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  Golelorn

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4/21/13 4:46:11 PM#121
I expect a game that cost 60 bucks to get better reviews. Yes, you've found it for $33. Maybe once its down to $20 I'll have enough courage to try it out. Not there yet, though.
  JeroKane

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4/21/13 4:57:34 PM#122
Originally posted by fallenlords
Originally posted by JeroKane

 Oh please. You didn't like TSW. We get it and that is no big deal.

TSW launch was actually a very smooth launch, especially for Funcom standards.

The game itself was very polished with little issues. Sure it had some exploits that needed to be cracked down and the banhammer swung left and right.

DEFIANCE is a disgrace, especially since TRION delivered such a highly polished product before (RIFT).

I can't remember TSW having a complete disfunctional chat system at launch.

I can't remember TSW having you lose items out of your inventory left and right.

I can't remember TSW having you lose progress and skill points at random.

And then we are not even talking about all the hacks that are currently going rampant in this game, with people running damage hacks and one shotting world bosses in major Arkfalls for example. lol. /facepalm

Currently the DEFIANCE servers are down again for 9 hours and counting.

 

The TSW launch was good by Funcom standards, but then those standards were pretty low to begin with so I don't it's anything to crow about.  You can't really get worse than releasing a non working game - AOC Rise of the Godslayer memory errors, crashing on changing zone for everybody on release.  As for TSW what is the main complaint about the game?  Crap combat animations, Funcom released an unfinished game by all accounts. I seem to recall chat not working or group finding.   Not to mention the debacle trying to sell it as a sub based model.  Their launch was a screw up right from the start and the Ex CEO seeing the poor pre-order numbers tried to quickly sell off his shares, because he knew things were going down the pan.   Funcom then tried to blame Metacritic for poor sales because of their score. So not only are you dealing with a sub-standard developer you are dealing with a business with no morals. 

 

As for Defiance, mileage obviously varies depending on platform.  Xbox (UK) server up and running, voice chat works, text chat works, no hacks that I have noticed.  If things like hacking and exploits bother you then consider a different platform - one of the reasons I moved to console.  It's not so easy to use things like bots. Again Defiance released on three platforms, TSW was on one and still a screw up.  No comparison really at all, either with games or the developers.

 

 

 LMAO!  So now you are saying we need to switch platform? lol.

XBOX release of DEFIANCE has been a total dissaster! The first week the XBOX servers have been more down than up, due to performance and stability issues galore.

Not to mention that XBOX players have been  complaining left and right about the garbage Voice chat! Especially since on console you depend on it, rather than text chat hardly anybody uses on console.

The XBOX section of the Defiance forums were on fire. So come on now.

I seriously think you are here just trolling and not playing the game at all.

You don't know anything about the game's mechanics.... you pretty much don't know anything that has been going on the past three weeks! You just dismiss everything and try derail the thread with stupid TSW stuff that has nothing to do with DEFIANCE.

And yes, we know you hate Funcom and yes we know you hate TSW.  That you did not like the game, doesn't mean the game didn't function nor was it broken at launch.

But whatever.

  Margulis

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Joined: 12/14/08
Posts: 1643

4/21/13 5:21:20 PM#123
Personally I just think it's super light on content and extremely mediocre in so many ways.  Also the launch has been pretty rough with a lot of issues, more so than the last few mmo launches I've seen.  Just last night 3 weeks after launch there was a 7 hour downtime during prime time Saturday and a rollback, plus connection issues I've had way more than any other mmo I've played.  All in all, it can be fun but it is just soooooooooo average.
  Yamota

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Joined: 10/05/03
Posts: 6486

"Only cunts name their swords"

4/21/13 5:25:13 PM#124
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Yamota
Maybe the "hate" is because people are tired to see ThemePark after ThemePark released? They say this game is original but it seems to be just another ThemePark to me and frankly I cant bother to "hate" it; just stopped caring about these Mickey Mouse MMOs.

while i do enjoy those Micky Mouse MMOs as you call them I sort of do agree.. very few try to step outside the norm and at the end of the day they are all a bit to similar

Well I enjoyed them too but there are only that many times you can eat a hamburger and not get sick of it. Time for the devs to start creating some truly groundbreaking MMOs and not just use the same old same old with some twist.

