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  ZizouX

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Joined: 5/17/11
Posts: 667

4/27/13 10:09:04 PM#61

Voice acting and the main story cut scenes are omitted in teh beta so that it doesn't spoil the release.  Many things are omitted and there are only placeholders.

 

The current beta is probably 10% of the game.  For those of you who like to judge a book by its cover, please go back and play games in the starting levels and tell me how wonderful it was.  I'm sure you want to be fighting 200 foot dragons as a lvl 1, but mmo's and especially rpgs don't work that way.  You start easy, and it becomes a grand journey in the end, or else the journey isn't worth it.

 

I remember raiding in Wow.  Raiding was nothing like lvl 1-49.  At 5o it became a different game, if I judged any game at the starting BETA Zone for god's sake, I would never play any game.

 

For those of you who want "epic" content from lvl 1, you will be bored at end game because you'll say to yousrelf "This is not different than lvl 1, what a waste of time."  GW2 ended up being like that for me.  Great starting zones, great leveling up content and then I got to 80 and said..."huh, the combat is teh same as lvl 1, ad teh content is the same as lvl 1, what's the point of playing, I already experience it."

 

I've seen the type of content that yoshi-P can create from FFXIV 1.o.

 

We have beastmen open areas with FATES (Dynmaic events, public quests, rifts etc)..... Said zones spawn Primals depending on which stronghold you're at (Cobalt, Ixali, Amaljaa, etc.).  We have 2  raids with 24 members.  We have pvp in the form of battlegrounds and coliseum.  You have chocobo pets that can be customized to fight with you.  You have player housing.  You will have Golden Saucer from FF7 and maybe even a card game from FF8 and 9.

 

There is so much to look forward and if you guys can't see the forest through the trees, your loss.   Regardless, we'll accept you with open arms when you come back to realize that this was the FF we were all hoping for.

 

Don't let the beginning levels of a BETA!!! (that is purposefully limited) get you down.  The leveling is fast so going from 1-50 on your first character will only take a few weeks.  Why worry about a part of the game where you won't even spend that much time on it... 90% of your mmo life is spent end game.  Some mmo's arn't designed that way... FFXIV ARR is, so go into knowing what you're getting into.  

I for one, am very excited about the future.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

4/27/13 10:19:56 PM#62
Originally posted by ZizouX

Voice acting and the main story cut scenes are omitted in teh beta so that it doesn't spoil the release.  Many things are omitted and there are only placeholders.

 

The current beta is probably 10% of the game.  For those of you who like to judge a book by its cover, please go back and play games in the starting levels and tell me how wonderful it was.  I'm sure you want to be fighting 200 foot dragons as a lvl 1, but mmo's and especially rpgs don't work that way.  You start easy, and it becomes a grand journey in the end, or else the journey isn't worth it.

 

I remember raiding in Wow.  Raiding was nothing like lvl 1-49.  At 5o it became a different game, if I judged any game at the starting BETA Zone for god's sake, I would never play any game.

 

For those of you who want "epic" content from lvl 1, you will be bored at end game because you'll say to yousrelf "This is not different than lvl 1, what a waste of time."  GW2 ended up being like that for me.  Great starting zones, great leveling up content and then I got to 80 and said..."huh, the combat is teh same as lvl 1, ad teh content is the same as lvl 1, what's the point of playing, I already experience it."

 

I've seen the type of content that yoshi-P can create from FFXIV 1.o.

 

We have beastmen open areas with FATES (Dynmaic events, public quests, rifts etc)..... Said zones spawn Primals depending on which stronghold you're at (Cobalt, Ixali, Amaljaa, etc.).  We have 2  raids with 24 members.  We have pvp in the form of battlegrounds and coliseum.  You have chocobo pets that can be customized to fight with you.  You have player housing.  You will have Golden Saucer from FF7 and maybe even a card game from FF8 and 9.

 

There is so much to look forward and if you guys can't see the forest through the trees, your loss.   Regardless, we'll accept you with open arms when you come back to realize that this was the FF we were all hoping for.

 

Don't let the beginning levels of a BETA!!! (that is purposefully limited) get you down.  The leveling is fast so going from 1-50 on your first character will only take a few weeks.  Why worry about a part of the game where you won't even spend that much time on it... 90% of your mmo life is spent end game.  Some mmo's arn't designed that way... FFXIV ARR is, so go into knowing what you're getting into.  

