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  Ryowulf

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4/27/13 6:33:16 PM#41

How can a show with vampires in it be bad?

 

or are they elves? leaning towards vamps

  erictlewis

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4/27/13 6:33:26 PM#42
Originally posted by XxGrimmxX
Originally posted by erictlewis

Considering the amount of money spent the make up jobs are cheesy, and lazy.  The aliens are more human than alien. The acting ya lol, a B movie from the 70's would be better than what I watched. 

Basicly it was the Eureaka story line, father and daughter come to town and set up shop all over again, with the expection of Eureaka was better. 

 

How do you know what aliens look like?

OK the story line was the Botan's show up, there like a bunch of different sub races.  All but 2 are huminiod in apperance.  The vouldge and that one that looks like a rip off from planet of the apes. 

The came the used tera forming machines on the earth to create a new environment,  well if your humanoid you don't need a new environment.   So that right there don't make since.   

Then all thier high teck space ships get blown up, and the basis is that the debree from this ships fall on earth call an ark fall.  Well the botans kicked our rear , tera formed our cities, so who blew up the space ships.  

Yea bad plot line all around,  and as far as what they look like well I the ones that look like they are albino, yea worst make up effect ever, lol lets get in the pool with beeds covering up vital part areas lol. 

Annd who says alies have to look like huminiods one would think if they needed a new tera formed plaent they would not be human in nature. 

  Eir_S

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4/27/13 6:34:14 PM#43
So I guess the show and the game are deemed mediocre?  Apparently that doesn't stop people from talking about them, and that's what it's all about. lol
  TheHavok

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4/27/13 6:48:48 PM#44
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by simsalabim77
I thought it was pretty decent for a Syfy original. Seems a little harsh to judge it based on two episodes. I thought Firefly sucked ass the first time I watched it, but it grew on me, and I ended up loving it. 

I dont agree. Good series grabs you from the very start. Spartacus, Walking Dead and Game of Thrones all started great and in the case of Spartacus, ended even greater.

Granted those are not sci-fi and its a shame we cant get one with the same quality as other type of series. Dont think a good sci-fi show have been done since Babylon 5, over 10 years ago.

To be honest, the only way to fully judge a series is to watch it from beginning to end. A great series can start off slow but gradually build in excitement and quality of story as you get more emotionally invested into the characters. Likewise, a series that can start out great and exciting can flounder and get boring. The wire is, in my opinion, a series that started off boring and then got more and more interesting. Likewise all of the CSI shows start off interesting and then fall off so incredibly fast once the ridiculous dialogue and plot twist occur. 

In today's world, tv producers and network executives know how competitive airtime and viewership is. They need tv scripts to be very exciting from minute one, hence why walking dead, game of thrones, and Spartacus started off with a bang. That's not to say that they aren't great series, but there definitely is an emphasis on convincing today's viewers that from minute one, they should stick with this show because it will be entertaining.

But, a series can still start off slow and end up being great. Patience is a virtue.

 

  Drakynn

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4/27/13 6:51:58 PM#45
Originally posted by Yamota

Such a dissapointment. Wooden acting, cheesy dialogue and nonsensical story. Also it seems that it is catered towards lower teens as the violence was very mild. 

Still might try the game but not watching the series.

The series has to be like that...if it's actually good ScyFy(Stupidest name ever) will cancel it....

Yes I am a bitter Alphas and Eureka fan. 8)

  StonesDK

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4/27/13 6:54:06 PM#46
Originally posted by Drakynn
Originally posted by Yamota

Such a dissapointment. Wooden acting, cheesy dialogue and nonsensical story. Also it seems that it is catered towards lower teens as the violence was very mild. 

Still might try the game but not watching the series.

The series has to be like that...if it's actually good ScyFy(Stupidest name ever) will cancel it....

Yes I am a bitter Alphas and Eureka fan. 8)

Alphas had horrible ratings. If you want to blame somebody then blame people for not tuning in. There's no reason a network should hold on to a money pit of a show. They are not in the charity business

  Isawa

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4/27/13 7:06:34 PM#47
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by XxGrimmxX
Originally posted by erictlewis

Considering the amount of money spent the make up jobs are cheesy, and lazy.  The aliens are more human than alien. The acting ya lol, a B movie from the 70's would be better than what I watched. 

Basicly it was the Eureaka story line, father and daughter come to town and set up shop all over again, with the expection of Eureaka was better. 

How do you know what aliens look like?

Well considering they are aliens, i.e. not from Earth, one would wager they would look quite different as they would not share any of the same genes end evolutionary path of humans.

Well the alien race, Volge, marching on the town was further in appearance than the others that have been shown. Most of the ones that veer too far off the path apparently are savage creatures like the monster wolf/insects (which may have been a result of the changes on Earth) in the woods at the start of the pilot.

