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  Telondariel

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4/17/13 11:53:38 AM#61
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Siphaed's post is very complete, so I will only add this:

Since I play GW2, all those "quest hub with fixed quests" based MMORPG, including WoW, are boring to me. I couldn't be arsed to level more than one character through Pandaria, just thinking I had to level my alt doing EXACTLY the same quests in the same areas made be abandon before I even started.

And I'm no WoW hater, 2 accounts for 8 years, and I had a blast in that game up to "hardcore" raiding. But it's over now, I couldn't go back to that kind of theme park MMO after playing GW2.

I don't see any difference in what you are describing, and Hearts.  They are a fixed point (you can see them on a map) with a heart rather than a question mark.  And yes, they are exactly the same quests as you level your alts through the same areas.

 

I play the game and I like it, so I'm not hating here.  However, if you think there is a difference between what you described and GW2's Hearts then you have blinders on.

 

Oh, and you couldn't get any more themepark than GW2.

  shadyjames

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4/17/13 12:30:51 PM#62
I think what people are getting into arguments about is the hearts (which are quests) but are for renown (karma) yes they give xp money and rewards, but you don't need to do them to level your character, some other people do the DE's around an area and call them quests, and in that way they can be different with different characters, as not all DE's pop just by walking by. So yes, you can level alts without doing the same "Quests" over and over. If done in that way. It's all a matter of prefence. My sister is currently leveling an alt by crafting and gathering mats for crafting. Many ways to get to 80. 
  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/17/13 12:58:07 PM#63
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Siphaed's post is very complete, so I will only add this:

Since I play GW2, all those "quest hub with fixed quests" based MMORPG, including WoW, are boring to me. I couldn't be arsed to level more than one character through Pandaria, just thinking I had to level my alt doing EXACTLY the same quests in the same areas made be abandon before I even started.

And I'm no WoW hater, 2 accounts for 8 years, and I had a blast in that game up to "hardcore" raiding. But it's over now, I couldn't go back to that kind of theme park MMO after playing GW2.

I don't see any difference in what you are describing, and Hearts.  They are a fixed point (you can see them on a map) with a heart rather than a question mark.  And yes, they are exactly the same quests as you level your alts through the same areas.

 

I play the game and I like it, so I'm not hating here.  However, if you think there is a difference between what you described and GW2's Hearts then you have blinders on.

 

Oh, and you couldn't get any more themepark than GW2.

I played WoW.  I play GW2.  Hearts are not the same as WoW quests, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

1.) For starters, you never have to run back to anyone.  The fact that the heart NPC is always in the same place really doesn't matter, mostly for reason 2.

2.) You can almost always complete Hearts in numerous ways, unlike WoW's quests that always have one objective (at least at the time I last played).  So that means they are NOT exactly the same quests for your alts.  In fact, I've done a different objective on the same heart for 3 different alts.  I can CHOOSE what way to fill that bar, negating your point completely.

He said he's bored because of the type of questing, not that it has questing, and said he doesn't want to go back to "that type" of MMORPG.  Try reading a little harder.  No one ever said GW2 wasn't a themepark, but I feel the exact same way... I couldn't go back to WoW's questing (the ONLY type of questing it has by the way) after GW2.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/17/13 1:10:11 PM#64
I'm glad some people understood what I was writing.

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  Volkon

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4/17/13 2:45:38 PM#65
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Siphaed's post is very complete, so I will only add this:

Since I play GW2, all those "quest hub with fixed quests" based MMORPG, including WoW, are boring to me. I couldn't be arsed to level more than one character through Pandaria, just thinking I had to level my alt doing EXACTLY the same quests in the same areas made be abandon before I even started.

And I'm no WoW hater, 2 accounts for 8 years, and I had a blast in that game up to "hardcore" raiding. But it's over now, I couldn't go back to that kind of theme park MMO after playing GW2.

I don't see any difference in what you are describing, and Hearts.  They are a fixed point (you can see them on a map) with a heart rather than a question mark.  And yes, they are exactly the same quests as you level your alts through the same areas.

 

I play the game and I like it, so I'm not hating here.  However, if you think there is a difference between what you described and GW2's Hearts then you have blinders on.

 

Oh, and you couldn't get any more themepark than GW2.

I played WoW.  I play GW2.  Hearts are not the same as WoW quests, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

1.) For starters, you never have to run back to anyone.  The fact that the heart NPC is always in the same place really doesn't matter, mostly for reason 2.

2.) You can almost always complete Hearts in numerous ways, unlike WoW's quests that always have one objective (at least at the time I last played).  So that means they are NOT exactly the same quests for your alts.  In fact, I've done a different objective on the same heart for 3 different alts.  I can CHOOSE what way to fill that bar, negating your point completely.

He said he's bored because of the type of questing, not that it has questing, and said he doesn't want to go back to "that type" of MMORPG.  Try reading a little harder.  No one ever said GW2 wasn't a themepark, but I feel the exact same way... I couldn't go back to WoW's questing (the ONLY type of questing it has by the way) after GW2.

