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Darkfall: Unholy Wars

Darkfall: Unholy Wars 

General Discussion  » Macro's needed to succeed?

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  Lexite

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OP  4/25/13 12:45:35 PM#1

Like the title says, are macro's needed to suceed in this game. Iv'e played many games but I always hated to search for macro's command to have an advantage over others. I know they are macro's in this game..im just wondering if im absoltely gonna need them to be competitive in pvp.

 

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  ego13

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4/25/13 12:48:06 PM#2
Originally posted by Lexite

Like the title says, are macro's needed to suceed in this game. Iv'e played many games but I always hated to search for macro's command to have an advantage over others. I know they are macro's in this game..im just wondering if im absoltely gonna need them to be competitive in pvp.

 

thanks

Do you need to down-shift when you're racing?  No.....but if you're not taking every single advantage you can get in every venue then you won't be competitive vs those that are.

 

This is no different...not required but you're not taking advantage of everything available to you.

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  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 12:50:02 PM#3
Originally posted by Lexite

Like the title says, are macro's needed to suceed in this game. Iv'e played many games but I always hated to search for macro's command to have an advantage over others. I know they are macro's in this game..im just wondering if im absoltely gonna need them to be competitive in pvp.

 

thanks

Probably, yes.

 

http://youtu.be/_Qkm4pG3F0I

 

Try the link above for detailed advice.

  Lexite

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OP  4/25/13 1:41:40 PM#4

I see, thanks

 

Other than pvp and grinding for mats/??, what is there to do in this game? my brother and I are on the fence right now about purshasing this title.

Weve alrdy played some full loot pvp games

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  Jupsto

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4/25/13 2:08:58 PM#5

Unlike df1, you don't need macros at all to play this game competively. just because some people are using them, the one in video just means he can hold left mouse in mele in stead of clicking. its nice and something they should add in game but not something that will really give you an edge.

in df1 all my clan used autohotkey, now I don't think anyone uses anything except maybe naga mice.

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  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 2:16:19 PM#6
Originally posted by Lexite

I see, thanks

 

Other than pvp and grinding for mats/??, what is there to do in this game? my brother and I are on the fence right now about purshasing this title.

Weve alrdy played some full loot pvp games

If you're still not sure after having read the DFUW website and having watched some YouTube footage of gameplay, I'd say don't buy it. 

This is the sort of game where sometimes things don't go your way. So you need a bit of innate enthusiasm.

Only buy stuff you really know you're going to enjoy.

  PAL-18

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4/25/13 2:17:31 PM#7

theres 2 spec trees you need to use in PvE and PvP for special actions.

theres different methods how to use them alt + number and ctrl + number or shift + number is fastes in my opinion.

now lets imagine that you use alt + 6 and and then shift +3 for example and alt +6 doesnt execute and you allready have your fingers at shift +3 then you need to move your fingers back.

compared to someone who have all he need on 1 mouse button or maybe 3.

someone who is using macros or scripts have huge advantage,he only needs wasd and if skills does not execute he just presses same button of his mouse again.

 

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  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 2:44:16 PM#8
Originally posted by PAL-18

theres 2 spec trees you need to use in PvE and PvP for special actions.

theres different methods how to use them alt + number and ctrl + number or shift + number is fastes in my opinion.

now lets imagine that you use alt + 6 and and then shift +3 for example and alt +6 doesnt execute and you allready have your fingers at shift +3 then you need to move your fingers back.

compared to someone who have all he need on 1 mouse button or maybe 3.

someone who is using macros or scripts have huge advantage,he only needs wasd and if skills does not execute he just presses same button of his mouse again.

 

He's right.

 

In addition, using the mouse wheel to select a weapon in the heat of combat is hopeless, unless it's PvE and you are more powerful. So at the very least you need to change some of the key bindings.

  MMO_Fan

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4/25/13 3:20:19 PM#9
Originally posted by Lexite

...are macro's needed to suceed in this game...

 

If you use 10 abilities (30 keystrokes) and 20 melee weapon hits (20 mouse clicks) to kill something - you will use 50 total mouse clicks/keystrokes.

Those of us who are using macros use 11 keystrokes to do the same thing.


If you kill 180 mobs = That's 1980 for the macro user compared to 9000 for the non-macroer.

  PAL-18

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4/25/13 3:32:27 PM#10
Originally posted by MMO_Fan
Originally posted by Lexite

...are macro's needed to suceed in this game...

 

If you use 10 abilities (30 keystrokes) and 20 melee weapon hits (20 mouse clicks) to kill something - you will use 50 total mouse clicks/keystrokes.

Those of us who are using macros use 11 keystrokes to do the same thing.


If you kill 180 mobs = That's 1980 for the macro user compared to 9000 for the non-macroer.

aand it doesnt end here,now that i think more of this i could do something like this.

lets think that i have 2 power attacks,i macro them to one of my mouse buttons and also i macro normal attack there and make it so that it runs all the time,like toggled,second press puts it off.

now I click my mouse once and it repeats the script ,everytime those attacks are available they will launch and if not then my character uses normal attacks,so what i have to do,just aim and enjoy the ride pretty much.

1 click.

 

 

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  jdlamson75

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4/25/13 3:37:23 PM#11
That's fine and great for PvE, but pressing one key and sitting back during a PvP engagement is folly. 
  ellobo29

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4/25/13 3:47:21 PM#12

"Weve alrdy played some full loot pvp games" oh really lexite? 

which full loot pvp games are u speaking of? if i deem them any good maybe i will check them out.

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  Naowut

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4/26/13 1:26:18 AM#13

You don't need any macro's in Darkfall Unholy wars.

The only macro's I use are macro's on my naga to make some spells instant cast instead of selecting first before activating.

This is just convenience.

  MegaD61

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4/26/13 5:53:23 AM#14
I play DFUW alot. I use a razor naga mouse but I use NO macros at all. There is really no need for macros in DFUW what so ever. Which is amazing cuz DF1 required alot.
  corpusc

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4/26/13 8:29:00 AM#15

no need for macros at all in this version of Darkfall.

 

toggle macros that will eat food every food_cooldown seconds, or quaff potions every potion_cooldown seconds would be nice, and i'll make them in the future, but i don't use any gameplay macros at all currently.  just not needed.

 

if you hate having seperate activation keys for each radial wheel (btw, all those should be selectable with keybinds so you have immediate access without compromising your aiming) , i can see using macros that let you use just one activation button for both wheels.  but i like having 2 selected abilities personally.

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i don't expect to like Darkfall, altho i may like it MORE than other MMOs. i know it is gonna have a very frustrating level of grind to it, even if its significantly less than most. waiting for a pure FAST action virtual world. dice rolling & character levels (even "skills") IN COMBAT should have never carried over from pencil & paper to a computer that can reasonably model 3D spaces and objects

  cirsyndic

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4/26/13 8:33:16 AM#16
I have not felt the need or inclination to macro anything in DFUW, the prowess system in combination with treasure maps/chaos chests promotes actively playing the game.