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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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4/16/13 7:03:33 AM#41

Siphaed's post is very complete, so I will only add this:

Since I play GW2, all those "quest hub with fixed quests" based MMORPG, including WoW, are boring to me. I couldn't be arsed to level more than one character through Pandaria, just thinking I had to level my alt doing EXACTLY the same quests in the same areas made be abandon before I even started.

And I'm no WoW hater, 2 accounts for 8 years, and I had a blast in that game up to "hardcore" raiding. But it's over now, I couldn't go back to that kind of theme park MMO after playing GW2.

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  Volkon

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4/16/13 9:57:26 AM#42
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I saw this Angry Joe review - he gave GW2 10/10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y

 

GW2 looks amazing.

 

But how does it compare to WoW?

 

I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people who have played GW2 for quite a while.

To be honest:  WoW has more content for maxed players. ..

You know... I keep seeing this stated, but does it really? What content does WoW have for maxed players? Seriously, aside from whatever the latest raid is and maybe some PvP, is there anything else? Back when I played (pre-Cata) you had basically one raid and that was it. On off nights (not raiding) you log in, do some dailies, I'd make some ammo to sell and... well, that was pretty much it. WoW has hardly any viable content for max level players from what I remember. Maybe someone could list off viable content for the latest version of WoW... every thing you do when you have everything...

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  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/16/13 10:42:14 AM#43
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by observer
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I saw this Angry Joe review - he gave GW2 10/10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y

 

GW2 looks amazing.

 

But how does it compare to WoW?

 

I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people who have played GW2 for quite a while.

To be honest:  WoW has more content for maxed players. ..

You know... I keep seeing this stated, but does it really? What content does WoW have for maxed players? Seriously, aside from whatever the latest raid is and maybe some PvP, is there anything else? Back when I played (pre-Cata) you had basically one raid and that was it. On off nights (not raiding) you log in, do some dailies, I'd make some ammo to sell and... well, that was pretty much it. WoW has hardly any viable content for max level players from what I remember. Maybe someone could list off viable content for the latest version of WoW... every thing you do when you have everything...

Yeah, I thought the same thing personally.  WoW has more content than probably any MMO out there that I can think of, possibly with the exception of EQ.. don't know, never played it but it has like a bazillion expansions.. but the problem with the "maxed players" logic is that this so-called content is obsolete.  So correction: this content is NOT for max level players, hell most of it isn't even for players its own level anymore, since there's absolutely no incentive to do raids from lower xpacs anymore except to get some transmog patterns.

And if you count that as max level content... well...

  Greyhooff

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4/16/13 11:17:03 AM#44

Well I've played pretty much all the major MMOs:

WoW for 6 years, WAR for 2 years, AoC for 1, Secret World, AION, Tera, etc - and back in the day EQ and Ultima Online.

I could explain at length really all the reasons why, in detail, but suffice it to say this:

GW2 is just far better than all the other MMOs, and really shows how games like WoW, AION, etc are nothing but boring gear treadmills for losers.

  RizelStar

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4/16/13 11:46:48 AM#45
Originally posted by Greyhooff

Well I've played pretty much all the major MMOs:

WoW for 6 years, WAR for 2 years, AoC for 1, Secret World, AION, Tera, etc - and back in the day EQ and Ultima Online.

I could explain at length really all the reasons why, in detail, but suffice it to say this:

GW2 is just far better than all the other MMOs, and really shows how games like WoW, AION, etc are nothing but boring gear treadmills for losers.

Man I don't think those who like gear treadmills are loosers, in fact I don't think those who like WoW,Aion, and etc are loosers.

The only ones that are actual loosers are those jaded or just a "lost cause" into thinking that if an MMO doesn't have a gear treadmill, being forced to be social, and/or needs a holy trinity is not an MMORPG,MMO, or RPG.

Those are the loosers but people who like things for what it is and really don't be bothering other MMOs and not trying to act as if it's not MMORPG because it doesn't have what all these other MMOs have(Cause in ensense they just stuck to the same formula) they aren't loosers they are just gamers who like different things.(Sorry for double negatives if any, english is my primary but will admit it's not my strong suit and yes that is my fault ha ha)

Now to be fair if you don't play GW2 all because it's different, I think that's fine, to me and to answer the OP's question WoW and GW2 are very different from each other, because if they weren't I would be enjoying and actually made it to level 20 atleast in WoW it just is nt my type, and it relies on the Holy Trinity, Gear Treadmill, and I'm assuming forced grouping to get the job done. Is it a bad game? To me no, when I was younger I wanted to play it so bad, but that sub(I mean I'm 19 now so yea I was young lol) I only got to play Runescape ha ha, there were probably better F2P but my computer wasn't great then.