Just to add on to this, if I may... how many times have you accidentally completed hearts while completing events that broke out in the area? That happens a lot to me.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/17/13 2:48:58 PM#66
Originally posted by Volkon

Just to add on to this, if I may... how many times have you accidentally completed hearts while completing events that broke out in the area? That happens a lot to me.

Good point, that's happened to me a ton.  And even if I didn't complete the heart, part of it was filled before I even KNEW I was doing a "quest".  People can say there's no difference between WoW quests and GW2 quests, but people can also be wrong.  I don't know how much different knowing you're doing 1 objective and not knowing you're doing 1 of 3 or more objectives can be.

  flizzer

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4/17/13 2:58:36 PM#67
I would agree with this.  For me GW2 is similar to that ad for Apple in the 80s with that person throwing the hammer.  I don't want to go back to the tradiitional hub based MMO anymore.   I have a lifetime sub to LOTRO and still love the LOTRO story, but I find it so hard to log in and play in that type of world now.   If you are on the fence just try the game this weekend.
  alkarionlog

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4/17/13 3:03:20 PM#68
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I saw this Angry Joe review - he gave GW2 10/10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y

 

GW2 looks amazing.

 

But how does it compare to WoW?

 

I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people who have played GW2 for quite a while.

I really don't know why you want to compare Gw2 to a sub par game like wow.

 

Its far better, next time ask compare with a better game like aion or tera or Rift

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  mari3k

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4/17/13 3:10:23 PM#69

Angry Joe is great, and I agree almost in every review with him. But as a mmorpg veteran, for me its not a 10/10 score. 

Fist I disliked GW2 much, but it has also to do with my low spec PC. When I bought a new one, I enjoy GW2 , its fun and an amazing feeling beeing in a fight with 100 people PvP on max spec with very high fps.

In the end I would give it a 8/10. 

Wow is without a doubt 10/10, but it also ha its years and Im not willing to pay the subs, couse Im not a hardcore player anymore.

However, GW2 can still grow. The basics are good, just give us a little more progression (PvP Ranks pls).

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  Volkon

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4/17/13 3:33:22 PM#70
Originally posted by mari3k

Angry Joe is great, and I agree almost in every review with him. But as a mmorpg veteran, for me its not a 10/10 score. 

Fist I disliked GW2 much, but it has also to do with my low spec PC. When I bought a new one, I enjoy GW2 , its fun and an amazing feeling beeing in a fight with 100 people PvP on max spec with very high fps.

In the end I would give it a 8/10. 

Wow is without a doubt 10/10, but it also ha its years and Im not willing to pay the subs, couse Im not a hardcore player anymore.

However, GW2 can still grow. The basics are good, just give us a little more progression (PvP Ranks pls).

 

Hmm... I wouldn't rate WoW that high due to it's lack of things to do at endgame. All you have is a little PvP or whatever the latest raid, that's it. All prior raids and dungeons have been obsoleted to the point they're mostly abandoned now. (Caveat... as of Lich King, haven't played since Cataclysm.)  In GW2 the entire game is viable still at endgame, you haven't been gated into a tiny bit of "elite" content (which will soon be obsolete and replaced with the next tiny bit). 

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Telondariel

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4/17/13 3:48:17 PM#71
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Siphaed's post is very complete, so I will only add this:

Since I play GW2, all those "quest hub with fixed quests" based MMORPG, including WoW, are boring to me. I couldn't be arsed to level more than one character through Pandaria, just thinking I had to level my alt doing EXACTLY the same quests in the same areas made be abandon before I even started.

And I'm no WoW hater, 2 accounts for 8 years, and I had a blast in that game up to "hardcore" raiding. But it's over now, I couldn't go back to that kind of theme park MMO after playing GW2.

I don't see any difference in what you are describing, and Hearts.  They are a fixed point (you can see them on a map) with a heart rather than a question mark.  And yes, they are exactly the same quests as you level your alts through the same areas.

 

I play the game and I like it, so I'm not hating here.  However, if you think there is a difference between what you described and GW2's Hearts then you have blinders on.

 

Oh, and you couldn't get any more themepark than GW2.

I played WoW.  I play GW2.  Hearts are not the same as WoW quests, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

1.) For starters, you never have to run back to anyone.  The fact that the heart NPC is always in the same place really doesn't matter, mostly for reason 2.

2.) You can almost always complete Hearts in numerous ways, unlike WoW's quests that always have one objective (at least at the time I last played).  So that means they are NOT exactly the same quests for your alts.  In fact, I've done a different objective on the same heart for 3 different alts.  I can CHOOSE what way to fill that bar, negating your point completely.

He said he's bored because of the type of questing, not that it has questing, and said he doesn't want to go back to "that type" of MMORPG.  Try reading a little harder.  No one ever said GW2 wasn't a themepark, but I feel the exact same way... I couldn't go back to WoW's questing (the ONLY type of questing it has by the way) after GW2.