I for one, am very excited about the future.

i don't really agree with that.. in any game I played beta that I ended up playing at retail there was always something in the beta that set the game apart.. something that made the game stand out over the other sea of MMOs out there.. just have not seen that in this game at all yet.. also some games you do fight huge massive beast at level 1 its called gw2 heh.. anyway I do agree its a bad idea to judge a game as a whole from only a very small piece of it but i also think its important to make a good first impression on people.. if i play a MMO and 15 levels in it feels the same as every other MMO out i think that is a problem.. i don't have a TON of time to play these games and only can really focus on a couple at a time so it needs something to grab me and want me to play.. hoping the next phase of beta shows me more than I have seen so far..

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  simsalabim77

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Joined: 4/27/13
Posts: 617

 
OP  4/27/13 10:27:00 PM#63
Originally posted by ZizouX

Voice acting and the main story cut scenes are omitted in teh beta so that it doesn't spoil the release.  Many things are omitted and there are only placeholders.

 

The current beta is probably 10% of the game.  For those of you who like to judge a book by its cover, please go back and play games in the starting levels and tell me how wonderful it was.  I'm sure you want to be fighting 200 foot dragons as a lvl 1, but mmo's and especially rpgs don't work that way.  You start easy, and it becomes a grand journey in the end, or else the journey isn't worth it.

 

I remember raiding in Wow.  Raiding was nothing like lvl 1-49.  At 5o it became a different game, if I judged any game at the starting BETA Zone for god's sake, I would never play any game.

 

For those of you who want "epic" content from lvl 1, you will be bored at end game because you'll say to yousrelf "This is not different than lvl 1, what a waste of time."  GW2 ended up being like that for me.  Great starting zones, great leveling up content and then I got to 80 and said..."huh, the combat is teh same as lvl 1, ad teh content is the same as lvl 1, what's the point of playing, I already experience it."

 

I've seen the type of content that yoshi-P can create from FFXIV 1.o.

 

We have beastmen open areas with FATES (Dynmaic events, public quests, rifts etc)..... Said zones spawn Primals depending on which stronghold you're at (Cobalt, Ixali, Amaljaa, etc.).  We have 2  raids with 24 members.  We have pvp in the form of battlegrounds and coliseum.  You have chocobo pets that can be customized to fight with you.  You have player housing.  You will have Golden Saucer from FF7 and maybe even a card game from FF8 and 9.

 

There is so much to look forward and if you guys can't see the forest through the trees, your loss.   Regardless, we'll accept you with open arms when you come back to realize that this was the FF we were all hoping for.

 

Don't let the beginning levels of a BETA!!! (that is purposefully limited) get you down.  The leveling is fast so going from 1-50 on your first character will only take a few weeks.  Why worry about a part of the game where you won't even spend that much time on it... 90% of your mmo life is spent end game.  Some mmo's arn't designed that way... FFXIV ARR is, so go into knowing what you're getting into.  

I for one, am very excited about the future.

 

Nobody's judging the entire game based on beta. We're judging the starter area which happens to suck ass. 

  jskeets916

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Joined: 1/08/13
Posts: 160

4/27/13 10:31:52 PM#64
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by ZizouX

Voice acting and the main story cut scenes are omitted in teh beta so that it doesn't spoil the release.  Many things are omitted and there are only placeholders.

 

The current beta is probably 10% of the game.  For those of you who like to judge a book by its cover, please go back and play games in the starting levels and tell me how wonderful it was.  I'm sure you want to be fighting 200 foot dragons as a lvl 1, but mmo's and especially rpgs don't work that way.  You start easy, and it becomes a grand journey in the end, or else the journey isn't worth it.

 

I remember raiding in Wow.  Raiding was nothing like lvl 1-49.  At 5o it became a different game, if I judged any game at the starting BETA Zone for god's sake, I would never play any game.

 

For those of you who want "epic" content from lvl 1, you will be bored at end game because you'll say to yousrelf "This is not different than lvl 1, what a waste of time."  GW2 ended up being like that for me.  Great starting zones, great leveling up content and then I got to 80 and said..."huh, the combat is teh same as lvl 1, ad teh content is the same as lvl 1, what's the point of playing, I already experience it."

 

I've seen the type of content that yoshi-P can create from FFXIV 1.o.

 

We have beastmen open areas with FATES (Dynmaic events, public quests, rifts etc)..... Said zones spawn Primals depending on which stronghold you're at (Cobalt, Ixali, Amaljaa, etc.).  We have 2  raids with 24 members.  We have pvp in the form of battlegrounds and coliseum.  You have chocobo pets that can be customized to fight with you.  You have player housing.  You will have Golden Saucer from FF7 and maybe even a card game from FF8 and 9.

