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  Reklaw

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The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

4/26/13 1:38:00 AM#21
To be honost I don't even see those adds anymore.....as my focus lies on the forums. But everytime it get's mentioned by these virtal marketeer topics like this one which keeps the attention on this game (regardless if it's negative) is much more annoying then those adds.
  Landon2068

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4/26/13 1:47:39 AM#22
Originally posted by Four0Six

DONT LIKE IT, DONT LOG IN. Stop telling others what to do.

Stop telling me what to do. :-)

But seriously, I added specificly for those ads an blocker. I'm a family guy with kids and I like this site and am reading it at home. To avoid displaying that kind of kind of ads to my kids I added the blocker.

  User Deleted
 
OP  4/26/13 1:57:46 AM#23
Originally posted by Myrdynn
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Myrdynn

is there anyway to block scarlet blade adds?

 

Yes, it's not that difficult... here's what my front page looks like:

nice, how?

 

Install AdBlockPlus and blacklist the pictures.  The background ad and banner won't go away by default, since they aren't technically "ads" and are instead just pictures.  Everytime you load a page up, it takes a image from whatever advertisement campaign is going on, from the "images.mmorpg.com/images" directory.

They prefix their image file names with the date they were added, so like one image might be "20130323_sbus_rest_of_image_name.jpg.

You can just blacklist the image itself, which you may have to do several times as the small group of total images all load in, or you can just blacklist the prefix, like "images.mmorgp.com/images/20130323*" which blocks any image that starts with 20130323.  Every few weeks, or months, when they add a new batch of images, you just view the image name to get the format and update the list.  Takes about 10 seconds.

  User Deleted
 
OP  4/26/13 2:01:30 AM#24
Anyway, I don't mean for this to be a tutorial on how to block ads here.  I really just wanted to offer the site admins some suggestions on how to deal with adblockers.  Hint:  Trees are strong, but unbending, which is why so many get torn out in high winds and hurricanes, while the grass and reeds stay just fine.
  Bukkerz

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4/26/13 2:37:30 AM#25

I reallly cannot see the problem with these adverts at all. Most fantasy titles have a hint of erotisism about them when introducing the female form ... Conan was doing it years ago. It would seem to be the folks that protest too much are those whom take up their employers time on the net when they should be working and that all the fuss is just basically guilt.

I think it is clever marketing and has possibly boosted the Scarlet Blades player numbers. Of course this site needs to keep advertising and really there is no nudity here, the rest of the imagery is down to being unwrapped by your own imagination.

If this got banned then would every Sorceress with a Basque. Also superhero-wise Wonder Woman would be in trouble, dress her up too much and  you would be wondering if she were a woman at all. Then all the male characters would also have to be dumbed down not to look like chippendales. So great we could all play mmo's with Mr and Mrs Average and the 'meek would inherit the world' of warcraft even...... where Axes become less sharp and intimidating and Swords are just for dress and ceremony and where battle and PvP take place within a Government Chamber where often the most feeble can shout as loud as giants without the fear of physical retaliation.

I think the whole point of playing MMO's is that they allow players to envelope themselves in all types of fantasy. This site stands out to bring a multitude of games for public attention and opinion. It would all start becoming a tad dull if too many ridiculous censoring measures were carried out.

...Well...this is my opinion.

 

  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
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4/26/13 4:07:42 AM#26
I am actually gaining a lot of respect for mmorpg.com for not removing the ads.    I'm so sick an tired of people trying to push their own morality on others. 

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.

  Tofke

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Posts: 211

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4/26/13 7:21:57 AM#27
Originally posted by eyelolled
I am actually gaining a lot of respect for mmorpg.com for not removing the ads.    I'm so sick an tired of people trying to push their own morality on others. 

It is not my morality... Think of this in public spaces and the workfloor or people with small children. I don't care about nudity,but

I do care when Mmorpg.com plea to us and in essence whine on our use of adblock, assuring us they have some sense in the ads they show us. I probably would have less of an annoyance if it wouldn't occur so much but like their first campaign 80% of my browsing I get their advertisement.

So I whine on the fact that by their own doing I am blocking the ads again and most people will so it is not in their interest. It is their loss.

  LostHawk

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Posts: 53

4/26/13 7:33:12 AM#28

-someone gave the same AdBlock hint already - For the filter: better put "2013*" at the end

  AlBQuirky

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4/26/13 7:52:14 AM#29


Originally posted by eyelolled
I am actually gaining a lot of respect for mmorpg.com for not removing the ads.    I'm so sick an tired of people trying to push their own morality on others. 