I am sick of playing MMOs for a month or two and then get bored because I am doing the same thing over and over. Isn't that what single player games are for?

  Lifebleeder

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Joined: 3/27/04
Posts: 11

4/21/13 5:31:11 PM#125

I don't hate the game, and I haven't really seen a ton of rage about it, just general criticism.  I played the last few betas, and walked away thouroughly unimpressed each time.  When I'm playing an MMO, I don't expect it to feel like a bad console port, and it did.

 

DUDE!  A beta isn't representitive of the final product!  The final beta wasn't far removed from the actual launch, on top of that, most of what I've been reading/watching concerning the game only confirms my feelings from the beta.

 

The chat system was awful.   Many here said it was a co-operative game, a co-op game with a crappy chat interface doesn't mesh very well.

Me and a few of my friends found the whole grouping system to just be a pain.

Either of those things can be a deal breaker for me when it comes to an MMO.  Combined, no thanks. 

 

Add onto that:

DLC - Paid DLC for an MMO?  Depending on how Trion handles it, eww.  Before someone gets uppity and goes "OMIGOD IT'S JUST LIKE EXPANSION PACKS!"  No, it's not.  I've never seen an MMO release 5 expansion packs in a year, which is what Trion plans on doing this year, and it's already April.

Bugs - Holy shit.  Now it's launch so I have to cut them some slack, but still.  It's had a very rough launch which suprised me.  Cause Rift's launch was about as well handled as any I've ever seen.  Either way I'm not going to pay $60 USD to watch my guy fall threw the world for 4 hours, or have stuff in my inventory suddenly disappear.

Lore - I love lore, I had no idea what I was doing.  I didn't know what half of the things they were talking about were.  Just an overall poor introduction.  I don't know if this is intentional because of the show at the detriment to the game.  If the two sides just don't communicate very well, or if Trion is being lazy.  In any case, poorly done.

AI - In other genres this isn't really such a huge deal.  Melee mobs run at you and use a couple of abilities, while you use your abilities.  In an shooter it's absolutely crucial, and this game has braindead mobs.

MMO - It's been said before, and I'm going to parrot that.  It's an MMO that doesn't feel like an MMO at all.

 

On the plus side, the mix and match weapons are fun.  The show/game tie in is a neat idea if done properly.  I like the "world" they've created even though I have no idea what's going on in it, or any of the history.

In all most of these problems can be fixed with time, but for $60 on top of paid DLC, most people are going to pass for the forseeable future (me included).

"The Object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

-George S. Patton

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
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4/21/13 5:31:13 PM#126
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Yamota
Maybe the "hate" is because people are tired to see ThemePark after ThemePark released? They say this game is original but it seems to be just another ThemePark to me and frankly I cant bother to "hate" it; just stopped caring about these Mickey Mouse MMOs.

while i do enjoy those Micky Mouse MMOs as you call them I sort of do agree.. very few try to step outside the norm and at the end of the day they are all a bit to similar

Well I enjoyed them too but there are only that many times you can eat a hamburger and not get sick of it. Time for the devs to start creating some truly groundbreaking MMOs and not just use the same old same old with some twist.

I am sick of playing MMOs for a month or two and then get bored because I am doing the same thing over and over. Isn't that what single player games are for?

i actually really only play single player games if it has a good story so i generally stick to RPGs mostly but enjoyed bioshock infinite and the new tomb raider a good bit.. but yea I fall into the same old same old wall a lot faster these days then i did years ago.. 

