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  Seelinnikoi

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4/24/13 5:04:28 PM#21
Originally posted by GabboFunes
Originally posted by Hairysun
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

 

Perhaps you should offer up your account to some of these curious folks.  That way is would only be a sub fee at most to them.

 

~Hairysun

 

 

That would be awesome, lol.

I can't give it away for free, but message me with some offers. :)

  GabboFunes

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OP  4/24/13 5:27:36 PM#22
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi
Originally posted by GabboFunes
Originally posted by Hairysun
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

 

Perhaps you should offer up your account to some of these curious folks.  That way is would only be a sub fee at most to them.

 

~Hairysun

 

 

That would be awesome, lol.

I can't give it away for free, but message me with some offers. :)

The point of the thread was to actually have a chance of trying the game without paying for something that i don't know if i'm gonna like. :P

  Hotjazz

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4/24/13 6:31:22 PM#23
Originally posted by Hairysun
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

 

Perhaps you should offer up your account to some of these curious folks.  That way is would only be a sub fee at most to them.

Haha, awesome idea.

Let the mmorpg guys try out the game for seven days each. Then you don`t have to scare them away with words, you can accually show them you are right. Think about it like community work for only 15$ a month. The good part for you, is that someone will slowly level your char for free. If Darkfall gets better in months ahead, it would save you some serious grinding. It`s a win win for you and us fanboys. We might get a few new players, you will show people you are right and get a high level char.

All for the small sum of 15$ a month. :)

  Azdul

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4/25/13 1:09:34 AM#24
Originally posted by General-Zod
My advice would be to get the game now while most players are still trying to learn what works because by the time the trial comes out the game will be filled with beast and other foul things.

I think waiting for the free trial may be actually good decision.

Currently we have rat race to 15k - 20k prowess, with people who got there chasing off slackers from best spawns. So you're competing with people playing 24/7 for the control of 50-100 spawns outside the safe zone. It's quite fun - but requires some dedication for a week or two to get PvP ready char.

At some point  AV will make getting 20k prowess easier, and new features will bring new ways to get prowess. And top hardcore players will move on to guild warfare, leaving some breathing space for new players / casuals.

  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 3:49:09 AM#25

I agree - there should be a trial - this game is like Marmite - you either love it or hate it.

It's so different from games such as WoW or GW2 that people need to know what they're buying.

Full-loot PvP isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, that's for sure.

Personally, I enjoy playing DFUW - it's an MMORPG for adults.

  gchris7

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4/25/13 4:41:29 AM#26

I cant think of any mmorpg that has given free trial right on release. Would be a terrible marketing descision imo.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

4/25/13 6:39:34 AM#27
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

Precisely. They did exactly the same thing with the first Darkfall.

They won't make a trial before a long time, all they hope is that some people give in and buy the game before they are able to see how crappy it is.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 10:41:22 AM#28
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

Precisely. They did exactly the same thing with the first Darkfall.

They won't make a trial before a long time, all they hope is that some people give in and buy the game before they are able to see how crappy it is.

It's not crap, it's just very very different from your favourite game, GW2.

GW2 and DFUW are two games at the very opposite ends of the spectrum.

DFUW is PvP-orientated, GW2 is PvE orientated.

DFUW requires crafting, GW2 doesn't.

DFUW is all on 1 server, depending on  whether you live in the EU/US. GW2 has many many different servers.

DFUW is practically first-person perspective, GW2 is viewed from a view point 20 meters above the avatar.

DFUW has no quests - you set your own objectives. GW2 is a themepark. 

 

Do you see what I mean?

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

4/25/13 10:48:58 AM#29
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

Precisely. They did exactly the same thing with the first Darkfall.

They won't make a trial before a long time, all they hope is that some people give in and buy the game before they are able to see how crappy it is.

It's not crap, it's just very very different from your favourite game, GW2.

GW2 and DFUW are two games at the very opposite ends of the spectrum.

DFUW is PvP-orientated, GW2 is PvE orientated.

DFUW requires crafting, GW2 doesn't.

DFUW is all on 1 server, depending on  whether you live in the EU/US. GW2 has many many different servers.

