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  xKopogerox

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OP  4/28/13 6:09:22 PM#1

Watching game companies PvP against each other and seeing them face the obvious choice of merge or extinction, it's just lovely.

My prediction is the game company that will outshine the rest in the long run will also featiure a PvP system in their product that will just be on another whole level.

Look at Blizzard for example, one of the best gaming companies on the market and despite that they still decided to merge with Activision. World of Warcraft PvP was better if not best than any other MMO for a long time.

So what are your predictions and which companies in the long run will fade away in the abyss or merge to deliver something good enough to earn your $?

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  Arglebargle

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4/28/13 6:21:06 PM#2

Misleading title much?

 

Forced PvP pretty much means no playing for this household's subs, and the more PvP focus there is the less goes to other aspects of the game.   Less liklihood of their success here as well.

 

As for company PvP:  I hope the big dragons fall.

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  Pynda

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4/28/13 6:49:00 PM#3


Originally posted by xKopogerox
World of Warcraft PvP was better if not best than any other MMO for a long time.


From my perspective I'd have to disagree with that opinion. Although I didn't play WoW much, I found world PvP (while it lasted, apparently?) to be a generally pointless lagfest....although fun for a bit. And as for Arena matches, why play a MMORPG at all? Why not just go duke it out non-stop in a First Person Shooter if that's what you enjoy?


Anyway, I think it's been well demonstrated that most MMORPG players in western countries are not agreeable to forced, group or die type PvP. There have to be options for the times a player just wants to kick back, explore a little, craft a little, or do some PvE'ing. Othwerwise the game is going to be niche at best. However I'm not saying this necessarily means lots of safe zones, etc.. It just means you won't definitely be squashed like a bug by gank squads within minutes if you decide to partake in some of the above activities. And play in a reasonably smart manner.

  Loktofeit

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4/28/13 6:51:10 PM#4
Originally posted by xKopogerox

Watching game companies PvP against each other and seeing them face the obvious choice of merge or extinction, it's just lovely.

My prediction is the game company that will outshine the rest in the long run will also featiure a PvP system in their product that will just be on another whole level.

Look at Blizzard for example, one of the best gaming companies on the market and despite that they still decided to merge with Activision. World of Warcraft PvP was better if not best than any other MMO for a long time.

So what are your predictions and which companies in the long run will fade away in the abyss or merge to deliver something good enough to earn your $?

You guys really need to get over this There Can Be Only One thing. 

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  Sovrath

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4/28/13 6:54:56 PM#5
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by xKopogerox

Watching game companies PvP against each other and seeing them face the obvious choice of merge or extinction, it's just lovely.

My prediction is the game company that will outshine the rest in the long run will also featiure a PvP system in their product that will just be on another whole level.

Look at Blizzard for example, one of the best gaming companies on the market and despite that they still decided to merge with Activision. World of Warcraft PvP was better if not best than any other MMO for a long time.

So what are your predictions and which companies in the long run will fade away in the abyss or merge to deliver something good enough to earn your $?

You guys really need to get over this There Can Be Only One thing. 

They can't, it's just not possible, it comes from having a very "focused" world view.

@op: I disagree with you, but partially agree with you for "my taste", in that I can't understand how WoW pvp is the best when there is no territory control. Yet I prefer a pvp end game. Just not one that is wrapped up in battlegrounds.

  DeathWolf2u

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4/28/13 6:55:51 PM#6

PvP in mmorpg's is an awesome feature for the cheaters that script their way through it. Most honest gamers do not prefer PvP at all and like me when I have the need for competitive play against other players I will play an FPS game where it is your actual skill as a gamer with a keyboard and mouse rather than the mmorpg route which takes not much skill at all especially when it is so easy to script.

 

No....I prefer PVE in mmorpg's because that's what those type of games are really geared for.

  free2play

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4/28/13 7:03:02 PM#7

Same shit, different day.

Player competition in a game world is fine. Spamming F1 to F5 to see who has better latency is just a waste of time.

  Axehilt

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4/28/13 11:24:43 PM#8

OP your own poll, with a massive PVP bias, barely showed more "Both PVP/PVE" players than "PVE only" players.  So while you can say PVP is a must for you, it's hard to say it's required for a MMORPG.

In fact, with an unbiased poll you'd find that most players are completely fine with a PVE-only MMORPG (and certainly there's a massive desire for PVP-optional MMORPGs where a user can choose whether they want PVE or a PVP/PVE mix.)

Generally speaking, MMORPGs favor the PVE crowd because PVP with progression tends to be rather shallow (play longer or bring more friends to win.)  Whereas when players want PVP, they typically want real, meaty, deep PVP -- and MMORPGs don't have that.