 

There is so much to look forward and if you guys can't see the forest through the trees, your loss.   Regardless, we'll accept you with open arms when you come back to realize that this was the FF we were all hoping for.

 

Don't let the beginning levels of a BETA!!! (that is purposefully limited) get you down.  The leveling is fast so going from 1-50 on your first character will only take a few weeks.  Why worry about a part of the game where you won't even spend that much time on it... 90% of your mmo life is spent end game.  Some mmo's arn't designed that way... FFXIV ARR is, so go into knowing what you're getting into.  

I for one, am very excited about the future.

 

Nobody's judging the entire game based on beta. We're judging the starter area which happens to suck ass. 

Huh well fair enough i'd prefer my devs to have more of a mindset of the endgame long term progression, thats why i played FFXI for 8 years even tho the starter area you auto-attack wasps and sit there, or even WoW or any successful MMO i've played.

Its the times after building up my character with my comrades and venturing into sky for the first time and being challenged by the devs to utilize every skill i had attained up to that point, as opposed to the starter areas that tickled my pickle.

I think by the grossly negative statements already drawn from not just beta, but the first 50% of the beta phase is judging a book on its cover, maybe first chapter?

  ZizouX

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Joined: 5/17/11
Posts: 667

4/27/13 11:24:08 PM#65

My personal observation has been that the game has been met very favorably by a vast majority of beta players.  The only ot issue is that the community is deeply devided on whether they like the combat.  Some like, some don't.

Other than that, I think everything else is on track for smooth release.

  striderbob

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Joined: 5/02/10
Posts: 177

4/28/13 12:17:37 AM#66
I'm disappointed there is no ass slider in character creation, all the race's females have serious pancake ass. Squeenix needs to get there priorties straight.
  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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4/28/13 2:23:24 AM#67
The only thing i am going to say here is . Assume all you want about the Beta. If you are not in and want to keep talking about things that are not fact , and are not even close to what you think then by all means keep sounding like a bunch of arses. ( this is to the Wow clone comments mostly ) To the beta testers keep a lid on things and let the haters talk and the trolls troll and the Wow fan boys be Wow fan boy we know the truth and know how things are going . All i will say is wait. Good things come to those who wait. 

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  Cod_Eye

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4/28/13 2:52:36 AM#68

Beta is for testing core elements, Yoshi has already told players to stop playing beta if they are getting bored, to use the beta as a taster or trial is wrong on so many levels.  The reason for NDA is obvious from reading this thread.

 

NDA was lifted to only talk about character creation and discuss the changes in Gridania from 1.x to ARR.  Anything else is still under NDA.

  simsalabim77

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Joined: 4/27/13
Posts: 617

 
OP  4/28/13 3:05:13 AM#69

You guys need to calm down. People know that it's only beta and aren't judging the entirety of the game based on it. NDA was lifted and I figured it'd be nice to talk about what we could, but of course it turned into the FFXIV defense force taking every single bit of negativity and turned it into something it wasn't. 

WE KNOW IT'S BETA. We know it's going to change. We're not judging the entire game based on character creation and Grid. Just because the starter area is boring does not mean the entire game will be terrible. I haven't seen a single post in these 7 pages that judged the whole game based on this very brief glimpse into Grid. I know the FFXIV fanbase is hypersensitive to negativity, but don't twist someone saying, "The starter area is boring" into "The entire game is awful" because I haven't seen a single person say that. 

  Cod_Eye

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4/28/13 3:07:27 AM#70
Originally posted by simsalabim77

You guys need to calm down. People know that it's only beta and aren't judging the entirety of the game based on it. NDA was lifted and I figured it'd be nice to talk about what we could, but of course it turned into the FFXIV defense force taking every single bit of negativity and turned it into something it wasn't. 

WE KNOW IT'S BETA. We know it's going to change. We're not judging the entire game based on character creation and Grid. Just because the starter area is boring does not mean the entire game will be terrible. I haven't seen a single post in these 7 pages that judged the whole game based on this very brief glimpse into Grid. I know the FFXIV fanbase is hypersensitive to negativity, but don't twist someone saying, "The starter area is boring" into "The entire game is awful" because I haven't seen a single person say that. 

NDA is not lifted, try some reading comprehension.

  simsalabim77

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OP  4/28/13 3:12:03 AM#71
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

You guys need to calm down. People know that it's only beta and aren't judging the entirety of the game based on it. NDA was lifted and I figured it'd be nice to talk about what we could, but of course it turned into the FFXIV defense force taking every single bit of negativity and turned it into something it wasn't. 