If the next episode has hellbugs as someone said, there is a nice example of an alien with a society that is opposed to the others.

No appearance yet of http://en.defiance-wiki.com/wiki/Gulanee Quite different.

  Smikis

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4/27/13 7:11:15 PM#48

um its actually more entertaining that 90% stuff on tv now, i always cringe when people call bad acting out of blue, go outside, look at your friends, look at other people interacting , you woulld facepalm and realize just how stupid our interactions are , and those are not acted

not much wrong with acting in defiance , everyone is different , episode 2 was great tbh, someone said most of it was talking, well 99% of shows are talking, heck supposedly best show on tv right now, game of thrones is just talking , you got one hour show ( not including advertising ) and you are lucky if there is atleast 5 mins of action ( add 5 mins talking inbetween action and you get 10 at very best )

 

fringe was sci-fi, as someone who watched all the seasons i still can say it was mediacore  repetative and bland

walking dead didnt start good, it was never actually good, it was about zombies so everyone just started watching, its ok, first season was best, and third one is by far worst

 

people need to realize that our expectations are never gona be met and y ou should have realistic ones , out of 50 games i will be happy that i like one, out of 50 tv shows ill be happy to like couple

 

oh and probably most underated and least know  tv show, "Suits " is practically only talking, well any none scfi show is only talking, what a stupendous argument , yet that show is so good first season is just spectacular , oh ye and your precious "acting " is flawless

  zerocount

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4/27/13 7:14:27 PM#49
Originally posted by Yamota

Such a dissapointment. Wooden acting, cheesy dialogue and nonsensical story. Also it seems that it is catered towards lower teens as the violence was very mild. 

Still might try the game but not watching the series.

 

You have maybe watched two episodes not the series! 

Personally I rather enjoyed it but hey ho, each to their own.

  Acidon

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4/27/13 7:24:07 PM#50

Considered the fact that human life actually came from matter in space via meteorites, I think it's a safe bet to assume that other sentient life would look similiar to us.  You have the variation of the planets like gravity, oxygen content, heat levels.  But any planet as capable as ours of sustaining life would be fairly similiar.

Don't any of you guys watch the science channel?

 

EDIT:  I'm enjoying the show.  You have to assume the first few episodes are going to tell a lot of back-story and include lore.  Judging a series by the first couple episodes is moronic.

The only exception was the two vehicle scenes.. muh God.. that was bad CGI.

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  Volgore

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4/27/13 7:31:56 PM#51
Originally posted by Yamota

It was alright but I didnt like the dream sequences of Baltar and most of the actors, except Olmos and McDonnel were pretty bad and some, like Grace Park, were just awful. Some of the episodes were really bad as well, like one where Kara managed to fly a Cylon ship and used her foot (!) to close some hole in the hull.

So the series had its moments but many bad one's as well.

In the series you can clearly tell the "actors" from the "cast".

There are actually only very few actors in the show...

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  Xirik

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4/27/13 8:08:52 PM#52
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Xirik
Originally posted by Yamota

Such a dissapointment. Wooden acting, cheesy dialogue and nonsensical story. Also it seems that it is catered towards lower teens as the violence was very mild. 

Still might try the game but not watching the series.

You watched the whole series?! MAN ARE YOU FROM DA FUTURE! 

Yes, because I have to watch the whole series to comment on it. 

Look at your thread title mr. special needs.

You're the one that said you watched the whole series. durrrrrr hur hur derp derp

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  karat76

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4/27/13 8:16:47 PM#53
For a scyfy show it is not bad. Beats all those reality tv shows and model shows my wife likes. Its no stargate sg1 or highlander but i have seen worse.
  Margulis

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4/27/13 8:23:31 PM#54
Originally posted by Yamota

Such a dissapointment. Wooden acting, cheesy dialogue and nonsensical story. Also it seems that it is catered towards lower teens as the violence was very mild. 

Still might try the game but not watching the series.

I actually enjoy the series way more than the game, lol - Datak is awesome.  Even though I figured it would be the other way around.  Game is such a bust.

  Isometrix

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4/28/13 7:19:28 AM#55
Originally posted by Xirik

Yes, because I have to watch the whole series to comment on it. 

Look at your thread title mr. special needs.

You're the one that said you watched the whole series. durrrrrr hur hur derp derp

Don't be such an idiot, really immature. Perhaps you should be the one to read the thread title again and learn to comprehend the meaning of it. 22 year old male. Figures.

 

On topic, I'm kind of puzzled as to what's going on. When this project was announced, it sounded promising. I expected either a great series with a mediocre game that you kept shoving money into because you liked the show, or a great game with a mediocre show that you kept watching because you liked the game.

Seeing both the game and the show end up mediocre (and they clearly are, with both having 100+ reviews and an average scoring hanging between a 55 and a 70) is just weird. Why would you invest so much money into this cross-market material, hyping it up, if you know you can't deliver a 5-star product? They're going to end up setting cross-media, scifi series AND TV-show based games back by this. Investors won't risk it again because 'it failed last time'.