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  Blindchance

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Joined: 2/21/09
Posts: 1079

4/21/13 5:37:12 PM#127
I think you are overdramatising a bit. Defience was a let down that's for sure. It's a mix between a MMORPG and a multiplayer third person shooter, but feature wise it's extremely shallow. Why do I think so ? No point to repeat what others people pointed out mutliple times. Angry Joe hit the nail on this one. So did Total Biscuit.
  fallenlords

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Joined: 5/16/10
Posts: 700

4/22/13 3:50:18 AM#128
Originally posted by JeroKane

 LMAO!  So now you are saying we need to switch platform? lol.

XBOX release of DEFIANCE has been a total dissaster! The first week the XBOX servers have been more down than up, due to performance and stability issues galore.

Not to mention that XBOX players have been  complaining left and right about the garbage Voice chat! Especially since on console you depend on it, rather than text chat hardly anybody uses on console.

The XBOX section of the Defiance forums were on fire. So come on now.

I seriously think you are here just trolling and not playing the game at all.

You don't know anything about the game's mechanics.... you pretty much don't know anything that has been going on the past three weeks! You just dismiss everything and try derail the thread with stupid TSW stuff that has nothing to do with DEFIANCE.

And yes, we know you hate Funcom and yes we know you hate TSW.  That you did not like the game, doesn't mean the game didn't function nor was it broken at launch.

But whatever.

Change platform if you want to have less people cheating, aimbots and memory hacks are predominately an issue with PC gaming.  You have a more level playing field on console.

 

Xbox issues have mainly been down to the US servers not the EU.  EU has had quite a smooth ride throughout, with good server uptime and minimal issues.   In fact I think most of the issues are impacting on the US servers. 

 

As for playing the game I have been playing every day since launch, but I don't worry about crap that is not important.   Weapons levels, vehicle levels, even EGO to an extent.  It's all happening in the background. I stick with one loadout,  about the only thing I do now and again is switch weapons.  I am not even moding weapons at the moment, just salvage the odd one here and there when I get a full inventory. 

 

Overall I am just surprised people that can put up with the rubbish that is TSW, want to knock Defiance. I would of thought by now you would be a lot less sensitive to minor issues and problems.  Especially as Trion are having to deal with issues due to volume of users, issues that Funcom never in a million years would even have to concern themselves about.  Not to mention Funcom could never get their game engine to run on Xbox, so overall I think Trion aren't doing too badly.  Breaking new ground is always going to have teething problems.

  JeroKane

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4/22/13 4:00:02 AM#129
Originally posted by fallenlords
Originally posted by JeroKane

 

Overall I am just surprised people that can put up with the rubbish that is TSW, want to knock Defiance. I would of thought by now you would be a lot less sensitive to minor issues and problems.  Especially as Trion are having to deal with issues due to volume of users, issues that Funcom never in a million years would even have to concern themselves about.  Not to mention Funcom could never get their game engine to run on Xbox, so overall I think Trion aren't doing too badly.  Breaking new ground is always going to have teething problems.

 So you don't like the animations in TSW. That doesn't mean it's broken! The animations do work and the combat does work!

So you do not like to use your brain doing the missions in TSW. That is fine. Doesn't mean the game is crap nor that it doesn't have content. It has in fact a jitload more content then Defiance!  In fact, the current entire map of Defiance fits in Kingsmouth + Savage Coast. That leaves all the rest (including 3 city hubs) TSW has and Defiance doesn't.

And for your information. Funcom actually got their engine to run on XBOX. That was never the problem. The problem was that the Age of Conan client size was too large for the XBOX360 platform. They had to sacrifice too much to get the client small enough for the console. THAT was the problem! Not the engine itself.

And TRION isn't breaking new ground with multi-platform!  All major game engines, like Unreal Engine, CryTek, etc support all platforms and have been doing so for years!

