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  Shadowguy64

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5/02/13 4:58:02 PM#21

I don't have sound at work to be certain, but I think this video is appropriate here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgxzjrodNvI

  mightyfc

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Joined: 8/23/06
Posts: 103

 
OP  5/02/13 4:58:27 PM#22
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc

holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

 

and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

 

if you dont buy your AD that is

 

epic fail imminent

 So what you're saying is because the AD isn't flowing like a river the developers are greedy? Stop wasting all your AD on so much random junk. Save the AD for better things. Have some self-control on your ingame wallet. You'd probably complain if gold wasn't dropping fast enough to pay for every last piece of equipment you needed.

 You need to learn that you'll have to make choices with the money you're getting. If you spend 10k a day and you only get 10k a day who's fault is it that you wasted it all on removing 1 gem from your gear? 

 

jesus lord christ and his 7 apostles... .. did you play ?, did you bother to fuse gems ?

 

all im saying is that its fuckin epic expensive , bags are just as bad if not worse, for what other reason than greed is stuff like this really fuckin expnsive .. its a vital gameplay mechanic, having 2 decent gems will give you as much extra stats as 4 pieces of gear....

the slots start to show up at 18+ basicly you cant afford to move 1 gem if you havent bought a starter kit or ad before that

 

 

its an obvious greed move.. beyond obvious, if you cant see that im just sorry for you, the big companys already own your mind.

 

 We have a bible totting fanatic here? Oh boy we're in for a real ride.... Yes I've played the game. I have a 18 Defender at the moment and I am not having these issues. However, I play F2P games more than most people do and I am already use to the way they work. So if the money isn't flowing I know to hold back on massively spending like an idiot (no offense). 

well here we have the problem.. 18..

 

you are just on the edge to getting a "pay up sucker" sign showed in your face, wait to 25-30

 

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 4974

5/02/13 5:00:36 PM#23
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc

holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

 

and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

 

if you dont buy your AD that is

 

epic fail imminent

 So what you're saying is because the AD isn't flowing like a river the developers are greedy? Stop wasting all your AD on so much random junk. Save the AD for better things. Have some self-control on your ingame wallet. You'd probably complain if gold wasn't dropping fast enough to pay for every last piece of equipment you needed.

 You need to learn that you'll have to make choices with the money you're getting. If you spend 10k a day and you only get 10k a day who's fault is it that you wasted it all on removing 1 gem from your gear? 

 

jesus lord christ and his 7 apostles... .. did you play ?, did you bother to fuse gems ?

 

all im saying is that its fuckin epic expensive , bags are just as bad if not worse, for what other reason than greed is stuff like this really fuckin expnsive .. its a vital gameplay mechanic, having 2 decent gems will give you as much extra stats as 4 pieces of gear....

the slots start to show up at 18+ basicly you cant afford to move 1 gem if you havent bought a starter kit or ad before that

 

 

its an obvious greed move.. beyond obvious, if you cant see that im just sorry for you, the big companys already own your mind.

 

 We have a bible totting fanatic here? Oh boy we're in for a real ride.... Yes I've played the game. I have a 18 Defender at the moment and I am not having these issues. However, I play F2P games more than most people do and I am already use to the way they work. So if the money isn't flowing I know to hold back on massively spending like an idiot (no offense). 

 So you're level18. You don't even need to think about enchants at those levels. Get a bit higher level and start doing some "real" dungeons and the more challenging solo quests at higher levels.

Let's see how you fair without enchanted gear.

Unless you enjoy spending 30 minutes and a ton of health pots per boss encounter. lol.

  Mtibbs1989

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2520

5/02/13 5:02:05 PM#24
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc

holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

 

and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

 

if you dont buy your AD that is

 

epic fail imminent

 So what you're saying is because the AD isn't flowing like a river the developers are greedy? Stop wasting all your AD on so much random junk. Save the AD for better things. Have some self-control on your ingame wallet. You'd probably complain if gold wasn't dropping fast enough to pay for every last piece of equipment you needed.

 You need to learn that you'll have to make choices with the money you're getting. If you spend 10k a day and you only get 10k a day who's fault is it that you wasted it all on removing 1 gem from your gear? 

 

jesus lord christ and his 7 apostles... .. did you play ?, did you bother to fuse gems ?

