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  Badaboom

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4/24/13 11:34:02 AM#21
Originally posted by MMO_Fan

@Badaboom, Greymoor and Uzik:

As the most vocal fans of this game - how many accounts do you own or have access to in game?

Do you think having multiple accounts make the game more fun and makes it worth it?

I have one account.  I'm in a clan that has a dedicated crafter account.  So most of the mats we get are all fed to that account.  So I just have to go in to the bank and take the gear and weapon that I want, which is nice. 

Multiple accounts could be beneficial if you are looking for more of a solo experience without the help of a guild so that you can be somewhat self sufficient.  AV just announced today that the Market will be implemented very soon, so take their word for what it is worth.  The market should connect crafters and buyers though, so that should be good.

If you have anyother questions, feel free to PM me.

  mxking

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4/24/13 11:35:03 AM#22

arbacus,

 

most people use their ALTERNATE accounts, not bots, to make the game more enjoyable for them.  I personally have two accounts because I DO NOT enjoy harvesting.  I don't want to watch my character swing at a bush, rock, tree, or water all day long just so I can have gear.  I would rather play 2 accounts and once and enjoy the combat of the game rather than spend 3 nights a week harvesting and watching movies.  That's not fun for me.  This is the reason most people use alternate accounts to gather with while playing their main account.

I don't understand how anyone could enjoy harvesting... it's so boring.

  Panther2103

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4/24/13 11:39:01 AM#23
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by arbacus

My impressions after a week of play

game is full of multiboxers for shared crafting accounts and p2win rmt traders otherwise i loved the crafting/gathering

if you were not multiboxing gatheres to supplement your characters equipment you were at a extreme disadvantage i expect this will kill the population to nothing but multiboxers over the first few weeks of the game as some will go and go and go gear poofing(death and durability loss) not very costly due to their boxed gatherers/crafters others will come to a realization of this like me and get turned me off the game.

 

pvp feels clunky and the skill invovles is just making the clunkiness and lag work for you better than the other guy to avoid/land more hits but im sure i would have grown to like it more had i been motivated to play more

when you get attacked in pvp its ususally by  more peopel than you have when you pvp its with more people ganking xpers. Therefore you end up running almost every fight you are attacked and not getting challenged almsot every fight you enage really silly. again if i had found a rvr guild maybe this would have turned into more balanced enjoyable fights but i did not feel motivated to do so by the overall gameplay and experience it was hard to even communicate in the game with annoying ui elements like the chat system

another issue i had with pvp is half of my deaths ended up being from my game crashing and me comming back to a bindstone naked character nothing more frustrating than playing a full loot game that takes the control out of the players hands like this im confident i could hvae gotten away 90% of these deaths being a crafty scirmisher

 

The pve was basically just grind this wtih right spell or weapon type for this much time and move on to next grouping was only encouraged through small prowesse gains and only at certain player #s most spawns seemed to work best with 2 real players and 1 boxed player that would just sit int he camp to makes spawns faster which is even more p2win bullcrap the feat system which was the easy way to get prowesse early on(while they are available as they are non-repeatable kill/gather quests for the most part) would only update on your killshots so you had to lose efficiency organizing killshots with teamates or just take seperate monsters alltogether.

 However i only worked through to 16-17k prowese.  Basicaly the entire time i thought why am i even required to do this? why can i just go fight players?  

The treasure maps were awesome tho i loved doing those maybe my favorite part of the game you would fish these up double click them and work on making the green light blink faster until it became solid then you dug up your reward with a shovel.

 

 

overall my impression of the game from a new player to the darkfall series was a generally poor experience i was expecting better things from a pvp sandbox mmo.

for me the game stability/pay2win aspects were all it took for me to no feel like progresing was worth it

Hang in there.  Try and get in some sieges later, but use this time now to build your character.  The game really shines when you are in vent with guildies, all grouped up and working towards a common goal.

Like EVE, Darkfall is a lonely game if your trying to make it on your own.

You are right about the treasure hunting being fun though.  Last night, I went to a hag spawn to work on some feats, but the three people occupying the spawn killed me.  When I respawned, a chaos chest was right beside the bindstone and when I looted it, there was a small treasure map inside.  So while I was waiting for the hag spawn to be clear,  I started fishing and got a medium treasure map.  Anyways, got tired of waiting and guildies summoned me up to some grungocs and started working on those. 

i did join a guild i wont say which one cause there were some cool people in it i dont want to shine a bad light on but thats where i  witnissed and learneda bout much of the multiboxing/account sharing that goes on in the game also about every random perosn i grouped with at monster spawns would offer to bring their tgathering bot to increase spawn rate. really discusting

I doubt it was a bot, it was probably just an extra account they left on gathering whatever type of material they needed. Any game that has crafting or any sort of advantage to having two accounts people will do it. I remember playing Lineage 2 and grouping with people that would run 5 or 6 accounts at once to get every buff in the game that would benefit their class, if it's possible it will happen. It isn't just in Darkfall.

