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  davc123

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OP  4/29/13 8:17:56 AM#1

i want see   game successfully  like wow  whit great combat style and  open world pvp +pve ...

 

i think i wrong post this must be at

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  Wraithone

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4/29/13 8:21:54 AM#2
Originally posted by davc123
i want see   game successfully  like wow  whit great combat style and  open world pvp +pve ...

Possible, but unlikely.  Blizzards World of Warcraft was what is known as a "perfect storm".  It hit at just the right time, with the right content, the right marketing, and the right reputation.  I seriously doubt we will see that again, any time soon.  Especially with how fragmented the gaming audience is becoming.

  Muke

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4/29/13 8:23:18 AM#3
Originally posted by davc123
i want see   game successfully  like wow  whit great combat style and  open world pvp +pve ...

you could try some asian grinders.

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  ZedTheRock

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4/29/13 8:25:11 AM#4

WoW was an anomoly and it isn't a very good game.  In fact if WoW was re-released tomorrow with a different name but kept the same core design it would fail.  Proof is the last 3-4 WoW clones if you don't believe me.

 

Whether a game will ever compete with WoW is a big NO.  Because of its anomolous beginings WoW wil lalways remain WoW.  Other games will do good to make their own game and try to draw players from elsewhere to try it out.  My money is on TESO.

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  davc123

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OP  4/29/13 8:30:17 AM#5
Originally posted by ZedTheRock

WoW was an anomoly and it isn't a very good game.  In fact if WoW was re-released tomorrow with a different name but kept the same core design it would fail.  Proof is the last 3-4 WoW clones if you don't believe me.

 

Whether a game will ever compete with WoW is a big NO.  Because of its anomolous beginings WoW wil lalways remain WoW.  Other games will do good to make their own game and try to draw players from elsewhere to try it out.  My money is on TESO.

i dont say i want same game as wow  because i dont like wow never played but i want  successful like wow 

a lot of games is boring  after max lvl

i want game for long time dont want change  game every 3-5monts -.-

all " good  " games failed gw2 /swtor /tera /rift...

  Wraithone

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4/29/13 8:48:40 AM#6
Originally posted by davc123
Originally posted by ZedTheRock

WoW was an anomoly and it isn't a very good game.  In fact if WoW was re-released tomorrow with a different name but kept the same core design it would fail.  Proof is the last 3-4 WoW clones if you don't believe me.

 

Whether a game will ever compete with WoW is a big NO.  Because of its anomolous beginings WoW wil lalways remain WoW.  Other games will do good to make their own game and try to draw players from elsewhere to try it out.  My money is on TESO.

i dont say i want same game as wow  because i dont like wow never played but i want  successful like wow 

a lot of games is boring  after max lvl

i want game for long time dont want change  game every 3-5monts -.-

all " good  " games failed gw2 /swtor /tera /rift...

Well... Good luck with that.   I seriously doubt we are going to see much difference in the typical format for years.  These games are simply too expensive to create, for those with the money to allow major risks to be taken.  But without those risks, games will likely remain in the standard format for years.  One possibility might be the Kickstarter games, but given development times, its going to be several years before the big name ones are even available.

A lot of people seem to focus on games coming out of Asia, but their suits follow pretty much the same business rules, and are just as risk adverse, as those in the west.  Which explains much of what wev've seen from that area for the last few years.  I wish this wasn't the case, but that appears to be our current situation.

  ShakyMo

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4/29/13 9:10:00 AM#7
Too many mmos are "successfully like wow"
  furbans

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4/29/13 9:29:37 AM#8
Originally posted by ZedTheRock

WoW was an anomoly and it isn't a very good game.  In fact if WoW was re-released tomorrow with a different name but kept the same core design it would fail.  Proof is the last 3-4 WoW clones if you don't believe me.

 

Whether a game will ever compete with WoW is a big NO.  Because of its anomolous beginings WoW wil lalways remain WoW.  Other games will do good to make their own game and try to draw players from elsewhere to try it out.  My money is on TESO.

Not a good game and yet typically evey MMOer has player WoW for at least more than a year and how it's the only MMO that has maintained subs in the millions or how they have the largest conventions and whole bunch of other stuff.

The hate on WoW never gets old, but the fact is that WoW is a great MMO.  Problem is people got tired of the game which is what naturally happens as people move on but they continually hate on WoW most likely because WoW spoiled them.

One of the reasons why other games fail is that they lack many of the features that WoW possesses.  They are like a 1/2 or 3/4 of WoW.  Sure they bring some new stuff to the table but far and wide they are missing a lot of features.

If Blizzard did a WoW reboot like ANet did with GW2 I'd guarantee that droves of customers will flock to the title, even those that piss on WoW's name, in the numbers of which would put GW2 numbers to shame I'd wager.

But yes WoW is an anomoly and its success won't be seen again, unless they make a WoW reboot whose reception is comparable to GW2.

  botrytis

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4/29/13 9:32:26 AM#9
Originally posted by furbans
Originally posted by ZedTheRock

WoW was an anomoly and it isn't a very good game.  In fact if WoW was re-released tomorrow with a different name but kept the same core design it would fail.  Proof is the last 3-4 WoW clones if you don't believe me.