With the budget TRION had, they should have licensed one of those engines instead. They would have been far better off.

  fallenlords

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4/22/13 4:25:35 AM#130
Originally posted by JeroKane

 So you don't like the animations in TSW. That doesn't mean it's broken! The animations do work and the combat does work!

So you do not like to use your brain doing the missions in TSW. That is fine. Doesn't mean the game is crap nor that it doesn't have content. It has in fact a jitload more content then Defiance!  In fact, the current entire map of Defiance fits in Kingsmouth + Savage Coast. That leaves all the rest (including 3 city hubs) TSW has and Defiance doesn't.

And for your information. Funcom actually got their engine to run on XBOX. That was never the problem. The problem was that the Age of Conan client size was too large for the XBOX360 platform. They had to sacrifice too much to get the client small enough for the console. THAT was the problem! Not the engine itself.

And TRION isn't breaking new ground with multi-platform!  All major game engines, like Unreal Engine, CryTek, etc support all platforms and have been doing so for years!

With the budget TRION had, they should have licensed one of those engines instead. They would have been far better off.

TSW combat is button spam and run around in circles, if you call that combat.  I call that combat like five years ago. As mentioned before you might as well hold a hotdog as a shotgun the way weapons behave, or should I say don't behave.  Combat animations are broken, weapons disappear, they have no feel to them at all. 

 

I don't like TSW because it's dull.  Don't mind making my head hurt now and again if it's fun.  But the game is so boring.  Nothing happen in the first few hours of playing the game.  Find some camera's, go here, speak to some random Cowboy who looks totally out of place.  Run past all the Zombies if you like because their AI is so limited. Yeah it's a wonderful experience ...

 

Easy to say Funcom got the engine working when they have released nothing on the 360.  They barely have it working on PC and performance is not a word that they understand.   They said they would release AOC and TSW to Xbox, they didn't. Don't try and kid me that they would have to compromise quality, err what quality, fact is their engine is pants it leaks memory and is not performance tuned at all.  They leave it up to the user to compensate for their shortcomings, even though they publish min specs for things.  They as a company won't supply any benchmarks for comparison and they have issues with certain graphics card types.  It's a total mess and has been for a long time.

 

Trion is breaking new ground as they have simultaneously released an MMO on the the three major gaming platforms.  Final Fantasy did something similar but there Xbox release was years after their initial PC release.  On top of which they have a TV show tie-in.  That is breaking new ground, because it hasn't been done before.

  JeroKane

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4/22/13 5:23:35 AM#131

You have a deep pasionate hate for funcom. We get it! You just trolling in the wrong forum. Just saying.

There is no reasoning with you. So I am done.

The official Defiance forums currently speak for itself in "how well" the game is currently doing.

But sure.... keep sticking your head in the sand and continue on with your "LA LA LA LA... nothing is wrong, everything is fine.".

Have a nice day.

  fallenlords

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4/22/13 6:03:04 AM#132
Originally posted by JeroKane

You have a deep pasionate hate for funcom. We get it! You just trolling in the wrong forum. Just saying.

There is no reasoning with you. So I am done.

The official Defiance forums currently speak for itself in "how well" the game is currently doing.

But sure.... keep sticking your head in the sand and continue on with your "LA LA LA LA... nothing is wrong, everything is fine.".

Have a nice day.

Again didn't say nothing is wrong with Defiance, already stated it has issues.  Just can't understand how former/current TSW players, who should be so use to all kinds of issues, are in the Defiance forum moaning.  I thought you would have thicker skins than that by now.   I mean after my dalliance with Funcom I am immune to all but the most critical of errors.   Most games seem like fun after TSW, I even highly rated Alien Colonial Marines which I don't even understand myself.  My level of tolerance is so refined now that as long as a developer is trying I give them top marks. If they are doing something a bit new I even cut them some slack. 