  ReeseFlamelocks

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4/28/13 11:48:59 PM#9
Combining PvE and PvP ultimately requires a developer to make the concession that playing against another player is somehow similar to playing an AI mob. This will never be the case, until Skynet proplery evolves. Beginning with this premise, you can't properly craft a game around two fundamentally different conflicts. For ideal results, PvP and PvE should be seperated in games. I have never played Wow, but from what I understand PvP is a fairly inconsequential aspect of the game. (As most PvP is in most PvE-oriented games.) In other words, it's highly structured carebear baby-PvP.

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  StonesDK

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4/28/13 11:53:59 PM#10
A MMO can easily survive without PvP entirely but if the developers want to attract more players, as selling games is a business, there has to be a PvP option. The key word here is option
  DamonVile

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4/29/13 12:56:48 AM#11
Why do people call it pvp in mmos ? It's gear vrs gear.

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  Adamantine

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4/29/13 4:16:14 AM#12

Tip: If its gear vs gear, you have a poorly designed PvP game.

And there is absolutely no reason to "rejoice" about gaming companies "battle" each other. Less gaming companies just means less choice for you. And less choice means worse choices.

Ideal for the player would be a market of 100+ companies all offering alternatives.

The ultimate disaster for a player would be one monopolist as only choice.

 

  Emrendil

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4/29/13 4:26:14 AM#13
Originally posted by DamonVile
Why do people call it pvp in mmos ? It's gear vrs gear.

Yep, pretty much, and build vs build :)

  Emrendil

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4/29/13 4:28:43 AM#14
I just can't stand PvP in mmorpgs, i have other games for that (LoL or Dota 2).
  Smikis

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4/29/13 4:33:31 AM#15

blizzard, belongs to vivendi, vivendi bought activision, there was no blizzard decided to merge with activision, there was no merge at any kinda,just one name for vivendis gaming division

 

and we had pvp focused mmorpgs for last 10 years, not one of them did good, not a single one

 

there is big issue in pvp, someone always have to die to make it fun, and for that person it wont be fun

best pvp i hadwas in alterac valley in wow, why? because of all decisions you could do, all the pve that involved in pvp made it so much better, all different objectives you could do, summon huge elemental, call air wyverns , wolf riders, upgrade guards, capture mines, and so on, not just kill, cap flag, kill over and  over

  Shorun

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4/29/13 4:42:42 AM#16
Originally posted by xKopogerox

Look at Blizzard for example, one of the best gaming companies on the market and despite that they still decided to merge with Activision. World of Warcraft PvP was better if not best than any other MMO for a long time.

What? WoW? The game where every class has about ten CCs and you're stunned, knocked out, frozen, bound or silenced all the time? The game where anyone who has been grinding pvp gear longer than you can kill you in 2 blows?

I only liked pvp in WAR (in the early lvls, not the endgame) and in GW1+2 so far, because you didn't have to grind gear for months to be good (again, with WAR only in the early lvls).

Also, I don't think small battles make sense in an mmorpg. A battlegroup must at least have the size to feature every class. Or you give everyone the ability to do everything, like in GW1 (with the dual classes) and 2. 2on2 arena battles don't make a lot of sense in a class-based RPG if you ask me.

And I would totally play a game without PvP. In fact, my favourite multiplayer RPGs are FF:Crystal Chronicles and the "Tales of..." games. The most fun you can have in an RPG with your friends!

  ShakyMo

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4/29/13 5:16:27 AM#17
Wow pvp sucks.

It somes up all that is wrong with most mmo pvp.
1 instanced timed matches and the associated sat in a city bloody queueing
2 ridiculous stun lock / fear lock etc.. style cried control
3 token grind for a never ending set of tiered item sets.
4 system that encourages people to afk / bot their way to tokens.
5 system that encourages people to loose quickly once they are loosing, again to grind tokens quicker.
6 "pvp" servers that are just flip a switch and good pvp magically happens
7 even when they added outdoor stuff like lwg, they stuck it on a timer - because in the mind of wow devs, pvp is something you should do for "fun" while waiting for your raid to form.
8 stupid special pvp only stat
9 stupid 1vs1 class balancing that leads to boring homogeneous classes and a whole boat load of forum whine.

Wow is a great game if you like doing dungeons.
It should never ever be used as an example of good pvp.
  ShakyMo

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4/29/13 5:20:10 AM#18
Forgot the big one
10 gear > skill > teamwork
  Total_Hunt

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4/29/13 5:26:17 AM#19

For PvP I play FPS/TPS/RTS/MOBA games. There are so many better options for PvP.

 

In an MMORPG I want to kill dragons with my guild.

 

I think the only reason that PvP is popular in MMORPG's is because it can be done more casually than raiding.

  bleakraven

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4/29/13 5:27:15 AM#20
Originally posted by StonesDK
A MMO can easily survive without PvP entirely but if the developers want to attract more players, as selling games is a business, there has to be a PvP option. The key word here is option

I fully agree with you. Options are good. Even if I don't use it, just having the option there makes me feel good.

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