Ah, the bulleted points and the "Learn to Read" comment.  I knew I was going to be jumped on when I made a comment.  /sigh

1)  Not having to run back to anyone doesn't make it any less of a quest.

 

2)  One Heart will give variation of 2-3 options.  Every time you run an alt through there, its the same thing.  DE's in the area are the same for every alt as well.  I'm not sure what about that you are defending.  There is no point negation there, you just went on with your own point which..wasn't a point.

 

Oh, and why so aggressive and rude?  The people on this forum really make me /boggle sometimes.

 

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/17/13 3:52:21 PM#72

Wait, after misinterpreting someone's post, I tell you the differences between the two games' questing systems, which is what you wanted to know in the first place, and you essentially repeat back to me exactly what I said and exactly how they're different.

I don't need to be aggressive.  In fact, I really don't need to say anything.

Still, I apologize if you felt I was being aggressive.  I just know they're different and apparently so do you.

  Kaleston

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4/18/13 4:13:10 AM#73
Originally posted by Telondariel
Ah, the bulleted points and the "Learn to Read" comment.  I knew I was going to be jumped on when I made a comment.  /sigh

1)  Not having to run back to anyone doesn't make it any less of a quest.

 

2)  One Heart will give variation of 2-3 options.  Every time you run an alt through there, its the same thing.  DE's in the area are the same for every alt as well.  I'm not sure what about that you are defending.  There is no point negation there, you just went on with your own point which..wasn't a point.

 

Oh, and why so aggressive and rude?  The people on this forum really make me /boggle sometimes.

 

Even though hearts may seem like quests in theory, in reality it's different. In wow type quest you HAVE TO go to quest giver and accept a quest. You HAVE TO go and do whatever quest wants you to do and you HAVE TO deliver quest.

GW2 goes different way. You just pass by and you do stuff... If you choose so you can do heart specifically and then it will be almost the same as WoW quest (there actually are a few hearts where you HAVE TO do certain thing to fill them up and those feel extremely boring compared to other content). On the other hand you can simply run around area and do your thing and more often than not you can finish the heart without even realizing you're doing it.

This is main difference for me. In wow I was forced to do those quests and do exactly what quest wanted me to do. In GW2, I can simply do stuff and more often than not "quests" are done somehow naturaly along me doing my stuff. This actually goes for dynamic events and for hearts.

To put it differently. Let's say quest giver in WoW gives you a quest "kill 10 boars". Ok that's fine. But what if other quest giver gave you quest "bring me 10 boar tusks"? You most likely killed more than 10 boars while doing that quest. Why the heck do you need to go to quest giver for special permission to do his task? He wants 10 boars killed. It's been done. So what?

In GW2 however you just go to area and someone in that area wants 10 boars killed. So you go there and you kill stuff for loot or whatnot and in the meantime you kill 10 boars. And "quest giver" is happy, because his quest is finished.

 

Just a side note about alts... I'm altaholic... I have 8 characters on level 80. I also had about 5 characters on max level in WoW. Believe me leveling in GW2 and WoW is sooooo different. In WoW there is pretty much the only path you can take. Yeah there are some overlapping zones, but in a nutshell you're still running the same content. In GW2 I was not bored leveling my characters at all. For first zones are much richer in my opinion and tehre is a lot of hidden stuff around. Even those dynamic events... some do not run so very often and you can pass the zone a few times without catching that event chain. For second you can do a lot of stuff to level up. If you're bored with PvE zone leveling, you jump into WvW, fool around for a while and get a level or two so you can move forward and skip boring stuff. Or you can craft. Or you can leave exps from daily achievements to your noob characters. Or you can run event chain again and again and again if you so desire. Or....

  Mors.Magne

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OP  4/18/13 4:53:45 AM#74

I'm looking forward to trying GW2 this weekend.

 

I get the impression GW2 has been designed for the casual player in mind (somebody like me).

 

The emphasis is on 'fun' rather than on 'grinding for the best gear'.

 

I think the endgame content of WoW is mostly grinding for hardcore players (willing to commit at least 2 hours solid, every few days or so).

 

It's a pity that SWTOR isn't more like GW2 with respect to freedom (to explore).

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/18/13 7:46:07 AM#75
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I'm looking forward to trying GW2 this weekend.

 

I get the impression GW2 has been designed for the casual player in mind (somebody like me).

 

The emphasis is on 'fun' rather than on 'grinding for the best gear'.

 

I think the endgame content of WoW is mostly grinding for hardcore players (willing to commit at least 2 hours solid, every few days or so).

 

It's a pity that SWTOR isn't more like GW2 with respect to freedom (to explore).

Since you are in UK, if you look for a casual EU guild with an active and friendly player core, send me a PM. My guild is up since beta (we also played SW:TOR before, among other games), and we only have casual adults "with a life", a relaxed mature atmosphere.

Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2

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