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  Arbroath

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4/23/13 9:28:30 PM#41
Originally posted by Acidon
Originally posted by Isturi
Originally posted by Rednecksith
A lot can happen in a week...

Oh I agree and I am hoping trust me. It just seems that ones rep could be at stake if it did not happen. I mean look at Curt Shilling for example he belived in 38 studios until it busted him now I am willing to bet that with his rep shot he prob wont get any kind of backing now for a MMO game even if he wanted.

 

I'm not for this game myself, but your posts make me think you may not know what a reputation is.  Personally, I can't see how Mark's rep would be damaged because the KS didn't fully fund.   That is already an impressive amount of people putting their money where their mouth is regarding what they want in a game.

I'm not *for* CU, but I have nothing against it.  And I do hope it funds.  I know a lot of you are excited about it.

 

Thanks for a friendly, unbiased opinion, mate....refreshing

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  BeansnBread

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4/23/13 9:35:33 PM#42

I see a lot of people that think of his reputation as being already being ruined based on WAR and DAoC ToA. Even with all that, he still appears to have a loyal following.

 

I doubt a Kickstarter failure will change anyone's opinion either way. If CU ends up funding and then ends up being trash, then yeah, based on how vocal and public this thing has been, his credibility and reputation will take a massive hit.

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  comicguy

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4/23/13 9:40:25 PM#43

His reputation will only be damaged if it funds and it flops.

 

His reputation is poor as it is so not funding will not hurt him.

 

 

  SBE1

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4/23/13 9:51:29 PM#44

Hold on.   Failure of kickstarter to ruin MJ's reputation?   Are you kidding me? 

MJ, the man who brought us Trials of Atlantis.

MJ, the man who brought us the enhanced class balance tools that lead to Bright wizards on 90 Warhammer servers, no wait, 60 servers, no wait, 40 servers, no wait, 20 servers, no wait, 10 servers, no wait 4 servers.

Yah, as if a failed kickstarter campaign will be his biggest goof in the MMO land...... 

Laugh, the only thing missing from his resume is making SWG NGE.  Too bad someone else claimed the prize for worst expansion of all time.  Trials of Atantis was dethroned.

  Shadanwolf

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4/23/13 9:56:15 PM#45
IMO his reputation is among the worst in the gaming industry.I don't know how it can get any worse.
  mysticalspam

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Joined: 8/20/10
Posts: 68

4/23/13 10:10:23 PM#46
i would like to see MJ step foot into a games day... the table top warhammer crowd  would  skin him  alive and burned at the stake  for what he did to warhammer lore... lol... i don't think many people in EU would back his KS since warhammer is like a religion over there..

  aesperus

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4/23/13 10:15:51 PM#47
Originally posted by colddog04

I see a lot of people that think of his reputation as being already being ruined based on WAR and DAoC ToA. Even with all that, he still appears to have a loyal following.

 

I doubt a Kickstarter failure will change anyone's opinion either way. If CU ends up funding and then ends up being trash, then yeah, based on how vocal and public this thing has been, his credibility and reputation will take a massive hit.

This ^.

It'd be much worse for his reputation if the game gets funded, and ends up either sucking or falling severely short of people's expectations.

  Danwarr

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Posts: 190

"Prepare for Titanfall."

4/23/13 10:16:06 PM#48
I blame WAR on EA more than anything. EA is really only still in the industry to turn a profit, not make quality gaming entertainment.

Waiting: CU, WildStar, Destiny, Eternal Crusade
Playing: ESO,DCUO
Played: LotRO,RIFT,ToR,Warhammer, Runescape

  aesperus

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4/23/13 10:21:34 PM#49
Originally posted by Danwarr
I blame WAR on EA more than anything. EA is really only still in the industry to turn a profit, not make quality gaming entertainment.

I had a lot of fun with WAR, and EA definitely played a big part in the handling of the game. However, not all the decisions can be placed on EA, and it's kinda difficult to really separate the bad decisions from those made by mythic and those made by the publisher.

  Outis

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Posts: 101

4/23/13 10:29:55 PM#50
Originally posted by Hjamnr
Negative waves, man.

LOL, I love this

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OP  4/23/13 10:55:06 PM#51
Originally posted by Arbroath
Originally posted by Acidon
Originally posted by Isturi
Originally posted by Rednecksith
A lot can happen in a week...

Oh I agree and I am hoping trust me. It just seems that ones rep could be at stake if it did not happen. I mean look at Curt Shilling for example he belived in 38 studios until it busted him now I am willing to bet that with his rep shot he prob wont get any kind of backing now for a MMO game even if he wanted.

 

I'm not for this game myself, but your posts make me think you may not know what a reputation is.  Personally, I can't see how Mark's rep would be damaged because the KS didn't fully fund.   That is already an impressive amount of people putting their money where their mouth is regarding what they want in a game.