WE KNOW IT'S BETA. We know it's going to change. We're not judging the entire game based on character creation and Grid. Just because the starter area is boring does not mean the entire game will be terrible. I haven't seen a single post in these 7 pages that judged the whole game based on this very brief glimpse into Grid. I know the FFXIV fanbase is hypersensitive to negativity, but don't twist someone saying, "The starter area is boring" into "The entire game is awful" because I haven't seen a single person say that. 

NDA is not lifted, try some reading comprehension.

 

NDA was temporarily lifted for Grid and character creation. If they didn't want people talking about it somewhere besides the Nico Nico event, they should have been way more specific, but the announcement specifically says the confidentiality provisions were dropped for character creation and Grid. 

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4/28/13 3:14:49 AM#72
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

You guys need to calm down. People know that it's only beta and aren't judging the entirety of the game based on it. NDA was lifted and I figured it'd be nice to talk about what we could, but of course it turned into the FFXIV defense force taking every single bit of negativity and turned it into something it wasn't. 

WE KNOW IT'S BETA. We know it's going to change. We're not judging the entire game based on character creation and Grid. Just because the starter area is boring does not mean the entire game will be terrible. I haven't seen a single post in these 7 pages that judged the whole game based on this very brief glimpse into Grid. I know the FFXIV fanbase is hypersensitive to negativity, but don't twist someone saying, "The starter area is boring" into "The entire game is awful" because I haven't seen a single person say that. 

NDA is not lifted, try some reading comprehension.

 

NDA was temporarily lifted for Grid and character creation. If they didn't want people talking about it somewhere besides the Nico Nico event, they should have been way more specific, but the announcement specifically says the confidentiality provisions were dropped for character creation and Grid. 

It was specific, but your thread title is misleading as only specific points can be talked about.  And if your so enthusiastic on talking about ARR then use the official Beta forums, anyone who isnt in the Beta can't discuss it because they have no idea what to discuss.

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OP  4/28/13 3:16:54 AM#73
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

You guys need to calm down. People know that it's only beta and aren't judging the entirety of the game based on it. NDA was lifted and I figured it'd be nice to talk about what we could, but of course it turned into the FFXIV defense force taking every single bit of negativity and turned it into something it wasn't. 

WE KNOW IT'S BETA. We know it's going to change. We're not judging the entire game based on character creation and Grid. Just because the starter area is boring does not mean the entire game will be terrible. I haven't seen a single post in these 7 pages that judged the whole game based on this very brief glimpse into Grid. I know the FFXIV fanbase is hypersensitive to negativity, but don't twist someone saying, "The starter area is boring" into "The entire game is awful" because I haven't seen a single person say that. 

NDA is not lifted, try some reading comprehension.

 

NDA was temporarily lifted for Grid and character creation. If they didn't want people talking about it somewhere besides the Nico Nico event, they should have been way more specific, but the announcement specifically says the confidentiality provisions were dropped for character creation and Grid. 

It was specific, but your thread title is misleading as only specific points can be talked about.

 

DId you read the OP or did you just read the title and decide to post? I didn't see a way to edit the title, so I edited the OP. 

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4/28/13 3:21:04 AM#74
Originally posted by simsalabim77

Everything from phase 2 is open for discussion. Videos, images, sound. etc is not allowed to be posted. I've tested since the start of phase 1. 

If you have questions, post em' and I will try and answer them to the best of my ability. Please do understand that we only have access to one area of the game, so plenty of things can, and likely will change, but I figured for those that are interested, I can give you a general idea of where the game is headed. 

 

edit: Turns out I should have read the announcement a little closer. I can talk about character creation, and the starter area. So, no specifics on dungeons or combat later in the game it seems. 

yes I read the OP. and no you cannot discuss the starter area. only Gridania.

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OP  4/28/13 3:24:02 AM#75
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

Everything from phase 2 is open for discussion. Videos, images, sound. etc is not allowed to be posted. I've tested since the start of phase 1. 

If you have questions, post em' and I will try and answer them to the best of my ability. Please do understand that we only have access to one area of the game, so plenty of things can, and likely will change, but I figured for those that are interested, I can give you a general idea of where the game is headed. 

 

edit: Turns out I should have read the announcement a little closer. I can talk about character creation, and the starter area. So, no specifics on dungeons or combat later in the game it seems. 

yes I read the OP.

Oh, look there. What's that green text at the bottom of the post say? 

Did you read the edit at the bottom of the post? Sorry for mistakingly thinking that people would actually read the whole OP. 

 

The starter area is called Gridania. Have you ever logged into the beta?

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4/28/13 5:21:05 AM#76
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

Everything from phase 2 is open for discussion. Videos, images, sound. etc is not allowed to be posted. I've tested since the start of phase 1. 