Because *your* morality of acceptance is best for everyone? No matter which way the wind blows, someone's morality is taking precedence over someone else's.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  User Deleted
4/26/13 7:56:24 AM#30
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Four0Six

I say it in ALL the thread I see like this.:

DONT LIKE IT, DONT LOG IN. Stop telling others what to do.

Much easier just to block the ads and be done with it.  Of course, that doesn't actually help the website much, so I prefer door number 3:  constructive criticism with possible solutions.

But it's only your opinion the Ads are inappropriate. In my opinion they're for a game so they're fine. Why are you( and those who agree with you )  right and the site should change and the rest of us wrong ?

its sexism. thats the issue. but not according to the likes of you. but ask yourself. why is that games are only played by the male popoulation? the simple answers lies there in the ads. games are for male and with that half of the population are left out. sad enought. but this is a thing that you wont acknowledge, you will insteed blurr about free choice and so on. sadly 

  Very_bad_dreams

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Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 12

4/26/13 8:26:34 AM#31
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Four0Six

I say it in ALL the thread I see like this.:

DONT LIKE IT, DONT LOG IN. Stop telling others what to do.

Much easier just to block the ads and be done with it.  Of course, that doesn't actually help the website much, so I prefer door number 3:  constructive criticism with possible solutions.

But it's only your opinion the Ads are inappropriate. In my opinion they're for a game so they're fine. Why are you( and those who agree with you )  right and the site should change and the rest of us wrong ?

its sexism. thats the issue. but not according to the likes of you. but ask yourself. why is that games are only played by the male popoulation? the simple answers lies there in the ads. games are for male and with that half of the population are left out. sad enought. but this is a thing that you wont acknowledge, you will insteed blurr about free choice and so on. sadly 

Only played by males? And you have this data how?

  User Deleted
4/26/13 8:36:05 AM#32
Originally posted by Very_bad_dreams
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Four0Six

I say it in ALL the thread I see like this.:

DONT LIKE IT, DONT LOG IN. Stop telling others what to do.

Much easier just to block the ads and be done with it.  Of course, that doesn't actually help the website much, so I prefer door number 3:  constructive criticism with possible solutions.

But it's only your opinion the Ads are inappropriate. In my opinion they're for a game so they're fine. Why are you( and those who agree with you )  right and the site should change and the rest of us wrong ?

its sexism. thats the issue. but not according to the likes of you. but ask yourself. why is that games are only played by the male popoulation? the simple answers lies there in the ads. games are for male and with that half of the population are left out. sad enought. but this is a thing that you wont acknowledge, you will insteed blurr about free choice and so on. sadly 

Only played by males? And you have this data how?

Yeah. only male players! sorry, its a grammar fault from my side. english is a third word for me. 

I would have written Why is that gamers are mosly from the male population? And yes, the data is there. Look at who are the typical steam player, who are the typical game developer, who are in the retail store buying games? To argue that gameing is not a male dominated topic is not even important. Its more important to make the devs understand that ads like the one we are discussing  are making the public smaller mainly because its just applying to small male kids. If they would nt use this kind of ads gaming would be more flourishing because then the female popoulation would take a liking in this.  

  h0urg1ass

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Joined: 11/29/05
Posts: 308

4/26/13 8:42:20 AM#33
Well thought out, intelligent and convincing post followed by a steady stream of window licking assclowns.  Yep, I'm still on MMORPG.com.
  AvatarBlade

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Joined: 7/11/06
Posts: 774

4/26/13 8:42:29 AM#34
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by Very_bad_dreams
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by DamonVile
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Four0Six

I say it in ALL the thread I see like this.:

DONT LIKE IT, DONT LOG IN. Stop telling others what to do.

Much easier just to block the ads and be done with it.  Of course, that doesn't actually help the website much, so I prefer door number 3:  constructive criticism with possible solutions.

But it's only your opinion the Ads are inappropriate. In my opinion they're for a game so they're fine. Why are you( and those who agree with you )  right and the site should change and the rest of us wrong ?

its sexism. thats the issue. but not according to the likes of you. but ask yourself. why is that games are only played by the male popoulation? the simple answers lies there in the ads. games are for male and with that half of the population are left out. sad enought. but this is a thing that you wont acknowledge, you will insteed blurr about free choice and so on. sadly 

Only played by males? And you have this data how?

Yeah. only male players! sorry, its a grammar fault from my side. english is a third word for me. 