Like really if Wildstar is B2P, I think I'll give it a try because it also isn't Tab Target I think it's a hybrid like GW2, cause I only like Hybrid or action just the type of gamer I am, I'm not going to try to fool myself and be foolish to think if a game doesn't cater to what I like that it isn't what it claim to be(I.E a lot of guys claim GW2 isn't a MMORPG) and that it can still be a great game.(WoW to me is great so is EQ IMHO). 

 

So to the OP, I hope you try out the free trail, you may or may not see or want to accept the differences, pros, and/or cons of GW2 when coompared to WoW, but hey it's you. 

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  Shazzel

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4/16/13 12:00:59 PM#46

Having played to 80 in guild wars 2 and quit , can someone explain what is good about it? maybe I missed the memo.  The world was kinda cool the first 20 levels then you realize that its just the same over and over, till 80.

GW2 starts off very strong in the first 20 levels but most players quickly realize how poor the quest(dynamic event/heart) variety is. I can't even count how many times I had to defend a camp from X waves of enemies, or collect objects on the ground for an NPC. Entering a new zone doesn't feel new at all. Dynamic events become trivial when the players make a zerg, and most impossible w<span blurb_expanded"="">hen solo. The game makes it difficult/pointless and not fun to group with friends.

 

Socialize? nope none I made 0 friends and talked to almost no one from 1-80 (note: I am not anti-social and made lots of friends in other MMO's). There just is no reason to talk to anyone.

 

Dungeons? After playing them, the dungeons are generally poorly constructed and not a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy doing them 1000x times for gear & farming. MMO sadism at its finest.

 

Endgame? stationary farming over and over, dungeons or working the auction house. Game play is boring and feels very disconnected. Could be the worst economy in any mmo to date. bots bots bots, player , bots , bots bots, player.

 

The entire system just lends itself to buying gold online (cheaply) or from Anet (expensive) to bypass the massive grind. Not sure what the point is since the grind is the ENDGAME, save your money and buy a new game not named Guild Wars 2

  greywolf2002

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4/16/13 12:04:16 PM#47
Simply: it doesn't. They are 2 differet kind of games.
  Karelia

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4/16/13 12:07:05 PM#48
Different games for different audience.
  Shazzel

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4/16/13 12:08:58 PM#49
Originally posted by greywolf2002
Simply: it doesn't. They are 2 differet kind of games.

 

They can still be compared but WoW wins every category (beides graphics).  Even Guild Wars 1 would score higher in most areas.

  Amjoco

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4/16/13 12:11:42 PM#50
Originally posted by Shazzel

Having played to 80 in guild wars 2 and quit , can someone explain what is good about it? maybe I missed the memo.  The world was kinda cool the first 20 levels then you realize that its just the same over and over, till 80.

 

GW2 starts off very strong in the first 20 levels but most players quickly realize how poor the quest(dynamic event/heart) variety is. I can't even count how many times I had to defend a camp from X waves of enemies, or collect objects on the ground for an NPC. Entering a new zone doesn't feel new at all. Dynamic events become trivial when the players make a zerg, and most are impossible w<span blurb_expanded"="">hen solo. The game makes it difficult/pointless and not fun to group with friends.

 

Socialize? nope none I made 0 friends and talked to almost no one from 1-80 (note: I am not anti-social and made lots of friends in other MMO's). There just is no reason to talk to anyone.

 

Dungeons? After playing them, the dungeons are generally poorly constructed and not a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy doing them 1000x times for gear & farming. MMO sadism at its finest.

 

Endgame? stationary farming over and over, dungeons or working the auction house. Game play is boring and feels very disconnected. Could be the worst economy in any mmo to date. bots bots bots, player , bots , bots bots, player.

 

The entire system just lends itself to buying gold online (cheaply) or from Anet (expensive) to bypass the massive grind. Not sure what the point is since the grind is the ENDGAME, save your money and buy a new game not named Guild Wars 2

There is way more to do than just hit level cap.

Did you know that after you level cap you still gain skill points, and these can be used at the mystic forge? Complete your personal story, get your crafting to 400 and make exotic gear and weapons, do all the jumping puzzles, collect dungeon armor sets, get all your pve titles, Rank in sPvP, do all your achevements, etc etc. 

One of my favorite goals is to unlock character and bank slots by not paying cash. I like trying to make my own gold for these.

This game is no different than anyother when you hit level cap other than it doesn't really end there. Just play and have fun!

If you were to buy another game you are more than likely going to pay a sub and that will cost about $180 annually in subs alone. You could buy 3 AAA titles with that.