DFUW is practically first-person perspective, GW2 is viewed from a view point 20 meters above the avatar.

DFUW has no quests - you set your own objectives. GW2 is a themepark. 

 

Do you see what I mean?

And I was playing MMORPGs before many people posting here even knew computers and Internet existed. I was playing Ultima Online during the beta, 17+ years ago. I'm not stuck in "themeparks", I was playing graphical MMOs before theme parks even existed, and I'm actually still waiting for a sandbox MMORPG as good as UO but with modern technology.

You see what I mean?

I won't praise every single non-themepark MMO just because it's not a themepark, like some here seem to do. I know to make the difference between a crappy attempt at something and a good game. And this game is poor on almost every aspects, from performance to polish and content, and of course developer incompetence. It's not a themepark, it's not a sandbox (a game without the sand and without the tools to shape it isn't a sandbox), it's just a gankfest. Actually, the first Darkfall may even have been better.

Don't worry, I won't be around much longer since I don't intend to give those scam developers one more cent, and even less a monthly subscription, and I don't post on forums of games I don't play. But from my experience in beta and now, I advise people to wait for  a trial, even if it takes months (as it will knowing aventurine). Don't waste your money on this bugged pile of steaming crap.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Mors.Magne

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Joined: 3/02/07
Posts: 1425

4/25/13 10:57:24 AM#30
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Mors.Magne
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is no trial.

They wont let you see how crap this game is, so they entice you to buy it and regret it later.

Wish I could turn back time and save those 29 euros.

Precisely. They did exactly the same thing with the first Darkfall.

They won't make a trial before a long time, all they hope is that some people give in and buy the game before they are able to see how crappy it is.

It's not crap, it's just very very different from your favourite game, GW2.

GW2 and DFUW are two games at the very opposite ends of the spectrum.

DFUW is PvP-orientated, GW2 is PvE orientated.

DFUW requires crafting, GW2 doesn't.

DFUW is all on 1 server, depending on  whether you live in the EU/US. GW2 has many many different servers.

DFUW is practically first-person perspective, GW2 is viewed from a view point 20 meters above the avatar.

DFUW has no quests - you set your own objectives. GW2 is a themepark. 

 

Do you see what I mean?

And I was playing MMORPGs before many people posting here even knew computers and Internet existed. I was playing Ultima Online during the beta, 17+ years ago. I'm not stuck in "themepark", actually I'm still waiting for a sandbox game as good as UO with modern technology.

You see what I mean?

I won't praise every single non-themepark MMO just because it's not a themepark, like some here seem to do. I know to make the difference between a crappy attempt at something and a good game. And this game is poor on almost every aspects, from performance to polish and content, and of course developer incompetence. It's not a themepark, it's not a sandbox (a game without the sand and without the tools to shape it isn't a sandbox), it's just a gankfest. Actually, the first Darkfall may even have been better.

I think the problem here is what people define as a 'sandbox'.

The truest sandbox I have ever come across is Minecraft - where you can build any structure you like any where you like. The cubes are the grains of sand.

There are Minecraft servers - have you tried them?

Games like Eve and DFUW are not really 'sandboxes' - this is an unforunate phrase that the Eve marketing team thought up to differentiate their product in the market.

A more accurate term for Eve and Darkfall should be 'simulator'. 

So, what I'm saying is that you might find satisfaction with a Minecraft server. But you'd have to chose the right server for you because they are all different.

 

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/25/13 11:01:58 AM#31

I play Minecraft, but it's not a MMORPG, not even remotely close. I don't even understand how you can suggest it as a substitute to a MMORPG.

And EvE is a 1000x better game than Darkfall will ever be. EvE is a sandbox. EvE's developers aren't arrogant amateurs trying to scam customers with an unfinished and bugged game. Darkfall, both versions, is a wannabee sandbox without sand and without the box. A PvP gankfest with some MMO features added to it is not automatically a sandbox, and even less a good one.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 11:18:27 AM#32
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

I play Minecraft, but it's not a MMORPG, not even remotely close. I don't even understand how you can suggest it as a substitute to a MMORPG.