I would have written Why is that gamers are mosly from the male population? And yes, the data is there. Look at who are the typical steam player, who are the typical game developer, who are in the retail store buying games? To argue that gameing is not a male dominated topic is not even important. Its more important to make the devs understand that ads like the one we are discussing  are making the public smaller mainly because its just applying to small male kids. If they would nt use this kind of ads gaming would be more flourishing because then the female popoulation would take a liking in this.  

http://www.marketingcharts.com/interactive/women-comprise-40-of-us-gamers-26-of-whom-are-over-age-50-5327/

This study seems to contradict your point of view.

  h0urg1ass

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Posts: 308

4/26/13 8:46:13 AM#35

... The vast majority of which are playing Candy Crush Saga on their phone or Farmville on facebook.

Has absolutely nothing to do with MMORPG's, and any man who'se played them for a while knows for a fact that women do NOT comprise 40% of the market share of MMO gamers.   If you want to leave the genre sure, but has nothing to do with these ridiculously prepubescent sexist ads on MMORPG.com.

  AvatarBlade

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Joined: 7/11/06
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4/26/13 8:52:44 AM#36
Originally posted by h0urg1ass

... The vast majority of which are playing Candy Crush Saga on their phone or Farmville on facebook.

Has absolutely nothing to do with MMORPG's, and any man who'se played them for a while knows for a fact that women do NOT comprise 40% of the market share of MMO gamers.   If you want to leave the genre sure, but has nothing to do with these ridiculously prepubescent sexist ads on MMORPG.com.

Hey, he said gamers and games, not MMOs. As far as MMOs go, I can attest to the fact that there are female players in this genre too. How many I don't know, but I doubt these games have worse communities than others. Also don't think the ads on MMORPG are what keeps the ones not play, from doing it, also.

  User Deleted
4/26/13 8:58:21 AM#37
Originally posted by AvatarBlade
Originally posted by h0urg1ass

... The vast majority of which are playing Candy Crush Saga on their phone or Farmville on facebook.

Has absolutely nothing to do with MMORPG's, and any man who'se played them for a while knows for a fact that women do NOT comprise 40% of the market share of MMO gamers.   If you want to leave the genre sure, but has nothing to do with these ridiculously prepubescent sexist ads on MMORPG.com.

Hey, he said gamers and games, not MMOs. As far as MMOs go, I can attest to the fact that there are female players in this genre too. How many I don't know, but I doubt these games have worse communities than others. Also don't think the ads on MMORPG are what keeps the ones not play, from doing it, also.

Its just not about this specific ads. Who believe its just about this one sololy? Its a silly straw men argument. Its from this ad, to the art work, to the gamers by themself. 

Game devs are nagging about them having hard times with declinng profit. Well for ones they would maybe try to inlucde not just the male population by letting 12 year old minded art workers do the female clothes. male+female consumers are supposley more profit than just male consumer...

and yeah, a study that says a 1/4 of the gamers are +50 years old. a study that are problaby hard to use mainly because its seems to be built upon attitudes and questions like "do you play electroinc games" and if a person says yes to that questions equals a gamer. also the study points out that games that are not sololy specified to one consumer perspective (think the oppposite of scarlet blade) seems to be played by more ppl. So less sexism, more profite. yes?

Please tell me your opinion about these ads AvatarBlade

  AvatarBlade

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4/26/13 9:13:02 AM#38
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by AvatarBlade
Originally posted by h0urg1ass

... The vast majority of which are playing Candy Crush Saga on their phone or Farmville on facebook.

Has absolutely nothing to do with MMORPG's, and any man who'se played them for a while knows for a fact that women do NOT comprise 40% of the market share of MMO gamers.   If you want to leave the genre sure, but has nothing to do with these ridiculously prepubescent sexist ads on MMORPG.com.

Hey, he said gamers and games, not MMOs. As far as MMOs go, I can attest to the fact that there are female players in this genre too. How many I don't know, but I doubt these games have worse communities than others. Also don't think the ads on MMORPG are what keeps the ones not play, from doing it, also.

We are on a mmorog.com site. So its about mmorpg. 

Its just not about this specific ads. Who believe its just about this one sololy? Its a silly straw men argument. Its from this ad, to the art work, to the gamers by themself. 

Game devs are nagging about them having hard times with declinng profit. Well for ones they would maybe try to inlucde not just the male population by letting 12 year old minded art workers do the female clothes. male+female consumers are supposley more profit than just male consumer...

and yeah, a study that says a 1/4 of the gamers are +50 years old. a study that are problaby hard to use mainly because its seems to be built upon attitudes and questions like "do you play electroinc games" and if a person says yes to that questions equals a gamer...

