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  Yamota

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4/30/13 5:10:12 PM#121
Originally posted by jalexbrown
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Squeak69
 

actully alot of people hate gold seller the percentage of people that use them is small just like the percentage of peple that use microtransaction on regular are sm,all but that small number makes up for the ones that dont like it.

its not that people ignore it or accept it, its that there isnt anything that can really be done about it beyound what gmae companies already do.

Do you have proof? Any evidence? Research shows that more players play F2P game than P2P. If so, they certainly don't mind RMT, because they can easily refuse to play.

There is nothing can be done because that is what the market wants. What companies want is irrelevant. if no one play those games, and use RMT, companies won't be doing it.

 

your for real. . . . . more people play games that are free then people play games that they have to pay for . . . . . . . do i really need to point put the diffrence between what you just said and what we are tlaking about,

heck with it, ok most of those people are doing just that PLAYING FOR FREE they dont use the cash shop, and they dont put any money into the game. the amount of people that actualy use money is oh hell i dont rember the current average so ill make up a number lets say less then 50% now out of that 50% percent companies are getting more then they did out of P2P why because well lots of reason, but that other 50% pay nothing, most of these people would not play a game online if they had to pay for it, this is the reason for the giant boom in MMOs since F2P started.

so basicly saying more people play game for free then people play games they have to pay for kinda gose without saying and really dousnt prove anypoint on this subject.

we are talking about why people complain about cash shops but dont comp[lain about gold sellers.

please do not turn this into a P2P vs F2P thread i have had enough of those.

No . you said, and I quote "its not that people ignore it or accept it"

If they don't accept it, why would they play games with it? You simply have no proof about people hating, or not accepting RMT.

(And no, i am not talking about the amount of people who pays .. because research shows that most don't).

let me see if i understand this correctly your telling me that just because people play a game that has gold seller in it and still play it means they accept it?

so that means that if i dont like something i should ignore a good game, that make no sence at all, it is only natral for people to not bother with a minor inconvenice when they are doing something they enjoy,

and dont tell me that gold seller and micro transaction are the same thing cause they are a world apart.

your argument gets more confuseing to understand, and lless to the point, could you make a clear statement. on what point your trying to make here?

How, exactly, are gold sellers and microtransactions "worlds apart"?

Eh, because one is an integral part of not only the game but the design of the game where as the other is a by product, in no way part of the game?

From a buyers point of view, they might seem the same; you pay real money and get virtual items. But from a game design point of view, they are indeed worlds apart.

  VengeSunsoar

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4/30/13 5:45:42 PM#122

Naw.  A mt is an mt whether it is sanctioned by the devs or not.  Same thing for the same reasons.

All you can discuss is whether you like it and whether the devs use it or not.

But it is still a microtransaction. 

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Squeak69

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4/30/13 5:46:38 PM#123
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Naw.  A mt is an mt whether it is sanctioned by the devs or not.  Same thing for the same reasons.

All you can discuss is whether you like it and whether the devs use it or not.

But it is still a microtransaction. 

no its not that logic is more then a little flawed,

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  VengeSunsoar

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4/30/13 6:11:18 PM#124
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Naw.  A mt is an mt whether it is sanctioned by the devs or not.  Same thing for the same reasons.

All you can discuss is whether you like it and whether the devs use it or not.

But it is still a microtransaction. 

no its not that logic is more then a little flawed,

I would say mine is spot on and yours is flawed.

A microtransaction is paying RL money for in game things. 

Nothing in that says anything about who gets the money.

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Loktofeit

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4/30/13 6:19:14 PM#125
Originally posted by maplestone
Originally posted by koboldfodder

EQ, Ultima Online and Asherons Call, the three main MMOs that started the entire genre, did not have any microtransactions.  

Ultima Online developed microtransactions when they gave promotional items tied to a box in stores and realized that existing players were buying copies, even multiple copies, of the box just for the promotion codes.  I'm not convinced that even EA  realized they had added microtransactions at first.

Not only did they know they had it, but it was the reason for the site UOGameCodes.com and the the design decision to make both the items and services tradable in-game tokens.

  Loktofeit

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4/30/13 6:23:06 PM#126
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Naw.  A mt is an mt whether it is sanctioned by the devs or not.  Same thing for the same reasons.

All you can discuss is whether you like it and whether the devs use it or not.

But it is still a microtransaction. 

no its not that logic is more then a little flawed,

I would say mine is spot on and yours is flawed.

A microtransaction is paying RL money for in game things. 

Nothing in that says anything about who gets the money.

Agreed. Evident in the fact that dev/company-sanctioned rmt is a term that has been used for 6 or 7 years to distinguish one from the other.

  nariusseldon

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4/30/13 8:39:30 PM#127
Originally posted by Squeak69
 

let me see if i understand this correctly your telling me that just because people play a game that has gold seller in it and still play it means they accept it?

Yeh. That is what "accept" means. They are not bothered enough to go somewhere else.

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