 

As far as the official forums go, it seems a mixed bag and sort of what you would expect.  People with problems tend to be more vocal than those having no issues. Seems like there are more problems on certain platforms than others. But I am not getting an overwhelming sense of doom.  Again community updates, Trion have acknowledged the issues.  They acknowledged the patch didn't go as intended, they admitted to be too far reaching in their scope.   The complexities of running on three platforms must throw up unique problems.

 

I am not ignoring that Defiance has issues/ I am just pointing out that the issues being mentioned on here tend for the most part to have already been acknowledged.  They are not in my opinion what I consider to be game breaking, considering the setup of the game. Considering certain people find other products to be acceptable, which I view as totally sub-standard, it makes me question motives.

  Whitebeards

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4/22/13 6:25:38 AM#133
Originally posted by fallenlords
 

But if I was deliberately picking fault with Defiance, then yes I would make out inventory items missing is a big whoop and skills being reset.   I certainly wouldn't give them credit for their scope or cut them any slack whatsoever with a three platform release, if I was deliberately picking fault.

One doesn't need to deliberately pick up faults since these are the biggest issues right now and more common than you may think. I am really happy for you that you didn' t lose anything. But i don't know why you are harassing those who have issues on basis of what games they play in the past? the topic is about Defiance and yes getting your skills, progression, puruits being reset three time in 2 weeks is a very big WHOOP!!

I have lost 3 rare weapons (the ones that i really needed) in total which i got after opening 45 T3 boxes. I send tickets but i was told replacement is not possible. So i just sucked it up and decided to just stop playing. It is not fun to lose 300 ego skills and your weapon skills being reset back to 1 which took me 3 weeks to progress. I am not goign to spend another 3 weeks to level up everything back again. Much better games on horizon.

You can try to down play this as much as you desire though but all you are doing is harssing people for the troubles they are having on basis of what other games they played or didn't play in past. Which is irrelevant to current issues with Defiance.

  fallenlords

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Posts: 700

4/22/13 7:24:38 AM#134
Originally posted by Whitebeards

One doesn't need to deliberately pick up faults since these are the biggest issues right now and more common than you may think. I am really happy for you that you didn' t lose anything. But i don't know why you are harassing those who have issues on basis of what games they play in the past? the topic is about Defiance and yes getting your skills, progression, puruits being reset three time in 2 weeks is a very big WHOOP!!

I have lost 3 rare weapons (the ones that i really needed) in total which i got after opening 45 T3 boxes. I send tickets but i was told replacement is not possible. So i just sucked it up and decided to just stop playing. It is not fun to lose 300 ego skills and your weapon skills being reset back to 1 which took me 3 weeks to progress. I am not goign to spend another 3 weeks to level up everything back again. Much better games on horizon.

You can try to down play this as much as you desire though but all you are doing is harssing people for the troubles they are having on basis of what other games they played or didn't play in past. Which is irrelevant to current issues with Defiance.

Again not what I consider to be major issues.   If any of it had a massive impact I would say yeah, but it doesn't from what I can see.  

 

Leveling things up is a fractional boosts at best, fair enough the cumulative end result might have an impact. But on things like rollers you are looking at 0.5 say boost in boost per level.   I understood the whole design of the game was so that levels are so marginal on purpose to allow people to play together.    None of the leveling is something you set out to do, it's all a background process.  I didn't decide to level LMGs, Assault Rifles and Sniper Rifles those were just the weapons I picked to use.  They leveled through virtue of being used, it was not specific and there was no intent on my part to level them. I didn't gun down a load of people with Sniper Rifles just to level the weapon class.

 

Losing items is always annoying, but again the structure of the game is so that there is always a better weapon on the horizon. Game being a few weeks old, I am surprised anybody has settled on a final loadout as yet.  Come the first DLC probably most weapons, even rare, will be obsolete. 

 

Overall I am not playing the problems down because I personally don't see them as major issues.    The expectations for this game were never high, it wasn't part of an existing franchise, the scope of what they are trying to achieve is a little above and beyond what others have done recently.  It's a shooter and an MMO, it's not going to have depth.   Crying about some missing inventory items and skills being reset, really isn't a big whoop in my eyes. 