Sorry, but be more specific, because even if this is mainly a MMO site, other genres can and are discussed here, as is gaming in general.

It's not as if all MMOs go for this kind of advertising and let's say "selling point". Most of them don't actually. From recent memory I can only recall Tera, SB and AoC.

Also, the attitude of, oh you don't play core games for at least 4 hours a day, you're not a gamer, is one of the best way to actually keep people that aren't interested yet, from ever being interested in trying more stuff in gaming, in general.

Edit: I knew people over 50 and one person over 60, who were playing WoW, both male and female. Sure it's personal experience, but being over 50 doesn't mean you can't be playing games in general or MMOs in particular.

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4/26/13 9:26:08 AM#39
Originally posted by AvatarBlade
Originally posted by mymmo
Originally posted by AvatarBlade
Originally posted by h0urg1ass

... The vast majority of which are playing Candy Crush Saga on their phone or Farmville on facebook.

Has absolutely nothing to do with MMORPG's, and any man who'se played them for a while knows for a fact that women do NOT comprise 40% of the market share of MMO gamers.   If you want to leave the genre sure, but has nothing to do with these ridiculously prepubescent sexist ads on MMORPG.com.

Hey, he said gamers and games, not MMOs. As far as MMOs go, I can attest to the fact that there are female players in this genre too. How many I don't know, but I doubt these games have worse communities than others. Also don't think the ads on MMORPG are what keeps the ones not play, from doing it, also.

We are on a mmorog.com site. So its about mmorpg. 

Its just not about this specific ads. Who believe its just about this one sololy? Its a silly straw men argument. Its from this ad, to the art work, to the gamers by themself. 

Game devs are nagging about them having hard times with declinng profit. Well for ones they would maybe try to inlucde not just the male population by letting 12 year old minded art workers do the female clothes. male+female consumers are supposley more profit than just male consumer...

and yeah, a study that says a 1/4 of the gamers are +50 years old. a study that are problaby hard to use mainly because its seems to be built upon attitudes and questions like "do you play electroinc games" and if a person says yes to that questions equals a gamer...

Sorry, but be more specific, because even if this is mainly a MMO site, other genres can and are discussed here, as is gaming in general.

It's not as if all MMOs go for this kind of advertising and let's say "selling point". Most of them don't actually. From recent memory I can only recall Tera, SB and AoC.

Also, the attitude of, oh you don't play core games for at least 4 hours a day, you're not a gamer, is one of the best way to actually keep people that aren't interested yet, from ever being interested in trying more stuff in gaming, in general.

Edit: I knew people over 50 and one person over 60, who were playing WoW, both male and female. Sure it's personal experience, but being over 50 doesn't mean you can't be playing games in general or MMOs in particular.

and we are discussing about a mmorpg.com ad. oh well. lets be more specific.

your survey points torward that games that are made for a hetreogen public is more scuessful. so a mmorpgc.com ad, like the one we are dicussing, is going backward. Its trying to go for only  the male public with silly slogans such as "preper to get whipped..." and art work taken from a 12 year old fantasty. why are they doing that? why is bluntly sexism a selling point for this game? What is their take? 

The survey you are pointing toward is an attitiude servey. its about what a person believe it does for a week. A gamer that is playing for 40 hours a week maybe believe that the gaming time is less than that or a person that plays for 1 hour a week believes its more than that.  What you say you are doing dosent need to reflect what you actually do :) I did never want to say that its about beeing a "true" gamer or not. sorry if I wrote it like that, im not so good with english. 

And I know gamers that are girls, boys, old, young, handicaped and so on. its not about that. Its about that this ad is focused on one narrow consumer perspective. And with that comes some negative aspects, one is that half of the population is more ore less left out. another negative aspect is that its aimed for a male gaze that is so stupid. are we supposed to see the ads and think "bobs! f-sweet! i want boobs. givmegivme. i need to play it naaaow!". Its an ad that are assuming that its main public is thinking like a babon. And for sure, someone will come into this thread and say something catchy as "f- yeah! i freaking love this kind of ads. i dont want to live with out them. moar!" 

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4/26/13 10:13:18 AM#40
I turned on adblock and never looked back.  The benefits of not having the screen cluttered with ads far outweigh the loss of not seeing ads I never cared about in the first place.

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