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5/02/13 12:51:31 PM#21

Here are the main problems of the game, which will sink it in a short time.


-LAG.  The game is twitch combat.  Lag effectively ends the enjoyment of the game right here.

-SNAIL GAME.  The company is very shady.  Just read the official forums for whatever scheme they are trying to pull today.

-TRANSLATIONS.  The game is beyond bad when it comes to translating it into English.  Anyone who says the following is full of garbage.


"This game is a nod to older MMOs where things were not explained.  That is what makes this game great".


Please....just stop.  You can make things as difficult or as easy to understand, the actual translation is the problem here. 




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5/02/13 12:59:18 PM#22
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Burntvet
And further, the article did not really mention how very gimped you are if you want to be a frequent player without a VIP sub, as compared to playing free. The difference and level of restriction is significant and deserves to be highlighted.

Nothing in life is free if you want the best experience, F2P is only free if you are happy being the gimp.


I don't even say that is wrong, but it AT LEAST deserved mention in the review, as it is a rather glaring flaw. And legitimate to point out: it is almost impossible to advance your toon as a "free player" unless you buy currency. Period. Thus, you either need to pay for the VIP sub, or pay for currency, there is no real way to play for free and get anywhere. And LOL @ comparing this game to EvE. No, just no.
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5/02/13 4:15:41 PM#23
I couldnt get past the boring combat in Beta. I was hoping for something interactive like Batman or Assassins Creed. But it was still just rolling dice.

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5/02/13 11:04:57 PM#24

The amount of ignorance surrounding this game is just baffling.

koboldfodder highlighted the real problems.


also the review by ragz45 is simply way better than this.


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5/03/13 3:21:21 AM#25

Yeah, I'd honestly have to say this review is pretty inaccurate.

Did you do school war, Escort, forbidden instance, kidnap successfully, steal script, patrol for spies, etc.

Did you explore the gossip quests and get random encounters?

You mention this game has so much more social than other mmo's and you only gave it a 7?  85% of the game is social... grouping with people and killen others, instances, and what not. School chat, guild chat, it's both there for help and conversation.

Innovation... how many games have events like steal script, robbery of escorts, and even putting real players as "killers" in instances to stop a group of other players from successfully killing a boss.

This game has so much depth and this review feels like only 2-3 hours were put in to the game.



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5/03/13 3:45:05 AM#26

Im glad that not only I think those AoW reviews lacklaster at best. She never even tried to write about PvP which is major focus of AoW. And 7 in innovative and social categories? Name me a single MMORPG since EVE Online that is more innovative and social.



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5/03/13 3:56:02 AM#27

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Alamareth

Somewhat fair, but the reviewer is still shockingly ignorant given the amount of time she's written about the game. 

Yes, the translation is sub-par so that lack of polish is justified.  However, to admit you were stuck on your school quests for ages really speaks more to you as a gamer.  Keep in mind, hundreds of players figured it out in a matter of hours in CBT2 and that was with translations that were even worse.

This game appeals to the old school gamer, where things are often simply not explained.  The reviewer simply isn't in that category, which speaks more to her quality as a gamer.  I just can't view this review as legitimate, but I realize that I'm a dying breed and in a niche category of gamer.

No, the game appeals to some.  I'm a very old school gamer and it doesn't appeal to me at all.  More accurately, the ignorance lies with the developer and publisher for putting out a half-baked piece and then blaming the gamer for wanting their hand held.  In the 90's you could do this, but that time is over.

Make excuses all you want, which is what blind fans do for their favorite game, but she was being generous with her scores.  Any other western game in this condition wouldn't be rated higher than a 5 or 6.

I find the review more legitimate than I do slanted rebuttals that want to paint a rosey picture of a game that needs another 6 months to a year of polish.  You may win points with your other fans, but with gamers looking for a title to play will more than likely see through this.

Games have become way to easy. Not just MMO's but every genre. Not because the core gamer (you know...REAL gamers) wanted it but because publishers wanted to earn as much as possible and the mainstream gamer gets clue less what to do and doesn't wanna figure out that if you stand in a hallway, with a door infront you and no where else to go to, that you need to enter that door. The mainstream gamer demands you make a giant arrow pointing the way for you to that door so they know they need to go there. This is not me as old school gamer being a blinded fanboy of a genre. This is me as a REAL gamer beign against the fact that games have to point out what to do and became super easy or the mainstream gamer freaks out, and that more and more mainstream gamers become game journalists who then begin to punish games for being to hard.