And EvE is a 1000x better game than Darkfall will ever be. EvE is a sandbox. EvE's developers aren't arrogant amateurs trying to scam customers with an unfinished and bugged game. Darkfall, both versions, is a wannabee sandbox without sand and without the box. A PvP gankfest with some MMO features added to it is not automatically a sandbox, and even less a good one.

I thought you might play Minecraft !

I think it could play like an MMORPG - depending on the server. 

For example, if you used a PvP Minecraft server, you have the option of being a lone wolf and avoiding everyone while exploring. Alternatively, you could join a group - I suspect you would end up playing a role within that team. Hence MMORPG.

 

Eve is a completely different sort of simulator compared to DFUW. Personally, I prefer DFUW to Eve at the moment because I like the scenary of DFUW and I can identify more with my avatar - a person rather than a ship.

Darkfall seems like a finished enough game for my enjoyment.

I can undertand why you would fall for the charms of CCP - they have a superb PR / marketing team. The CSM and videos such as 'The Butterfly Effect' (Do you remember the punchline - "some people call it chaos theory...we call it the sandbox") are great PR.  For example, you truly do believe that Eve really is a sandbox! But if you really think about it, it isn't - it's a simulator.

 

 

 

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/25/13 11:53:17 AM#33

I will only add one prediction before I leave this thread, Mors - you're going to feel very lonely here soon. If your overly positive posts with a lot of exagerations about the quality of the game make people here actually buy the game, the "backdraft" onces they notice they got screwed is going to be pretty bad.

Good luck.

Playing now: Archeage, WoW, Landmark, GW2

Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO and GW2.

"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent" - Qui-gon Jinn. After many years of reading Internet forums, there's no doubt that neither does the ability to write.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

4/25/13 11:54:35 AM#34

Darkfall 1 had a trial.

 

It required payment.  You had to pay for a trial of Darkfall.

 

Stay away from this game and anything Aventurine touches.

El Psy Congroo

  NasherUK

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4/25/13 12:27:36 PM#35
Originally posted by Toodles
if a game in his age in the genre isn't offering a free trial, it's because it sucks.

That's not entirely true.  It can be because letting free trial players in would cause overloaded servers.  But most of the time yea, it's because it sucks and they want to milk unsuspecting customers of money.  Darkfall isn't exactly overflowing with players, so.....

  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 12:56:02 PM#36
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

I will only add one prediction before I leave this thread, Mors - you're going to feel very lonely here soon. If your overly positive posts with a lot of exagerations about the quality of the game make people here actually buy the game, the "backdraft" onces they notice they got screwed is going to be pretty bad.

Good luck.

Actually, I'm usually fantastically jaded and skeptical.

I hate games that have an end game, because I feel there should always be something new to explore.

However, I think it would take a long time to explore Darkfall.

  Mors.Magne

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4/25/13 12:59:21 PM#37
Originally posted by NasherUK
Originally posted by Toodles
if a game in his age in the genre isn't offering a free trial, it's because it sucks.

That's not entirely true.  It can be because letting free trial players in would cause overloaded servers.  But most of the time yea, it's because it sucks and they want to milk unsuspecting customers of money.  Darkfall isn't exactly overflowing with players, so.....

The starter areas are so full at peak times that it's hard to find a single tree to farm.

If there was a free trial, it might get exploited by gold-sellers.

So having free trials would not be entirely problem free.

  GabboFunes

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OP  4/26/13 1:42:35 PM#38

I just went to the official forums, it seems that there's some threads about this same issue.

Who knows, maybe they add a trial soon, let's wait and see.

 

In the meantime, i accept any accounts of people raging like kids who don't play anymore, to taste the game a little. ^^

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4/26/13 4:48:33 PM#39

Trials got abused by gold spammers and farmers in 1.0...and back then we were able to push them out of tower range and gank them...cant really do that now with safe zones.

I dont want trials again.

 

If you like full loot pvp sandbox games youll love this game.  Thats all the trial you need lol.

 

Actually, go play Mortal online for free.  Its like that game but with a working and fun combat system and people actually playing...and more than a few pve mobs to kill.

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