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  TribeofOne

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Joined: 7/10/05
Posts: 978

4/18/13 2:37:20 PM#61
Originally posted by MentalAnarchy

Word of warning, be careful on this topic.  Bans happen, sometimes due to the silliest things..

QFT - anything and EVERYTHING is being reported as "excessively negative" by those who use it to try to censor away posts,topics,ideas they dont like.

on the topic, If you look at the thread starters and bumpers you'll see the same names over and over.. there really isnt that large of a CU following as some would like it to appear.

..and I agree with a previous poster a forum activity "blacklist" would be great. Ive already had to turn sigs off because of some oversized CU sig offenders

  Rocketeer

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Posts: 1310

4/18/13 2:39:58 PM#62

Im a backer of CU and i think all the money begging(and thats what it is, sorry) should atleast be confined to a single thread.

Besides that, you see alot of CU posts on the livetracker because its one of the most active forums. So its actually doing nothing more or less than representing the majorities interests to the best of its abilities. If you want to see other forums/threads more on the livetracker, you have to post more in them.

Yet what you DO is post in the CU forums aswell complaining about the amount of posts/threads, thus increasing traffic even more and make it show up more on the livetracker. With all due respect, thats the definition of stupidity as far as i am aware off.

Also most posts about about CU outside of the CU subforums seem to be complains like this one, so your actually not only increasing traffic in CU subforums, your even spreading the problem around to other previously non contaminated forums. Either this is some genius yet unethical way to spread awareness of CU even more by some misguided fans in disguise or ... sigh.

  Doogiehowser

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4/18/13 2:41:35 PM#63
I am still waiting for some official response to this topic because OP makes sense.

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  Rocketeer

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4/18/13 2:54:00 PM#64
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
I am still waiting for some official response to this topic because OP makes sense.

No he does not, he doesn't understand the concept of an advertisement.

Advertisements by nature are distinct from opinions by the fact that they are paid for.

 

If i say "cola tastes great" thats my opinion.

If i say "cola tastes great" and get 5$ from the coca cola company for that its an advertisement.

 

The rule the op is talking about is meant in the context that commercial activity is supposed to happen through official channels, since mmorpg.com wants to charge money for that, its not a free blackboard you can pin your marketing crap on.

 

Kickstarter projects obviously get a "out-of-jail-free-card" because they are community projects and because the people making this site happen to love MMOs and probably want to see more of them made. Usually its only companies that get hit with a stick for begging, players asking other players to support game xy is something else. It lacks the financial betterment, they don't ask for money so that they themselves get more money, they ask for someone else so that something they love can be created.

 

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/18/13 3:10:48 PM#65
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by RefMinor

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/realtime/

for those who seem to struggle with the idea

Glad to see someone else pays attention around here..

Plus this list is, at least in part, updated on the front page, where I usually refresh when I'm bored.

Either way regardless of that, forum sections exist for a reason, if a person is sick of a certain forums activity, they should avoid that forum, if they want to see more discussion on other games, visit the forum for those games. Moaning about which has the most activity or content you don't want to see is akin to moaning about self inflicted wounds.

True, but people still do it.  I tend to avoid CU threads unless they're in the general forum or the question/statement is aimed at me and people like me.  This one was a good opportunity to give my opinion without getting yelled at by CU fans for absolutely no reason.

  Instigator-Jones

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Joined: 2/07/13
Posts: 500

4/18/13 3:16:48 PM#66
I'm starting to find the humor in this; in the beginning all the fan rage FOR the game ramped up the posts. NOW the fan rage AGAINST the game is boiling. The eb and flow of posts at the critical time when the CU KS needs it is pretty funny, and quite predictable. It would be hilarious if the KS fails and is attributed to the excessive posts promoting CU to begin with.
  DamonVile

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Posts: 4909

4/18/13 3:22:19 PM#67
Originally posted by TribeofOne

 

on the topic, If you look at the thread starters and bumpers you'll see the same names over and over.. there really isnt that large of a CU following as some would like it to appear.

 

I think even they've noticed this. More and more you see people saying " aren't you the guy that posted just the other day...... "

  Gyrus

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Joined: 11/20/07
Posts: 2323

4/19/13 7:15:05 AM#68
Originally posted by TribeofOne
Originally posted by MentalAnarchy

Word of warning, be careful on this topic.  Bans happen, sometimes due to the silliest things..

QFT - anything and EVERYTHING is being reported as "excessively negative" by those who use it to try to censor away posts,topics,ideas they dont like.

I call it the "fanboi flame (&lock)" - MMORPG.com are aware.  Or at least they should be if they read the forums!?

8-D

on the topic, If you look at the thread starters and bumpers you'll see the same names over and over.. there really isnt that large of a CU following as some would like it to appear.

...

My Blue text

I wonder how many of these people are employees of cf-publishing myself?

http://www.cf-publishing.com/international/

(scroll down and check the clients - CSE announced this in their dev blogs)

On one hand - I sorta support 'viral marketing' - but only if it's genuine.  What I mean is genuinely excited people, unpaid, supporting and talking about something they believe in / enjoy.  There are a few games I would never have seen if it weren't for this.  I like talking to gamers about games.

But paid 'shills' annoy me.  Because they probably don't even play half the games they promote.

Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  mklinic

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Joined: 7/29/05
Posts: 1437

4/19/13 9:10:18 AM#69
Originally posted by Gyrus

But paid 'shills' annoy me.  Because they probably don't even play half the games they promote.

For what it's worth, there was a topic (now locked) on the whole "shill" thing: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/382395

MarkJacobs posted his position on shills as well as a request for both sides pro-CU/con-CU to tone it down (port #56) so it seems he at least agrees with some of the sentiment of this thread. Whether someone believes him or not is their call of course, but thought it relevant to your post.

-mklinic

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  Boldyn

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Joined: 12/29/04
Posts: 263

4/19/13 9:13:38 AM#70

I was issued a warning when I answered one of the "omg please donate" threads, stating that there is no way anyone on this site does not know that there is a KS project called CU and if people want to, they will pledge. I also stated that if all those posts accomplished just one thing, it would be to make me NOT want to pledge becuase of all the spam.

 

Apperently it got flagged for flaming :)

  Tuktz

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Joined: 3/01/13
Posts: 310

4/19/13 9:18:02 AM#71

1) There is a big difference between advertising, and word of mouth (referrals). I know, because I work in financial advisement industry, and this concept is HIGHLY regulated.

2) If all the posts about camelot unchained are in the CU forum, how is that spamming mmorpg? If anything, I've seen people from all over the boards FLOCK to the CU forums to troll/bash it whenever a thread is posted.

 

Simple solution, stop reading/posting/browsing the camelot unchained subsection of the forums if it bothers you so much.

 

The strange this is, I don't mind other people being excited about other games, so why does that bother so many here on mmorpg with CU? I don't care if I see posts from others about whatever game X Y Z they are excited about. Nor do I go to the forums specifically set up for them to talk about it, and trash talk all their posts about said game.


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  meddyck

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4/19/13 9:22:14 AM#72
Here's a novel idea. If there is a thread on the CU forum that you think violates the TOS, then report it and let the mods do their job. Posts like this just stir up flame wars.

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  Amana

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4/19/13 9:26:10 AM#73
CU discussion and Kickstarter threads should be in the CU forum, so if you see any outside there, you can report them. But merely discussing a game in threads where there is a related point of discussion or theme isn't against the rules and/or advertising. If it becomes excessive or hijacks a thread, that is, however.

To give feedback on moderation, contact community@mmorpg.com

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