 

I think games people have played in the past are relevant. Past games come into play, when you see a user heaping praise on a third rate below average game made by a developer with no moral compass.  Then they pop up here giving a game, which is in competition, a bit of grief.  I wonder on the motives as mentioned before.  It's easy to make mountains out of molehills. 

 

 
  Whitebeards

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4/22/13 7:50:09 AM#135
Originally posted by fallenlords
Originally posted by Whitebeards

One doesn't need to deliberately pick up faults since these are the biggest issues right now and more common than you may think. I am really happy for you that you didn' t lose anything. But i don't know why you are harassing those who have issues on basis of what games they play in the past? the topic is about Defiance and yes getting your skills, progression, puruits being reset three time in 2 weeks is a very big WHOOP!!

I have lost 3 rare weapons (the ones that i really needed) in total which i got after opening 45 T3 boxes. I send tickets but i was told replacement is not possible. So i just sucked it up and decided to just stop playing. It is not fun to lose 300 ego skills and your weapon skills being reset back to 1 which took me 3 weeks to progress. I am not goign to spend another 3 weeks to level up everything back again. Much better games on horizon.

You can try to down play this as much as you desire though but all you are doing is harssing people for the troubles they are having on basis of what other games they played or didn't play in past. Which is irrelevant to current issues with Defiance.

Again not what I consider to be major issues.   If any of it had a massive impact I would say yeah, but it doesn't from what I can see.  

 

 

 I am not here to argue with you..because it is quite clear you don't even know how much effect skill progression in weapons make. So anything said to you is pointless. And losing 300 ego rating is no joke either. I am just going to ignore and not even bother reading rest of your post.

 

  BrownAle

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4/22/13 9:10:22 AM#136
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by fallenlords
Originally posted by Whitebeards

One doesn't need to deliberately pick up faults since these are the biggest issues right now and more common than you may think. I am really happy for you that you didn' t lose anything. But i don't know why you are harassing those who have issues on basis of what games they play in the past? the topic is about Defiance and yes getting your skills, progression, puruits being reset three time in 2 weeks is a very big WHOOP!!

I have lost 3 rare weapons (the ones that i really needed) in total which i got after opening 45 T3 boxes. I send tickets but i was told replacement is not possible. So i just sucked it up and decided to just stop playing. It is not fun to lose 300 ego skills and your weapon skills being reset back to 1 which took me 3 weeks to progress. I am not goign to spend another 3 weeks to level up everything back again. Much better games on horizon.

You can try to down play this as much as you desire though but all you are doing is harssing people for the troubles they are having on basis of what other games they played or didn't play in past. Which is irrelevant to current issues with Defiance.

Again not what I consider to be major issues.   If any of it had a massive impact I would say yeah, but it doesn't from what I can see.  

 

 

 I am not here to argue with you..because it is quite clear you don't even know how much effect skill progression in weapons make. So anything said to you is pointless. And losing 300 ego rating is no joke either. I am just going to ignore and not even bother reading rest of your post.

 

Once again im one of the super lucky "few" (as this forum would make it seem) who havent had this issue...ever

I dont even think anything close to a majority of people had this issue.

 

They are major issues for people looking for game breaking issues.  Im fairly sure the progression lost on that one server crash will be replaced anyway...so really its more of an inconvienience...not that progression is all that important.

I mean you have already cleared the content (im sure) with much lower skill levels than you have now...so its not like losing an hours worth of progression is going to stop you in game and be, as you put it, game breaking.

 

The fact that theres one thread only 3 pages long on the main forums about this issue leads me to belive the numbers of people who had this problem are double diget.

