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  LordMatsu

Novice Member

Joined: 8/15/11
Posts: 6

5/02/13 2:04:01 AM#41
I feel disregarding PvE alltogether will be more detrimental than better.  But we'll see about a year after it's released and see how they're holding up. 
  Caldrin

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Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4138

5/02/13 2:41:08 AM#42
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by MidBoss

2~ years of the most ridiculous hype cult I've ever seen.

Might be time to go back into MMO news blackout.

Not ridiculous at all once you take a second to realize that these people are starving for an MMO. Hardcore MMORPG veterans have not had a big name veteran/company make a game for them in 9 years.

How would you be if for 9 years you watched your favorite genre crumble to ruin?

If this was the mmo that they are looking for with the team behind then I truely feel sorry for the future of this genre.  Everything about this project reeks of mediocrity imo.  From the lack of no PvE to the rushed focus to crowd source a product with no tech demo involved.

 

Good luck I suppose, game may see light of day in 2-3 years until then what are you going to do?  Continue your incessent raging against anything considerded popular or mainstream?

Are you..trolling?

There is PvE, as well as many other things in the game. And you can't develop a game before you get funding for it. They produced a working prototype in like, 8 days.

 

There is NPC guards and NPC merchant but there is no PvE questing, leveling or traditional PvE systems.  The thing that ALL RPG's are built upon!!!!!!  While I enjoy RvR the most out of the 3 typical MMO PvP designs ( others being FFA & Instanced BG) having a game based entirely on PvP is not something I want to play.

Progression is based off pvp yes.. but there will be PVE.. they have have quests attached to them as well but you wont get xp jsut items used for crafting and so on..

Anyway yes this game is not for everyone, its a niche game and MJ knew this from the start. I like the sound of waht the guy is saynig.. Now we just have to wait hehe.

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  Caldrin

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Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4138

5/02/13 2:45:33 AM#43
Originally posted by expresso

Bah I am dissappinted - happy for the avid fanboys that have taken over this site for the last month, but sad cus this just mean we'll see more people with the more than enough funds to create a game use kickstarter instead, kickstarter is now nothing but big pot of free money rather than a platform to support struggling developers.  

 

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

 

What how is that the case?

STE are a new company with very little money.. Kickstarter is perfect for that type of company and I believe what its there for, to help kickstart new companies and their projects.

Sure MJ might have a bit of capital himself and he is putting money into the game but thats not the point.

STE is a new indie company and kickstarter was the perfect option for them, no AAA publisher would even look twice at this type of game.

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  DocBrody

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Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 1479

5/02/13 4:11:47 AM#44
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by expresso

Bah I am dissappinted - happy for the avid fanboys that have taken over this site for the last month, but sad cus this just mean we'll see more people with the more than enough funds to create a game use kickstarter instead, kickstarter is now nothing but big pot of free money rather than a platform to support struggling developers.  

 

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

 

 

Hello,

I agree with this statement, very disappointing and a sad day for the reputation and spirit behind Kickstarter.

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

Cheers

DocB

  Rhazmuz

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/29/12
Posts: 208

They say you are what you eat.. But I dont remember eating a fu**ing legend!

5/02/13 4:19:09 AM#45
Originally posted by DocBrody
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by expresso

Bah I am dissappinted - happy for the avid fanboys that have taken over this site for the last month, but sad cus this just mean we'll see more people with the more than enough funds to create a game use kickstarter instead, kickstarter is now nothing but big pot of free money rather than a platform to support struggling developers.  

 

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

 

 

Hello,

I agree with this statement, very disappointing and a sad day for the reputation and spirit behind Kickstarter.

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

Cheers

DocB

These statements are pretty stupid.

Kickstarter is there for all to use, its up to the community to decide what to back and what not to back. The people decide, there really is no one to blame or point fingers at. just enjoy all the (hopefullt) good games we are getting because of kickstarter that would otherwise probably not have seen the light of day.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/02/13 4:34:25 AM#46
Where were all the rip kickstarter posts when for example

Wasteland
Star citizen
Elite 4
The Planescape sequel

Etc... were doing the rounds.
All established titles being built by millionaires

Oh yeah that's right mmorpg.com hypocrisy strikes again, its only rip ls when its for a mmo that isn't if the sort you like.

