respond to a poll or post or something else, he needs to get feedback beyond the few dozen or hundred people that will be posting on the official forum every day.

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