If you have questions, post em' and I will try and answer them to the best of my ability. Please do understand that we only have access to one area of the game, so plenty of things can, and likely will change, but I figured for those that are interested, I can give you a general idea of where the game is headed. 

 

edit: Turns out I should have read the announcement a little closer. I can talk about character creation, and the starter area. So, no specifics on dungeons or combat later in the game it seems. 

yes I read the OP.

Oh, look there. What's that green text at the bottom of the post say? 

Did you read the edit at the bottom of the post? Sorry for mistakingly thinking that people would actually read the whole OP. 

 

The starter area is called Gridania. Have you ever logged into the beta?

Gridania as in the Town, not south, north and east shroud.  And as I said before why don't you discuss it inside the official Beta forum, non Beta players have nothing to discuss.

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4/28/13 5:28:14 AM#77
Originally posted by VastoHorde

So it has finally begun

 

 

 

 

this.

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

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OP  4/28/13 5:33:30 AM#78
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77
Originally posted by Cod_Eye
Originally posted by simsalabim77

Everything from phase 2 is open for discussion. Videos, images, sound. etc is not allowed to be posted. I've tested since the start of phase 1. 

If you have questions, post em' and I will try and answer them to the best of my ability. Please do understand that we only have access to one area of the game, so plenty of things can, and likely will change, but I figured for those that are interested, I can give you a general idea of where the game is headed. 

 

edit: Turns out I should have read the announcement a little closer. I can talk about character creation, and the starter area. So, no specifics on dungeons or combat later in the game it seems. 

yes I read the OP.

Oh, look there. What's that green text at the bottom of the post say? 

Did you read the edit at the bottom of the post? Sorry for mistakingly thinking that people would actually read the whole OP. 

 

The starter area is called Gridania. Have you ever logged into the beta?

Gridania as in the Town, not south, north and east shroud.  And as I said before why don't you discuss it inside the official Beta forum, non Beta players have nothing to discuss.

I was offering to answer any questions people may have had regarding character creation or the starter area. I didn't want to have a discussion with people who were playing the game. I wanted to give the people not in beta, but who were curious, a chance to ask some questions and get a bit of information. I said that in the OP. What are you not understanding?  I know Gridania is the town that you start in. You could even go so far as to say that it is a starter area, as in, your character starts there. 

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4/28/13 10:51:39 AM#79
Offering a judgment on your opinion bias. The area is boring . Is not answering questions its adding your own bias. Grid from V1 to now is nice on the eyes . It is more open. The quest like at the moment is generic most of the NPCs are placeholders. Most of the story is generic as in its not the real story. The creation of character is also incomplete there will be more options. This is beta not retail not open beta. You can not review a game based on a beta build. Testers test the game read the updated and do what is asked . If you want a honest review on how beta is going read the posts left on here from zam , dualshockers , they have a great inside review on the beta. And it is a unbiased one.

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OP  4/28/13 2:38:38 PM#80
Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
Offering a judgment on your opinion bias. The area is boring . Is not answering questions its adding your own bias. Grid from V1 to now is nice on the eyes . It is more open. The quest like at the moment is generic most of the NPCs are placeholders. Most of the story is generic as in its not the real story. The creation of character is also incomplete there will be more options. This is beta not retail not open beta. You can not review a game based on a beta build. Testers test the game read the updated and do what is asked . If you want a honest review on how beta is going read the posts left on here from zam , dualshockers , they have a great inside review on the beta. And it is a unbiased one.

All reviews are bias. They are an individuals opinion. Since they are mostly positive and "soft" you think they're unbiased because it coincides with your opinion. The area, right now is boring. I said a lot is likely to change. It's like you guys selectively read posts. I gave my impressions of the starter area based on my experience with it, and since it is a negative opinion, it is biased. Well of course it's goddamned bias, just like how your opinion is biased based on your tastes and experiences. 

And it's not exactly as though I said out of nowhere that the starter area is boring. It was brought up by someone else, a fellow beta tester,  and we, big shocker here, talked about it with one another. This thread was intended to give non beta players a chance to find out a little information from someone who was playing the beta. I'm not claiming the starter area sucks, and that is a fact. I'm saying after having played it multiple times over the months, and based on my experiences, it sucks. It's an opinion. You're welcome to disagree with it, but I'd ask that you stop derailing the thread, and instead present your opinion of the starter area to offer a different point of view. FFXIV is not under attack. Take a breath, stop being so defensive, and make a constructive post that focuses on why you think the starter area is good instead of why everyone who disagrees with you is bias and wrong.

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