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  Volkon

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4/16/13 2:02:06 PM#51
Originally posted by Shazzel

Having played to 80 in guild wars 2 and quit , can someone explain what is good about it? maybe I missed the memo.  The world was kinda cool the first 20 levels then you realize that its just the same over and over, till 80.

GW2 starts off very strong in the first 20 levels but most players quickly realize how poor the quest(dynamic event/heart) variety is. I can't even count how many times I had to defend a camp from X waves of enemies, or collect objects on the ground for an NPC. Entering a new zone doesn't feel new at all. Dynamic events become trivial when the players make a zerg, and most impossible w<span blurb_expanded"="">hen solo. The game makes it difficult/pointless and not fun to group with friends.

 

Socialize? nope none I made 0 friends and talked to almost no one from 1-80 (note: I am not anti-social and made lots of friends in other MMO's). There just is no reason to talk to anyone.

 

Dungeons? After playing them, the dungeons are generally poorly constructed and not a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy doing them 1000x times for gear & farming. MMO sadism at its finest.

 

Endgame? stationary farming over and over, dungeons or working the auction house. Game play is boring and feels very disconnected. Could be the worst economy in any mmo to date. bots bots bots, player , bots , bots bots, player.

 

The entire system just lends itself to buying gold online (cheaply) or from Anet (expensive) to bypass the massive grind. Not sure what the point is since the grind is the ENDGAME, save your money and buy a new game not named Guild Wars 2

Huh. I'd swear from reading this that you never played GW2 and made all this crap up. Simple fact... it only took two or three CoF runs to get a piece of gear from there (I wanted the shoulder skin). Bots haven't been a serious issue since... well, ages. WvW is my current endgame, unless I'm doing Fractals for fun, working map completions or contemplating going for my first Legendary. Oh, and the Super Adventure Box. Buying gold is for fools. Gold is only one currency, and not one of the most important ones. 

 

You know... there's a free trial this weekend. Maybe you should actually play the game before making shtako up.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

4/16/13 2:19:20 PM#52

There's more to do at cap than there ever was in GW1, and people played that game for years.  Honestly, I don't know how, but still...

Definitely disagree about the dungeons though.  They were as entertaining and well made as any WoW 5 man, especially Fractals.

  Amjoco

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4/16/13 4:04:47 PM#53
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Shazzel

Having played to 80 in guild wars 2 and quit , can someone explain what is good about it? maybe I missed the memo.  The world was kinda cool the first 20 levels then you realize that its just the same over and over, till 80.

GW2 starts off very strong in the first 20 levels but most players quickly realize how poor the quest(dynamic event/heart) variety is. I can't even count how many times I had to defend a camp from X waves of enemies, or collect objects on the ground for an NPC. Entering a new zone doesn't feel new at all. Dynamic events become trivial when the players make a zerg, and most impossible w<span blurb_expanded"="">hen solo. The game makes it difficult/pointless and not fun to group with friends.

 

Socialize? nope none I made 0 friends and talked to almost no one from 1-80 (note: I am not anti-social and made lots of friends in other MMO's). There just is no reason to talk to anyone.

 

Dungeons? After playing them, the dungeons are generally poorly constructed and not a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy doing them 1000x times for gear & farming. MMO sadism at its finest.

 

Endgame? stationary farming over and over, dungeons or working the auction house. Game play is boring and feels very disconnected. Could be the worst economy in any mmo to date. bots bots bots, player , bots , bots bots, player.

 

The entire system just lends itself to buying gold online (cheaply) or from Anet (expensive) to bypass the massive grind. Not sure what the point is since the grind is the ENDGAME, save your money and buy a new game not named Guild Wars 2

Huh. I'd swear from reading this that you never played GW2 and made all this crap up. Simple fact... it only took two or three CoF runs to get a piece of gear from there (I wanted the shoulder skin). Bots haven't been a serious issue since... well, ages. WvW is my current endgame, unless I'm doing Fractals for fun, working map completions or contemplating going for my first Legendary. Oh, and the Super Adventure Box. Buying gold is for fools. Gold is only one currency, and not one of the most important ones. 

 

You know... there's a free trial this weekend. Maybe you should actually play the game before making shtako up.

He probably played on release and burned to 80, didn't educate himself enough on the game, and quit.

Even in Vanilla WoW way back when you had to learn the game. Why? because it was one of the only MMORPGs out. You forced yourself to learn the game. GW2 comes along, you hit 80 and you expect it to be like WoW and see no point in continuing. 

Anyway, I love WoW but I can differentiate the difference between the two and play both. /shrug

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  Mors.Magne

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OP  4/17/13 8:45:22 AM#54

GW2 came to my attention because it has the greatest number of people using the GW2 forums by 3x the next most popular forums.