 

all im saying is that its fuckin epic expensive , bags are just as bad if not worse, for what other reason than greed is stuff like this really fuckin expnsive .. its a vital gameplay mechanic, having 2 decent gems will give you as much extra stats as 4 pieces of gear....

the slots start to show up at 18+ basicly you cant afford to move 1 gem if you havent bought a starter kit or ad before that

 

 

its an obvious greed move.. beyond obvious, if you cant see that im just sorry for you, the big companys already own your mind.

 

 We have a bible totting fanatic here? Oh boy we're in for a real ride.... Yes I've played the game. I have a 18 Defender at the moment and I am not having these issues. However, I play F2P games more than most people do and I am already use to the way they work. So if the money isn't flowing I know to hold back on massively spending like an idiot (no offense). 

well here we have the problem.. 18..

 

you are just on the edge to getting a "pay up sucker" sign showed in your face, wait to 25-30

 

 Here's the problem, you have spending issues and can't conserve the amount of AD you're spending. That has nothing to do with me just starting the game. I know not to spend like a mad man. I know you'll ignore my posts and still rant that the costs are "too damn high" but it's you not the game. Have fun ranting and ignoring your spending problems.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

  ragz45

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/01/08
Posts: 482

5/02/13 5:02:56 PM#25
Originally posted by mightyfc
thats the amount of rough you can convert to ad per day, all rewards are rough

You need to use the auction house more often.  I have about 3mil AD atm.

  Sovrath

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Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17085

5/02/13 5:06:25 PM#26
Originally posted by Grinnz

level 30 myself, and still have over 500k AD from my GON founders pack( only spent AD to speed up crafting)....have level 2-3 gems in every item nearly....

I don't bother unslotting gems, since they drop so often...take kits with you nearly every resource node carries runes. Don't know why you would spend AD on much of anything other than speeding stuff up oh and ID scrolls...

same here.

I don't unslot gems

gear drops a lot. And I just end up vendoring it.

I have yet to need to buy anything in the game.

  JeroKane

Elite Member

Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 4974

5/02/13 5:06:45 PM#27
Originally posted by ragz45
Originally posted by mightyfc
thats the amount of rough you can convert to ad per day, all rewards are rough

You need to use the auction house more often.  I have about 3mil AD atm.

 What level are you and what did you sell?

I mean.... I can make a couple million AD within 2 days if I want to. Just buy three 10-pack keys from the Zen store and put them on AH for 80k per key.

Other than that.... I would call bull! Unless you are already level60 and able to farm purple gear. As that's about the only ingame acquirable items that is worth a darn on the AH atm.

All the green and blue gear are worth crap, as the AH is litterly flooded with them.

You can kit your character out in full lvl24-26 blue gear for less than 20k AD.

  koboldfodder

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 367

5/02/13 5:11:45 PM#28

Though I have not played one second of the game, I would assume that the way to actually "play" the game is to plow ahead to max level THEN start working on your gear.  I mean, it's a basic themepark with level/loot....why waste any time on level 30 items when you will just get something better in a few levels.

 

That's pretty much the way every single themepark/level/loot game is played....

  Robokapp

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Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4574

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

5/02/13 5:18:11 PM#29
Originally posted by JeroKane

That's how F2P games work and why I always loathed them.

They sucker you in with easy normal and comfortable gameplay like you used to with P2P games.

Then after some levels you get hit with the WTF hammer and it's "Pay Up with real cash!" time.

f2p will save the industry from the evils of...f2p will save the industry. The Great Leader said so. 

  Aethaeryn

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Joined: 2/14/10
Posts: 1880

5/02/13 5:40:10 PM#30
Originally posted by mightyfc

holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

 

and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

 

if you dont buy your AD that is

 

epic fail imminent

I think for a casual player maybe it won't be so bad. . You seem to have leveled pretty quickly and will need to use more AD at a faster rate than someone who plays less often.   Maybe I am wrong and a casual player would get less AD.  It seems to me that they ahve limited the daily conversion so people who play very hard core might have to pay more.  

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  waynejr2

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5/02/13 5:44:05 PM#31
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

I don't have sound at work to be certain, but I think this video is appropriate here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgxzjrodNvI

 This could be appropriate too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HJH0IH3dc

  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 584

5/02/13 6:32:23 PM#32
Originally posted by mightyfc
thats the amount of rough you can convert to ad per day, all rewards are rough

Its not 10k its 24k rough AD into AD. I'm not sure were people are seeing this but its 24k a day.

  bestever

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5/02/13 6:34:33 PM#33
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Fendel84M
AD isn't bought with real money. So it's not asking you to pay real money.

no you buy zen for real money wich you use to buy AD with..