  Dahkoht

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Joined: 4/03/13
Posts: 289

4/24/13 11:43:21 AM#24

I really enjoy the idea of the game. I am completely willing to go the risks of full loot open world pvp , no hand holding mostly etc.

Even after all these years my favorite kind of gameplay is original EQ/harsh death penalties/danger/repurcussion etc type things.

Just makes games more fun for me.

 

My issue is this , with my more limited game time , I am still more than willing and prefer to have games take longer to level/craft/explore and so on , in fact I also prefer this.

But no longer have the time nor patience to fight bugs/gameplay issues/UI with less options than in 1999.

Many try and say the audience has moved on for these types of games , but my issue is I loved the concept and actual gamplay (when it worked ok) for the few days I played last week.

But I cannot give a pass on the fact that EQ at launch in 99 let me modify my chat more than this game (for one example.)  And for another example (and well documented one) , when you create your character you might actually have to try 2 or 20 times to actually be able to type in the character name field.

It just had too many little and not so little bugs that added up to make it not worth my time.

I can handle the danger of being jumped , group battles , pve mixed with open world danger from PVP most all the time and so on , as said I prefer it.

I don't expect an mmorpg to be "bug free" , but this game currently just has too many issues.

I don't want to "fight the game" to play it in other words.

 

  arbacus

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Posts: 38

4/24/13 11:52:31 AM#25

most guilds seem to be against botting but who needs to bot you just run the char up to a node and hit left click for the next 10 min then you look over sit  him for 30 seconds move on to next node repeat and having "ALTERNATE" accounts is pay to win you are buying an advantage in a game where gathering is so imporant and simply done.

 

Also people would share their account info around so people would box them and gather with them while they were not playing equally rediculous.

  tomwodi

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Posts: 52

4/24/13 12:17:33 PM#26
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.
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  Dreamo84

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I actually still like MMORPGs

4/24/13 12:20:48 PM#27
There's no actual sand in this box. Great concepts though but feels old school in all the wrong ways too.

  Jupsto

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Posts: 2107

4/24/13 12:20:51 PM#28
"changing the video settings results in a crash"
 
actually it just freezes for a long time, its stupid but have some patience ;p
 
also wtf. launch was completely solid. took ages to download yes, but servers didnt crash or have any problems at launch, so its better than pretty much every other mmo launch.
 

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  Raventree

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4/24/13 12:24:14 PM#29
Originally posted by Fendel84M
There's no actual sand in this box. Great concepts though but feels old school in all the wrong ways too.

This is why I am a fan of themeparks and hate sandbox games.  I have never once found any real sand in the box.  I mean come on, I paid $60 for the game and when I open it up...nothing.

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  DAS1337

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4/24/13 12:28:18 PM#30
You wouldn't need multiple accounts if they added multiple character slots per account.  Maybe they will stop being greedy after they realize their re-launch worked to gain them significantly more subs.
  Badaboom

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4/24/13 12:31:31 PM#31
Originally posted by DAS1337
You wouldn't need multiple accounts if they added multiple character slots per account.  Maybe they will stop being greedy after they realize their re-launch worked to gain them significantly more subs.

One of the best features of the game is the one character per account.  You can and will create a name for yourself...for the good or bad.  Your actions could cause long term consequences as well.

 

  User Deleted
4/24/13 12:32:38 PM#32
After having played df1 for a year or so, it simply doesn't sound like they changed much, except superficially.
  attckdog

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4/24/13 12:32:39 PM#33
Originally posted by arbacus

My impressions after a week of play

game is full of multiboxers for shared crafting accounts and p2win rmt traders otherwise i loved the crafting/gathering

 

A week of play isn't a good look at an MMO. Period. That's true for any MMO

Claiming that there are nothing but multiboxers and Pay to win stuff is so incredibly false I had to find my login and password to point it out. 

There are absoultly people with more than one account. I myself have 2. Have I even logged into the other account Nope. I haven't the found a good enough reason to do so. Why give away the Prowess gains to an alt??? Play the game a bit more before claiming something like that. 

What's this about Pay to win. You cannot buy anything with real cash. There isn't even Micro transaction to do so? Are you confused? If there is a black market of some sort that is 100% agianst the ToS and is going to get people banned. Not to many people would risk getting their charactor banned. This isn't like other MMO's where you can make countless alts. 1 character per server. You get banned you get your name added to a very public list with all information posted including your clan. 