  TeknoBug

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4/22/13 9:35:08 AM#137

Why I'm put off by this game, is the Season Pass- every damn game these days has the season pass thing now even MMO's...


  fallenlords

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4/22/13 9:39:15 AM#138
Originally posted by Whitebeards

 I am not here to argue with you..because it is quite clear you don't even know how much effect skill progression in weapons make. So anything said to you is pointless. And losing 300 ego rating is no joke either. I am just going to ignore and not even bother reading rest of your post.

 

Well explain it to me then if it's such a big deal.

Every time I look at weapon/vehicle skills I see next level 0.5%.boost, 0.5% crit multiplier etc.  Fractional adjustments, same with mods.  Just a quick check in my inventory on a comparable weapon, a 500 Frontier Saw (LMG) has the exact same stats as a 773 Saw (LMG), 404 DMG, 8.0 Fire Rate, 85 Mag, 4.3 Reload, 1.6x crit multiplier, 0.76 bloom.  All of the weapon skills are percentage based +/- .  Can't say I notice a big difference in weapon performance when the weapon skills are stepping up in such small increments.  Are you saying at level 20 for example a weapon class has substantial boosts?  What are we talking, like +50% reload, +80% crit multiplier,-70% recoil etc?

 

EGO again is a commodity that levels as you play and you need it for what exactly?  Unlocking perks, perhaps the ability to get/equip certain equipment.  Most of the time you have more perks unlocked than you can equip, unless you are using multiple loadouts.  Are you saying I need to keep an eye on EGO for some reason?  Because to me it's only useful for unlocking some minor perks, that again hardly impact on things overall.
  User Deleted
4/22/13 9:46:23 AM#139
Originally posted by BrownAle
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by fallenlords
Originally posted by Whitebeards

One doesn't need to deliberately pick up faults since these are the biggest issues right now and more common than you may think. I am really happy for you that you didn' t lose anything. But i don't know why you are harassing those who have issues on basis of what games they play in the past? the topic is about Defiance and yes getting your skills, progression, puruits being reset three time in 2 weeks is a very big WHOOP!!

I have lost 3 rare weapons (the ones that i really needed) in total which i got after opening 45 T3 boxes. I send tickets but i was told replacement is not possible. So i just sucked it up and decided to just stop playing. It is not fun to lose 300 ego skills and your weapon skills being reset back to 1 which took me 3 weeks to progress. I am not goign to spend another 3 weeks to level up everything back again. Much better games on horizon.

You can try to down play this as much as you desire though but all you are doing is harssing people for the troubles they are having on basis of what other games they played or didn't play in past. Which is irrelevant to current issues with Defiance.

Again not what I consider to be major issues.   If any of it had a massive impact I would say yeah, but it doesn't from what I can see.  

 

 

 I am not here to argue with you..because it is quite clear you don't even know how much effect skill progression in weapons make. So anything said to you is pointless. And losing 300 ego rating is no joke either. I am just going to ignore and not even bother reading rest of your post.

 

Once again im one of the super lucky "few" (as this forum would make it seem) who havent had this issue...ever

I dont even think anything close to a majority of people had this issue.

 

They are major issues for people looking for game breaking issues.  Im fairly sure the progression lost on that one server crash will be replaced anyway...so really its more of an inconvienience...not that progression is all that important.

I mean you have already cleared the content (im sure) with much lower skill levels than you have now...so its not like losing an hours worth of progression is going to stop you in game and be, as you put it, game breaking.

 

The fact that theres one thread only 3 pages long on the main forums about this issue leads me to belive the numbers of people who had this problem are double diget.

Ya I have been playing since beta and I have not had no issues with Defience. Maybe it is just super unlucky "few" that are the ones having problems??

  User Deleted
4/22/13 9:49:10 AM#140
Originally posted by TeknoBug

Why I'm put off by this game, is the Season Pass- every damn game these days has the season pass thing now even MMO's...

You dont need the season pass. I still dont have it. You get the whole game if you choose not to buy the season pass. It is just for additonal race etc. Game price is half price now and you get a great game imo.

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