Not saying it's a failure yet, but with both the show and the game receiving lackluster reviews from pretty much everyone except a few fanboys here and there, it doesn't seem like either of them is going to be around 3 years from now.

Had high hopes for this. Kinda disappointed.

  Hrimnir

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4/28/13 7:11:08 PM#56

You guys are smoking crack.  I particularly like the guy whos aid it "heavily rips off battlestar galactica".  Which i find hilariously funny because battlestar galactica took place on a ship, and they were fighting/running from friggin machines.  There are literally 0 similarities besides the fact that they are both science fiction.

The series is written/produced by the same guy who did Farscape, and i see some similarities to that show as far as design aspects (humanoid aliens, but lots of differences as far as features/coloring, etc).

Oh, and the user reviews on metacritic are in at 7.3, which is very good.  Professional reviews are at 5.5, which is actually still good because TV/Movie critics always give bad scores to sci fi and fantasy shows (notable exception of GoT).

Oh, and we all know that the mmorpg.com forums are a swirling pool of hatred and negativity, so for real data as to how the show is doing:

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/23/syfys-defiance-continues-to-deliver-in-week-2/179394/

Syfy's 'Defiance' Continues to Deliver in Week 2

NEW YORK – April 16, 2013 – New Earth. New Rules. New Records. Syfy’s groundbreaking transmedia event Defiance became the channel’s most-watched scripted series premiere among Adults 18-49 (1.3 million) since 2006 (Eureka).

Defiance also delivered Syfy’s top performance in total viewers (2.7 million) and Adults 25-54 (1.4 million) since 2009 (Warehouse 13) during its two-hour telecast on Monday, April 15 from 9-11PM (ET/PT). While averaging a 2.0 HH rating, Defiance also averaged 479,000 Adults 18-34, the most for a scripted series premiere since 2006. 

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/16/defiance-premiere-is-syfys-most-watched-scripted-series-premiere-among-adults-18-49-since-2006/178229/

 

 

NEW YORK – April 23, 2013 – Syfy’s new hit series Defiance maintained strong viewership levels during its second episode, drawing 2.4 million total viewers, 1.11 million Adults 25-54 and 1.06 million Adults18-49 in the Monday, April 22 telecast from 9-10PM (ET/PT). Defiance was the #1 cable drama in its time period among both key demos.

Viewers also flocked to the April 15 premiere episode. Including the first 3 days of DVR playback, the Adults 18-49 audience increased to 1.77 million (from 1.3 million live viewers).  The total viewership also grew to 3.5 million (from 2.7 million).

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  Laughing-man

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4/28/13 7:16:48 PM#57

I really like the TV show, I think its doing great, and I'm not alone judging by its increased viewership as the series progresses.

I think the acting is great, and the setting / theme is excellent too.  I have no idea how someone could think they ripped off Battlestar... they are simply nothing alike.

Great show, can't wait for the next episode.

 

Edit: I used to think we were all just really hard on games here... I guess we're just hard on every sort of media.  I think the bar is too high for some of you, or you are just impossible to please.

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4/28/13 7:27:12 PM#58

I am enjoying the show and the game. I, for the first time, starting playing the xbox 360 lately, so I decided to buy Defiance. So far, I think the game is really good. In a strange way, it feels like I am playing my SWG spy and commando again.

I have been a Trion fan for some time, so I am confident they will consistantly crank out some good content as time goes by.

 

 

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4/29/13 12:20:44 PM#59
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by XxGrimmxX
Originally posted by erictlewis

Considering the amount of money spent the make up jobs are cheesy, and lazy.  The aliens are more human than alien. The acting ya lol, a B movie from the 70's would be better than what I watched. 

Basicly it was the Eureaka story line, father and daughter come to town and set up shop all over again, with the expection of Eureaka was better. 

 

How do you know what aliens look like?

Well considering they are aliens, i.e. not from Earth, one would wager they would look quite different as they would not share any of the same genes end evolutionary path of humans.

Well aren't you adorable! Never heard of convergent evolution. How cute! I could pinch your cheeks!

Oderint, dum metuant.

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4/29/13 2:15:21 PM#60
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by simsalabim77
I thought it was pretty decent for a Syfy original. Seems a little harsh to judge it based on two episodes. I thought Firefly sucked ass the first time I watched it, but it grew on me, and I ended up loving it. 

I dont agree. Good series grabs you from the very start. Spartacus, Walking Dead and Game of Thrones all started great and in the case of Spartacus, ended even greater.

Granted those are not sci-fi and its a shame we cant get one with the same quality as other type of series. Dont think a good sci-fi show have been done since Babylon 5, over 10 years ago.

Battlestar Galactica, Lost...so not over ten years.

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