Be interesting to see if we get "haleluja kick starter born again" threads from the sake people if say someone kick starts a spiritual successor to swg.
  DocBrody

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 1479

5/02/13 4:35:04 AM#47
Originally posted by Rhazmuz
Originally posted by DocBrody
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by expresso

Bah I am dissappinted - happy for the avid fanboys that have taken over this site for the last month, but sad cus this just mean we'll see more people with the more than enough funds to create a game use kickstarter instead, kickstarter is now nothing but big pot of free money rather than a platform to support struggling developers.  

 

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

 

 

Hello,

I agree with this statement, very disappointing and a sad day for the reputation and spirit behind Kickstarter.

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

Cheers

DocB

These statements are pretty stupid.

Kickstarter is there for all to use, its up to the community to decide what to back and what not to back. The people decide, there really is no one to blame or point fingers at. just enjoy all the (hopefullt) good games we are getting because of kickstarter that would otherwise probably not have seen the light of day.

 No, these statements are perfectly right.

Kickstarter was supposed for people who have no money for their project, and they used to worked hard towards a prototype BEFORE starting a campaign.

This project creator has money and no prototype, plus spamming methods making it look like a viral project.

RIP Kickstarter indeed

  DocBrody

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 1479

5/02/13 4:38:35 AM#48
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Where were all the rip kickstarter posts when for example

Wasteland
Star citizen
Elite 4
The Planescape sequel

Etc... were doing the rounds.
All established titles being built by millionaires

Oh yeah that's right mmorpg.com hypocrisy strikes again, its only rip ls when its for a mmo that isn't if the sort you like.

Be interesting to see if we get "haleluja kick starter born again" threads from the sake people if say someone kick starts a spiritual successor to swg.

 the hypcrisy is in your post, those projects had gameplay to show and were at development stage where they already put tons of money in.

You think that developement didn´t cost millions prior to the campaign?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIrqhixmwXc

Chris Roberts is a man of honor, unlike others

 

 

 

 

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

5/02/13 4:43:38 AM#49
Lol elite 4 had gameplay to show?!?!
Garriots new ultima game?


Will be watching these boards very closely just in case raph koster for instance does a kickstarter. See if any of the rip kickstarter people suddenly think kickstarter is great again.
  Rhazmuz

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/29/12
Posts: 208

They say you are what you eat.. But I dont remember eating a fu**ing legend!

5/02/13 4:44:24 AM#50
Originally posted by DocBrody
Originally posted by Rhazmuz
Originally posted by DocBrody
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by expresso

Bah I am dissappinted - happy for the avid fanboys that have taken over this site for the last month, but sad cus this just mean we'll see more people with the more than enough funds to create a game use kickstarter instead, kickstarter is now nothing but big pot of free money rather than a platform to support struggling developers.  

 

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

 

 

Hello,

I agree with this statement, very disappointing and a sad day for the reputation and spirit behind Kickstarter.

R.I.P < 06.02.2013 > Kickstarter

Cheers

DocB

These statements are pretty stupid.

Kickstarter is there for all to use, its up to the community to decide what to back and what not to back. The people decide, there really is no one to blame or point fingers at. just enjoy all the (hopefullt) good games we are getting because of kickstarter that would otherwise probably not have seen the light of day.

 No, these statements are perfectly right.

Kickstarter was supposed for people who have no money for their project, and they used to worked hard towards a prototype BEFORE starting a campaign.

This project creator has money and no prototype, plus spamming methods making it look like a viral project.

RIP Kickstarter indeed

Where is this stated? Or is this merely your own perception of the function kickstarter serves?

As I said, Kickstarter is there for anyone to put up their project, it is then for the community to decide wheter or not that project should be funded.

Please dont try and act like some moral defender of kickstarter, it is purely driven by peoples own choices and therefore such sillyness is not needed.

Just be happy we are getting the games people want. I am yet to see any negative affect of kickstarter and the games being funded.

  Xthos

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/18/10
Posts: 2649

5/02/13 4:46:31 AM#51
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol elite 4 had gameplay to show?!?!
Garriots new ultima game?


Will be watching these boards very closely just in case raph koster for instance does a kickstarter. See if any of the rip kickstarter people suddenly think kickstarter is great again.

I only wish Raph would get some of the old crew together again and come out with something.

  DocBrody

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 1479

5/02/13 4:50:16 AM#52
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol elite 4 had gameplay to show?!?!
Garriots new ultima game?


Will be watching these boards very closely just in case raph koster for instance does a kickstarter. See if any of the rip kickstarter people suddenly think kickstarter is great again.