Thats if you can get a player to even buy it. It's pretty high price right now. Its not like you can just buy zen then exchange it for AD you have to put it on the AH. 

  sibs4455

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5/02/13 6:41:55 PM#34

Playing a level 39 cleric, I just leave the talisman in the item when i sell it.

As to buying any stuff of the ah, well there is no need too for the game is so easy, no deaths up to now and breezed through all content.

  bestever

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5/02/13 6:42:38 PM#35
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Grinnz

level 30 myself, and still have over 500k AD from my GON founders pack( only spent AD to speed up crafting)....have level 2-3 gems in every item nearly....

I don't bother unslotting gems, since they drop so often...take kits with you nearly every resource node carries runes. Don't know why you would spend AD on much of anything other than speeding stuff up oh and ID scrolls...

 

i get what you are saying, but when using +4-+5 gems you kinda want to remove em

 

and looking at the progression it seems r2-3 is for lvl 25ish and r4 30+, its getting expensive real fast and you got no option but to buy with real money to keep up if you wanna have a fine tuned toon

Not true. Just combine the lower ones into the better ones. Take four level +1 and turn them into a level +2. Then you can take four +2's and turn them into a +3. Its seems to me that you just want it now and complain its expensive when its not just play the game and get the things you need. It will take time but it you want it faster then pay. Just hold on to the low end stones and fuse them into the better ones, thats what I do.

I have 450k AD started with 650k. I've sold stuff to get back up to 650k. The only thing I've spent money on is bag space and bank space.

  strangiato2112

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5/02/13 8:11:04 PM#36

I would imagine the good foundry designers will make decent ADs.

My philosophy is to tip if its a good foundry AND I am doing the daily.  Im getting 1k, i can toss out 50.  Im sure Im not the only one that does this.

  User Deleted
5/02/13 8:16:25 PM#37
Originally posted by JeroKane

... you get hit with the WTF hammer ....

Hilarious.

 

I want to have a chance to use this expression.

  Boldyn

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5/02/13 8:20:58 PM#38
Originally posted by JeroKane

Unless you enjoy spending 30 minutes and a ton of health pots per boss encounter. lol.

This mmo has challenging gameplay? Ewww, we don't want that now do we...

  Grailer

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5/02/13 8:28:50 PM#39
This game makes me miss playing RIFT .
  winter

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5/02/13 8:35:05 PM#40
Originally posted by mightyfc
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by mightyfc

holy shit just reached 30 and just the costs from removing /attaching gemsso far is bringing me on my knees

its like 3-4k  Ad to remove a rank 1 gem, and you can get 10k ad per day... had a r3 gem that costed me 9k!! to remove when i switched gear, 1 day for 1 gem... what ? ive already used up almost 650k ad (now take that and divide by 10k per day) on various shit

 

and no fuckin ad from quests yet just gold wich is of little to no use , just a few pots and shit, some worthless gear that ull find better before you can use anyhow

 

if you dont buy your AD that is

 

epic fail imminent

 So what you're saying is because the AD isn't flowing like a river the developers are greedy? Stop wasting all your AD on so much random junk. Save the AD for better things. Have some self-control on your ingame wallet. You'd probably complain if gold wasn't dropping fast enough to pay for every last piece of equipment you needed.

 You need to learn that you'll have to make choices with the money you're getting. If you spend 10k a day and you only get 10k a day who's fault is it that you wasted it all on removing 1 gem from your gear? 

 

jesus lord christ and his 7 apostles... .. did you play ?, did you bother to fuse gems ?

 

all im saying is that its fuckin epic expensive , bags are just as bad if not worse, for what other reason than greed is stuff like this really fuckin expnsive .. its a vital gameplay mechanic, having 2 decent gems will give you as much extra stats as 4 pieces of gear....

the slots start to show up at 18+ basicly you cant afford to move 1 gem if you havent bought a starter kit or ad before that

 

 

its an obvious greed move.. beyond obvious, if you cant see that im just sorry for you, the big companys already own your mind.

 

 Ummm maybe its to pay the programmers, artist, and developers that have worked on this game for the last 4 years and contibue to do so? nah they all work for free right, maybe its to keep the game online line so people lie you can download and play it for free, nah. Eveyone knows MMO's are made for pennies, just for your entertainment.

   Seroiusly  some people put no thought at all into their post or just live to bitch and moan. I'll take my ban now and spend the time away from MMORPG.com playing

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