 

Whether a game will ever compete with WoW is a big NO.  Because of its anomolous beginings WoW wil lalways remain WoW.  Other games will do good to make their own game and try to draw players from elsewhere to try it out.  My money is on TESO.

Not a good game and yet typically evey MMOer has player WoW for at least more than a year and how it's the only MMO that has maintained subs in the millions or how they have the largest conventions and whole bunch of other stuff.

The hate on WoW never gets old, but the fact is that WoW is a great MMO.  Problem is people got tired of the game which is what naturally happens as people move on but they continually hate on WoW most likely because WoW spoiled them.

One of the reasons why other games fail is that they lack many of the features that WoW possesses.  They are like a 1/2 or 3/4 of WoW.  Sure they bring some new stuff to the table but far and wide they are missing a lot of features.

If Blizzard did a WoW reboot like ANet did with GW2 I'd guarantee that droves of customers will flock to the title, even those that piss on WoW's name, in the numbers of which would put GW2 numbers to shame I'd wager.

But yes WoW is an anomoly and its success won't be seen again, unless they make a WoW reboot whose reception is comparable to GW2.

I am an MMO'er and only played WoW in BETA and not after - did not like it.

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  davc123

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OP  4/29/13 10:15:58 AM#10
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Too many mmos are "successfully like wow"

which ??

  Skuz

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4/29/13 10:20:10 AM#11

Right time, right place, right "pre-existing userbase", right "established reputation as developers".

 

An anomoly as other posters have said, could another such confluence of circumstances happem? of course, but don't expect it anytime soon & certainly not in the present economic climate.

  hell_fire_69

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4/29/13 10:22:12 AM#12

There are many games out there that try to compete and change around the formula a little bit and were successful such as Guild Wars 2 and Swtor but never kept a mass community as WoW.

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  Muke

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4/29/13 10:22:31 AM#13

define 'success'.

Financially or population-healthy or other?

financially- probably no mmo anytime soon, because WOW was a fluke, came at the right time for casual arcade MMO players who wanted a easy-to-get-into game.

population healthy- there are games out there 8y and older that are financially stable, woth growing populations and adding content regularly like it's a new game.

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  TheCrow2k

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4/29/13 10:25:50 AM#14
WoW was a perfect storm scenario unlikely to re-occur simply due to the fact that many of the contributing conditions no longer exist. is there is a lit of choice for MMO fans now that there was not back then, most modern MMO's are as accesible as WOW if not moreso, back then most MMO 's were not. Etc
  User Deleted
4/29/13 10:27:05 AM#15

WoW isn't a success story anymore... it's an example of the sad state of gaming these days.  Having subscribers doesn't mean the game is a success... it just means there's nothing better out there atm.

 

Success is when you run home from work to log in to play and stay logged in until the wee hours of the night without even realizing it.  Success is not logging in because you are bored and have nothing better to do.  Let's see, paint the house or do dailies? I think I will do dailies.

 

You don't want WoW's "success"... you want a game that you will sell your left kidney to play each and every day no matter what the costs.  There aren't any games out there like that anymore.  If same-old same old is considered a success... then I want no part of it.

  udon

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4/29/13 10:27:43 AM#16
Originally posted by davc123

i want see   game successfully  like wow  whit great combat style and  open world pvp +pve ...

 

i think i wrong post this must be at

The Pub at MMORPG.COM

I doubt it.  The market is too fragmented for a new game to capture the knds of box sales and sub's that WoW got.  Wow was the right combination of timing, polish, gameplay and marketing that I just don't see anything repeating.

It's like asking if we could ever get anouther music player as popular as the first ipod or smart phone as popular as the first Iphone.  Those items where as much about filling a missing market need as anything else.  Now that the market is saturated with them it just isn't possible to repeat it.  

That's not to say a game can't be wildly successful just not on the same level as WoW.  I think developers are starting to get that and moving away from the trying to beat WoW at it's own game which is a good thing.

  Skullagrim

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4/29/13 10:37:39 AM#17

GW2 is the only game that comes close. IMO

 

After max leveling all but elementalist and mesmer. I took a month off. Now I am back on and enjoying it once again. Mesmer is a fun class. :)

  Boardwalker

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4/29/13 10:58:44 AM#18

Will another MMORPG ever be as successful as WoW was (and is)? Probably not, for all the reasons stated above. But that isn't 100% for sure. You never know.

 

The best thing about this thread is reading posts by WoW haters. Their tears are delicious. I don't play WoW anymore, but I recognize that it is a very good game and is still quite popular. These haters just make themselves look foolish.

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  Skooma2

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4/29/13 11:06:26 AM#19
No MMO will ever be as popular as WoW because you can play it on an Etch-a-Sketch, which means mommy and daddy do not have to buy junior a new rig just to increase graphics for other games.

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  davc123

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OP  4/29/13 11:12:20 AM#20
Originally posted by hell_fire_69

There are many games out there that try to compete and change around the formula a little bit and were successful such as Guild Wars 2 and Swtor but never kept a mass community as WoW.

stwor failed thats why goes  f2p and gw2 not long  time successful maybe 5months max   

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