And with games becoming to easy they also became a lot shorter. Look at shooters, 4 - 6 hours is the standard these days on the hardest difficulty (where 10 years ago this was normal difficulty). I read reviews saying "its a lenghty game with 7 hours for the singleplayer campaign". 7 hours long? 10 years ago i read reviews about shooters "with 10 hours its on the short side". But the mainstream gamer needs to be pleased, needs to get to feel awesome and they feel that way if they can beat the game. So games become short and easy.


WoW vanilla you had to read your quest to know where to go. And part of the charm was going online to websites with maps helping you out where to go too if you got really stuck. Or ask in the general chat and have people help you out instead of calling you a noob. Few years later Activision takes charge over Blizzard and bam the game gets made mainstream friendly. Who needs to read quests when its all pointed out on your map and a arrow guiding you to your destination. Even the difficulty became a lot more easy. Area's you had to move careful when alone suddenly became a breeze to slash your way trough. Enemies who where hard to beat suddenly didn't do as much damage as they used too. Later they tried to make the game harder again but the damage had been done, most core players had left WoW already.


The lack of willing to explore a game is a bad thing. Thats not us being blinded fanboys. Its us gamers, who played games before it became the cool thing to do, hating that you don't experience a game anymore these days, you don't play the games anymore these days, you just press a few buttons and go from one objective to another while the game holds your hand the whole ride. It doesn't even let go eventually, nope. Sure there are some exceptions and some go very far in being hard as heck, but games in general became a dumb down product of what they used to be. Being stuck isn't bad, it means you have to find out how to get passed it, something gamers of this generation don't seem to understand including reviewers. "Oh im stuck, i tried it two times now and still no solution, game must be bugged or really cruel this is to hard". Go try mega man, that was a hard game. Go play old adventure games to create some thinking experience instead of everything being spelled out for you. As kid i got stuck so often and only then i used help if i had been stuck for hours at the same part and i was 12 or so, so why can't 18 year old gamers of these days do the same hm? Why do they need a constant help even in FPS games where a 12 year old, barely english understanding (im not native english) could play Police Quest, Space Quest, etc etc with only a guide when he got absolutely stuck for hours in a row and having a blast keep trying different things.


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5/03/13 4:20:20 AM#28
I had fun while playing this game but.....I work for a living and the game wanted 8-10 hours a day to do anything.I just couldnt get anything done in a 3 hour time span.I wasnt confused or bored i must note that.It is just a lifestyle they are trying to make out of a game and i want to have a life still.Im basically saying there is a overload small random stuff you must do for 2 hours at a time.This is what got me from playing sto.....long random bs of things that will make you dovote hours into doing just 1 small thing for your character.

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5/03/13 11:53:43 AM#29

Originally posted by koboldfodder


-LAG.  The game is twitch combat.  Lag effectively ends the enjoyment of the game right here.



The lag is only a problem for people not playing in the U.S. Since the game isn't has a European publisher don't dogged the game for being laggy when you are not the intented audience aka someone NOT in america.

I agree with everything else you said.


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5/03/13 4:27:06 PM#30

"For example, team cultivation (a skill building mini game) doesn’t actually require a team, so there’s no need to stand around begging for a group to get it done"

....feck...just logged out of this game, failing a TP on a mountain where i just got a random invite, finding myself in a 10 R group without knowing what to do ...Nedless to say they were all mad at me :/     But besides that game has a really good potential.

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it


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5/04/13 3:24:27 PM#31

I don't even play this game atm but wtf is this "Not everyone has the time or the patience to read through scads of text, assimilate and apply those many, many lessons." 


This is why MMO standards have gone to shit 


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5/04/13 3:34:54 PM#32
I really wanted to like the game but I suppose I am a product of the new MMO generation (even though Ive been playing since Asheron's Call in 1999).  I prefer systems and structures in place that are easy to use but hard to master.  AoW has way to much depth and it is too daunting to learn something complex before you can get to the fun.  I prefer jumping in, playing and being remotely knowledgeable at the start.  I do not like having to learn new thingsand commit to muscle memory things that should be and could be more easy.

Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!


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5/06/13 5:23:58 PM#33

I find that the gameplay section of this review zoomed in way too much on the "lost" feel for newbies of the game (which is definitely true btw), without mentioning the complexity of combat or the awesome duels / pvp / etc.

Otherwise, the review was fair.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!


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5/10/13 3:59:46 AM#34

I don't often like F2P games as the cash shop is usualy a Pay to Win . But this game I like, the look and feel of the game is nice and the sandbox elements to the game world is refreshing.


Yes it is a complex game when you delve deep into it but it is also rewarding.