I'm not *for* CU, but I have nothing against it.  And I do hope it funds.  I know a lot of you are excited about it.

 

Thanks for a friendly, unbiased opinion, mate....refreshing

Yes ty, See I did not want to make it seem I was picking on MJ If I were to in my OP bring up what some of  what some has ready said about WAR and DAoC ToA. I do of course know what a REPUTATION is, sure it is agreed he makes money for a lot of people, but that money is made from the consumer. Do gamers feel that they been let down enough by MJ that if CU did not fund, will gamers shy away from him because his track record failed to deliver and these games were fully funded. To me that perhaps maybe his Reputation might be damaged at that point? Hence that is why I used Curt and 38 as a example. Sorry maybe I did not write it properly enough for some to understand.

  augustgrace

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4/23/13 11:01:47 PM#52
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Danwarr
I blame WAR on EA more than anything. EA is really only still in the industry to turn a profit, not make quality gaming entertainment.

I had a lot of fun with WAR, and EA definitely played a big part in the handling of the game. However, not all the decisions can be placed on EA, and it's kinda difficult to really separate the bad decisions from those made by mythic and those made by the publisher.

Especially given that MJ and the crew were working on WAR before EA ever got involved.

  Danwarr

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"Prepare for Titanfall."

4/23/13 11:28:28 PM#53
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Danwarr
I blame WAR on EA more than anything. EA is really only still in the industry to turn a profit, not make quality gaming entertainment.

I had a lot of fun with WAR, and EA definitely played a big part in the handling of the game. However, not all the decisions can be placed on EA, and it's kinda difficult to really separate the bad decisions from those made by mythic and those made by the publisher.

WAR was fun for me just because I could play a Warhammer Orc. I love those guys. 40k Orks are my favorite though. Additionally, I really enjoyed the PvP and public questing.

But the class balance was out of whack and the servers were terrible. That's what killed the game for me. I don't know if these issues were due to Mythic's iincompetence, or EA not wanting to give Mythic the time and resources to fully devote to an MMO.

EA sort of did the same thing with ToR. The game really lacked initial post-launch development and there were some really bad class imbalances.

Waiting: CU, WildStar, Destiny, Eternal Crusade
Playing: ESO,DCUO
Played: LotRO,RIFT,ToR,Warhammer, Runescape

  Xthos

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Posts: 2650

4/23/13 11:32:50 PM#54

The kickstarter is not looking good, but I hope it does fund for those that want to play it.  I may get it when it comes out, but I am uncertain on a couple things.  If it gets close, I may give a couple bucks to help push it, even if I don't like it, it isn't going to kill me.....Heck I paid for 2 copies of GW2 and I played one session and havent played it again, wasnt for me, and my wife played it like 3 times and didn't like it either.

 

  ZedTheRock

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Joined: 4/15/13
Posts: 175

4/24/13 12:58:52 AM#55
Originally posted by Isturi

Sadly as we draw to what looks like a no go for CU will gamers back up MJ and still support his future endevors. Or do you think that MJ should step out of the MMO spotlight for ahwile and get his prospective's in place before he comes up with anouther kickstarter or for that matter before he tries his hand at another MMO title.

Your thoughts are welcome.

HAHAHA MJ killed his reputation years ago with the colloseal joke that was Warhammer Online.

SUP

  aesperus

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Posts: 4758

4/24/13 1:12:15 AM#56
Originally posted by Danwarr
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Danwarr
I blame WAR on EA more than anything. EA is really only still in the industry to turn a profit, not make quality gaming entertainment.

I had a lot of fun with WAR, and EA definitely played a big part in the handling of the game. However, not all the decisions can be placed on EA, and it's kinda difficult to really separate the bad decisions from those made by mythic and those made by the publisher.

WAR was fun for me just because I could play a Warhammer Orc. I love those guys. 40k Orks are my favorite though. Additionally, I really enjoyed the PvP and public questing.

But the class balance was out of whack and the servers were terrible. That's what killed the game for me. I don't know if these issues were due to Mythic's iincompetence, or EA not wanting to give Mythic the time and resources to fully devote to an MMO.

EA sort of did the same thing with ToR. The game really lacked initial post-launch development and there were some really bad class imbalances.

Aye, I personally despise EA as a company atm. They have a LONG track record of gutting good studios for a quick buck. That said, there were a LOT of issues w/ WAR.

2/3rds of the game got scrapped shortly before release, tons of bugs and (as you mentioned) questionable class balance. I think that's more on Mythic than EA tbh. It shows they both bit off way more than they could chew, and as a result rushed certain features they shouldn't have. EA pushing launch just seems to have accelerated the problem. It's funny, though, because the PvP & IP was enough to keep me playing it for a while. I used to be a huge warhammer fan, but they've had a shortage of good games =/.

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