 "lol" ?

yes, they had gameplay to show.

Elite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9k7E4ngFw

Shroud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWgCjaqh8tw

 

show me a similar video from CU? Did I miss it?

  BillMurphy

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/28/06
Posts: 1723

5/02/13 4:56:38 AM#53
Originally posted by Wakygreek
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Gents, news articles trump threads.  There are forum posts tied to news articles, not the other way around.  :)  

 

Thanks for the clarification Bill and Aerowyn, I think this is a case where i typed first and thought it out afterwards, my apologies.

No worries.  This news and features part of the forum is exclusively for threads tied to articles.  And yes, we often get our tips from you guys.  :)

  Caldrin

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4138

5/02/13 5:06:34 AM#54
Originally posted by DocBrody
 

 No, these statements are perfectly right.

Kickstarter was supposed for people who have no money for their project, and they used to worked hard towards a prototype BEFORE starting a campaign.

This project creator has money and no prototype, plus spamming methods making it look like a viral project.

RIP Kickstarter indeed

No kickstarter is there to kickstart projects simple as that.

It is a good way for indie devs to get funding for games that would probally never see the light of day due to AAA publishers only wanting to do wow clones thinking they can take some of the wow pie..

So MJ has a bit of cash and he is putting cash into the business and probally already had before the kickstarter. Why should this stop him using kickstarter to get the rest of the funds needed for the game?

 

Anyway read this

http://www.kickstarter.com/hello?ref=nav

At no point does it say you can only use kickstarer if your a poor fat kid living in your mums basment..

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http://dragon3d.webs.com/

  Dony07

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 15

5/02/13 6:10:28 AM#55
$2,183,267 reached and 4 more hours to go.
  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5400

5/02/13 6:38:29 AM#56

Congrats. It will be interesting to see what more gets added and what gets cut over the next few years.

Game development is a rollercoaster, and after several years you the end result could be anywhere from better than promised to something significantly worse, yes the scale of variance is that wide.

This is the reality of game development.

 

  Mithrundir

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Posts: 297

5/02/13 8:05:08 AM#57
Been up for the past day on their live stream, can't wait!

Dozens of MMO's, RTS's, FPS's, etc.

  Dakirn

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5/02/13 4:15:36 PM#58

I was a bit disappointed in a sense that now that it's funded, we're going to get multiple Camelot Unchained news posts every day while the rest of the games in the genre barely get mentioned.

 

And before I get jumped on, just look back to how many articles there were before it even hit kickstarter. MMORPG didn't do that for any other game.  I would bet there are as many articles about it as some released/late beta games.

 

Well, congrats to those who put money into it.  I really do hope it's a game that those who did will like.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

5/02/13 4:44:39 PM#59
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Nephaerius
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Mark Jacobs should have been a used car salesman.

 

Anyways, here's to hoping Kickstarter goes back to allowing projects to become real when they otherwise wouldn't, and hoping that this dark day in ethical game development hasn't set a precedent.

 

Enjoy the next few years, and maybe your hopes will come true.  Not that there's any guarantee they will, of course.

QFT

Haha what? Where are all these troll accounts coming from?

 

Kickstarter is the only reason this game is being made. There was nothing different between this project, and Wasteland's Kickstarter, except that THIS project had much more to show than Wasteland did.

Yeah, I clearly created a Troll account judging by the years of difference in our regdates.

Obvious mistakes aside, it isn't the only way this game could have been made.  He could have gotten a favorable deal with a publisher.  Publishers use their funds wisely - it's their entire business.  If his project wasn't worth it, that should have been a huge freaking red flag to Kickstarter backers.  Their blind fanboyism kept them from seeing it.

I feel bad for starting indie developers who have to be lumped in with the likes of this shady panhandler.

El Psy Congroo

  User Deleted
5/03/13 10:57:57 AM#60
Originally posted by rgeworkan

So much hate on mmorpg.. Why cant you guys just be happy for ppl that want to see this game be made and be at rest with it?

You dont have to play it no1 is forcing you just say gratz CSE and leave it be.. Why troll and hate all around here?

 

Um, because some people are unhappy about it and choose to voice their opinion...you know, just like all the opinions gushing over it here on MMORPG.com. 

These forums are for everyone, regardless of their love/hate for a game. 

You want a CSE love-in free from people questioning the game? You'll get that soon enough. The dedicated forums will be online in the near future. 

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