 

TL;DR: Don't listen to anyone with a 1 week experience in MMO's....

  Uzik

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4/24/13 12:34:04 PM#34
Anyone who doesn't understand why DFUW is 1 character per account doesn't understand the importance of accountability in an open-PvP, full-loot game.

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
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  arbacus

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4/24/13 12:37:58 PM#35
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

just because im sharing my experience and it is a negative one does not mean im some kind of angry troll it means i just did not like the game and would share why so that maybe it could do some good saving someone who shares my views some money or maybe help future developers learn from mistakes

 

grinding isnt a problem i have played 100s of real life days in grinding games i even dont mind the gathering in the game but the feat system in this game is silly its clunky in how it clashes with group play knowing the levelign path for the feat system that is most efficient is the difference between 55k in 2 days and  4 weeks regardless of player ability what kind of launch is that? 2 days into a launch and players who knew the game had this much advantage over those who are new? i have played a lot of mmos and this is ludicrous i have been outleveld before but never this horribly this fast simply bad design not just bad its horrible. 

  Uzik

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4/24/13 12:39:54 PM#36
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

just because im sharing my experience and it is a negative one does not mean im some kind of angry troll it means i just did not like the game and would share why so that maybe it could do some good saving someone who shares my views some money or maybe help future developers learn from mistakes

 

grinding isnt a problem i have played 100s of real life days in grinding games i even dont mind the gathering in the game but the feat system in this game is silly its clunky in how it clashes with group play knowing the levelign path for the feat system that is most efficient is the difference between 55k in 2 days and  4 weeks regardless of player ability what kind of launch is that? 2 days into a launch and players who knew the game had this much advantage over those who are new? i have played a lot of mmos and this is ludicrous i have been outleveld before but never this horribly this fast simply bad design not just bad its horrible. 

 

Are you playing with a clan?

Did you play DF1 extensively?

Did you play the DFUW beta extensively?

How many hours a day have you been playing?

Have you ever tried using a harvesting alt?

 

Serious questions, please answer

(Uzik ibnYaraq in game. Always willing to help.)
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  arbacus

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4/24/13 12:49:50 PM#37
Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

just because im sharing my experience and it is a negative one does not mean im some kind of angry troll it means i just did not like the game and would share why so that maybe it could do some good saving someone who shares my views some money or maybe help future developers learn from mistakes

 

grinding isnt a problem i have played 100s of real life days in grinding games i even dont mind the gathering in the game but the feat system in this game is silly its clunky in how it clashes with group play knowing the levelign path for the feat system that is most efficient is the difference between 55k in 2 days and  4 weeks regardless of player ability what kind of launch is that? 2 days into a launch and players who knew the game had this much advantage over those who are new? i have played a lot of mmos and this is ludicrous i have been outleveld before but never this horribly this fast simply bad design not just bad its horrible. 

 

Are you playing with a clan?

Did you play DF1 extensively?

Did you play the DFUW beta extensively?

How many hours a day have you been playing?

Have you ever tried using a harvesting alt?

 

Serious questions, please answer

i was playing in a clan

 

i did not play df1 at all

 

i played december beta until archeage beta which started jan 2

 

 10-15 hours a day

 

no i havnt i harvested myself

  Badaboom

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 2389

4/24/13 1:05:39 PM#38
Originally posted by arbacus
Originally posted by tomwodi
@Arbacus
pay2win? Lol dude...

So you are mad with the game couze someone can buy 2 acounts? ROFL

Say that the game is "just grind" and "p2w" is just lie... You dont know the mean of the word... Try hard dude.

how is buying 2 accounts not pay to win you are paying for an advantage in darkfall having more than 1 account substansially increases your recource acquisition allowing for faster progression more fodder gear basicaly puts you in a whole different league from someone ho only bought 1 account

 

Buying 2 accounts is not pay to win.  It does help AV though.

  Pie_Rat

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Joined: 7/02/05
Posts: 294

4/24/13 1:07:14 PM#39

I'm loving it so far. Their engine needs tweaking though, it sucks and makes the game feel a little clunky. Also regional auction houses would be a great addition to stimulate trade.

The character progression is addictive, the world is vast, open and gorgeous. The combat takes some getting used to and is negatively affected by the crappy engine (getting mini freezes during combat, while shooting at a moving target sucks).

If you have an above average PC and enjoy old school sandboxy MMOs with lots of crafting and full loot PvP, this is the game for you.

 

  rommello

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Joined: 4/12/12
Posts: 204

hallo ~_~

4/24/13 1:32:26 PM#40
this game is for diferent folks i guess coz i just could not get into it at all

hallo ~_~

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