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5/12/13 7:28:42 AM#35

Originally posted by Burntvet

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by Burntvet

And further, the article did not really mention how very gimped you are if you want to be a frequent player without a VIP sub, as compared to playing free. The difference and level of restriction is significant and deserves to be highlighted.

Nothing in life is free if you want the best experience, F2P is only free if you are happy being the gimp.


I don't even say that is wrong, but it AT LEAST deserved mention in the review, as it is a rather glaring flaw. And legitimate to point out: it is almost impossible to advance your toon as a "free player" unless you buy currency. Period. Thus, you either need to pay for the VIP sub, or pay for currency, there is no real way to play for free and get anywhere. And LOL @ comparing this game to EvE. No, just no.

I've got 2 f2p accounts that  are working on their 2nd inner skill.   Haven't bought a thing on either toon.  Please explain why you were unable to do this?


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6/12/13 4:34:56 PM#36

I couldn't uninstall this P2W garbage quickly enough.

I had a quest to plant a "Soybean" but the quest giver gave me "Soy bean".

I had a quest that required me to talk to the 2nd NPC standing a few pixels away, where the 1st NPC & quest giver says "Hello, you are the fine upstanding, bold and daring of the spirit in the strength of the muscles, I am the asking of the help? To the sky of the dragon in the night for the jewel in the plains to the sword through a valley of fire to reach for the cloud and of the falling to be in the drops of rain to the sands on the beach by the ocean of forever? Do you accept?" (spoiler alert: he wanted me to hand the 2nd NPC a piece of paper).

Yet the cash shop has "Welcome to the cash shop. Please select a form of payment."


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6/12/13 4:58:37 PM#37
Originally posted by iJustWant

I couldn't uninstall this P2W garbage quickly enough.

I had a quest to plant a "Soybean" but the quest giver gave me "Soy bean".

I had a quest that required me to talk to the 2nd NPC standing a few pixels away, where the 1st NPC & quest giver says "Hello, you are the fine upstanding, bold and daring of the spirit in the strength of the muscles, I am the asking of the help? To the sky of the dragon in the night for the jewel in the plains to the sword through a valley of fire to reach for the cloud and of the falling to be in the drops of rain to the sands on the beach by the ocean of forever? Do you accept?" (spoiler alert: he wanted me to hand the 2nd NPC a piece of paper).

Yet the cash shop has "Welcome to the cash shop. Please select a form of payment."

This says Age of Wushu in so many ways..

The localization can be a real problem. Coming from the CN script over to English will give some odd turnouts since CN is very metaphoric (sp) in it's meanings. Plus the English language has tons of slang itself..

Really though, if you can get past that you can have fun in the game. Just be ready to turne out all the bot spam. gold spam and the lack of Customer Support from Snail Games..

In fact even bringing up a Customer Service issue on their forums is a violation of their ToS on the forums and they will more than likely lock your thread before you get any meaningful response from them. Snail Games is really not to be trusted at this time with your hard earned money..

Point blank.

PM before you report at least or you could just block.


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6/12/13 6:48:23 PM#38
This game is very time consuming for a f2p player to truly enjoy the game or for working people who wants to do other things in life. The instances can take up to 4 hours or more depending on your group. Guild experience is almost what keeps everyone in this game in my opinion. Being in a very good guild will help you want to keep playing. However, the effort you put into building the guild is very time consuming also. With pvp possible anytime, you cannot even gather necessary materials to help build your guild. Then the lag doesn't help at all. Playing smoothly for one moment then seeing yourself jump to unbearable lag the next is a big put down. This makes pvp also impossible to do. Honestly, I believe this game will not last past a year or 2 due to Snail Games. Customer support is very horrible and if you complain enough they will just block you out completely. For such an innovative game to have horrible people running will be AoW downfall. 

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6/25/13 12:23:46 PM#39
In my opinion, this game is the best and worst a game could offer.
As a Max level (not fungal level) this game can seem a bit lacking.
The game requires you to grind for everything.
In general you need at least two to three hours per day for this game, to enjoy the full experience..

Each day the player needs to do the following to level.
5x school spying (about 9 minutes per run)
2x group cultivation (about 30 m minutes in total)
Farming materials ( 1 hour for 3 stacks of something)
Fight sects (9 to 30 minutes. 5 times for daily reward)
Instances (1 to 3 hours per run)

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6/25/13 12:28:31 PM#40

Never played the game and probably won't be playing.   So I will offer my opinion.  


Potentially great in MMO language to me means it will never be a great game.  Vanguard has been potentially great for years.  I expect Wushu will be potentially great a year from now also.  

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