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General Discussion  » HOGG gets banned for griefing

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  ariasaitcho

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4/25/13 8:26:38 AM#61
Originally posted by Baseline

I don't see the big deal. 

There's dominance with skill, and there's trolling/griefing; this is the latter, and it gets banned in most games.

You can't ask game developers to make sure the game is troll-proof. Better to flat-out ban those people and make examples rather than make compromises in game design.

AV did the right thing, but by the thread title and OP, it makes it sound like someone was exercising organized dominance over other players and they were banned for that. This isn't a case of coordinated players griefing uncoordinated players, it was the case of one blockhead abusing game mechanics and making the experience annoying.

Apparently you didn't read the entire thread and also didn't watch the videos. HOGG isn't the name of the player who was banned, it's the name of the Guild to which he belongs. And it wasn't just him doing that, it was all the members of that guild. More than one player was banned as a result of this. Also if you watched the video you would have seen that they do the exact same thing in every game they play. And they make videos of themselves doing it.

Yo, yo I'm so gangsta I be poppin caps on foos who be in my town. Except I'm not really "poppin", I'm just walking in front of them. And it's at no risk to myself as it's a safe zone, so no one can retaliate against me. Billy? Billy Bad Ass? Your mommy called and said it's dinnertime, so come up out of the basement and wash your hands.

lol What a rube!

  RollieJoe

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4/25/13 8:48:31 AM#62

Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

 

http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

 

There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

  jandrsn

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Joined: 5/29/06
Posts: 190

4/25/13 4:10:09 PM#63
This reminds me of City of Heroes with the pvp zones. One of them allowed villians to tp foe into a watchtower and no one could fix it unless you had tp friend and joined their group. On my server there were at least twenty people who had their toon stuck in there because of one jackass. He got off on screwing random people over, and never got punished for it. That's all he did for a few weeks until the devs fixed it. Then he whined about how everyone was against him and all that. He actually thought other human beings were there for his amusement. And that's why griefers need perma bans. If some jerkoff tried to stop me from using a gas station I'd laugh, because I could either call the cops or whomp his butt. In a game though, they have no reason not to be a jerk. Yay internet!
  itchmon

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4/25/13 5:59:47 PM#64

i hope this guy moves to eve.

 

i would take a few sec hits to blow up this guy's prize possessions a coupla times so he sees how it feels..

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  Arakazi

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4/25/13 6:22:01 PM#65
Griefers are a dime a dozen in MMOs, what makes this guy special?

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  User Deleted
4/25/13 6:43:14 PM#66
Originally posted by RollieJoe

Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

 

http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

 

There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

I wondered the same thing.  Looked on the forums and found where one of the members stated they received a "temporary ban" (wouldn't that just be a suspension?).

https://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?364657-HOGG-Darkfall-Unholy-Wars-Safe-Zone-PVP/page4

Post #56 in particular.

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 7019

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

4/25/13 6:53:13 PM#67

I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.

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  jfoytek

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4/25/13 6:59:03 PM#68
Originally posted by Wizardry

I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.

wow your way off the mark....  You need to watch the video's posted in this thread to understand that the griefing they are doing has absolutely nothing to do with PvP....  They are exploiting game mechanics to anger players like bumping into a person repeatedly when they are attempting to fish, which causes the fishing mechanic to reset....

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  User Deleted
4/25/13 7:09:08 PM#69
Originally posted by Wizardry

I like the fact that they are trying to conduct a good solid business but how is it not hypocritical to create an open eneded pvp game then call it griefing?

The racial slurs of course,but they created this design,are they going to ban themselves for creating griefing?

Also do they not haver safe zones as well?That woudl tell me ,if you go outside the safe zone you are fair game,it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

So it is a plus 1 thumbs up and then a thumbs down at the same time.

All of this "griefing" happened in a safe zone.  Basically, he was just running in front of people while they were trying to get ore and wood (breaking line of sight stops them from mining/logging it seems).  There was no killing or anything, just preventing people in the safe zone place from actually doing anything.

It's really funny listening to that guy trying to act like some alpha male hardore badass, while jumping up and down in front of people in a game.  The first two minutes of the video have him just spouting off about how he's king of this town and if you don't like that, then go play a carebear game.  Of course he's saying all of this like he's some mid-90's wrestler talking pre-fight smack.  Seriously, just pretend it's Macho Man Randy Savage playing an MMO, and that's pretty much it.

What's even better is reading their forums.  You get people whining about how the game is going to fail unless they can throw racial slurs around in general chat, and crap like that.  It's like the entire DFU community is made up of 13 year old sociopaths.

  Hairysun

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Boo ....

4/25/13 7:20:10 PM#70
Originally posted by RollieJoe

Everyone here is talking like some griefers from Hogg got banned, but is that actually known to be true? 

 

http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

 

There's a list of all the supposed bans, which players are these griefers on that list?  I don't see anyone named Hogg or from Hogg clan.

 

A valid point.  I wonder if it was a temporary ban (like for a week) as opposed to a permanent one .

 

~Hairysun

 

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  Wylf

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Posts: 133

4/25/13 7:44:13 PM#71
If it was a temporary ban it's just another reason not to play this game.
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