That''s quite an amazing acheivement to sustain for a year.

It also has a slightly better rating than the next most rated game - The Secret World.

 

So I will be trying GW2 this weekend - there must be something in it.

 

(And it obviously appears to be better than SWTOR).

  Zeus.CM

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4/17/13 9:20:56 AM#55
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

GW2 came to my attention because it has the greatest number of people using the GW2 forums by 3x the next most popular forums.

That''s quite an amazing acheivement to sustain for a year.

It also has a slightly better rating than the next most rated game - The Secret World.

 

So I will be trying GW2 this weekend - there must be something in it.

 

(And it obviously appears to be better than SWTOR).

No harm in trying it out this weekend for free. Grab a key and download the game (15GB) :) See ya ingame

  akkedis86

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4/17/13 11:20:30 AM#56
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by itsbigmike
If you want to do nothing but pvp once you get max level you may like guild wars, but pve at endgame is essentially pointless once you get your orange/red gear

And WoW is different how once you get your gear? I think he was looking for differences! :)

a 50k crit is different than a 40k crit!  lol  ;)

You need that to kill the monster that has 10k more hp so you can get the 60k crit weapon (to kill the monster that has 20k more hp)

Sounds Exhilirating  :D .

  Lacomp

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4/17/13 11:21:14 AM#57
Apples and Oranges my friend. Apples and Oranges.
  akkedis86

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4/17/13 11:27:15 AM#58
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

GW2 came to my attention because it has the greatest number of people using the GW2 forums by 3x the next most popular forums.

That''s quite an amazing acheivement to sustain for a year.

It also has a slightly better rating than the next most rated game - The Secret World.

 

So I will be trying GW2 this weekend - there must be something in it.

 

(And it obviously appears to be better than SWTOR).

I'm not liking that bottom comment :D . 

 

Though Guild Wars 2 was a good game, the overuse of  jumping puzzles( I suck at them btw) and the lack of progression options leave you thinking what to do next, as the start-zones are emptier than they used to be, and there's not as many dynamic events at such a frequency anymore which leaves a gap, and leaves you wondering what to do next. It is a great game, but it's always missed something, and those guys at Arenanet really put in allot of effort with regards to events, etc. 

 

I'll reroll an alt when there's an expansion, and see what comes next. 

At top level you are literally top level. You can get fluff for grind, and that's not for me.

 

I still play Swtor, will be my primary for a very long time cause of the extremely healthy population, etc., but that's just me.

  fivoroth

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4/17/13 11:29:04 AM#59
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

I saw this Angry Joe review - he gave GW2 10/10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y

GW2 looks amazing.

But how does it compare to WoW?

I'm particularly interested in the opinions of people who have played GW2 for quite a while.

They're very different games.

Perhaps the biggest mistake most players make, is treating them like they're the same. GW2 does a fairly poor job of demonstrating how different the game is to new players, you kinda have to learn that on your own (adapt your own mindset to accept this).

That said;

- WoW is a very polished, raid-oriented gear grind game. The primary focus for most WoW players are playing those new dungeons / raids, and striving to get the next tier of gear.

- GW2 is a fairly polished skill-based game, with focus on customization over tiered gear. You can get the best stats in the game quite easily, and for some this doesn't give them that feeling of accomplishment they've grown to expect  from most MMOs. Furthermore, the game is skill-based, so expect to have to challenge yourself and make your own accomplishments. The game doesn't really force you to do anything, but that also means it's not going to go out of it's way to make you feel special either.

Basically, if you enjoy traditional WoW-style themepark MMOs, stick w/ WoW. If you want to try a different style of gameplay (somewhere in between themepark and sandbox), GW2 is definitely worth trying out. Just give it a fair shot. There's a lot of different ways to experience the game. Some people make the mistake of assuming they have to play it a particular way, and then give up. One big example of this is in the classes. Each class feels extremely different in playstyle. You may love one, and hate the others.

How is GW2 a skill-based game and how does that translate into extra challenge? From my experience with GW2 it is not any more challenging than your standard MMO. Does lack of gear progression = skill based game? PvE to me seems just as challenging as WoW's PvE. In PvP sPvP can be considered skill based as gear and skills are completely taken out of the equation. But I do think that WoW's arena play is just as skill based. Actually I found WoW's arenas to be much more challengng than the sPvP in GW2.

@OP, they are very different. GW2 follows the same philosophy as its predecessor of not having any real gear progression. Once you hit max level you will get the best armour pretty soon. Then you can grind dungeons for item skins just like in GW1. GW2 doesn't haave the class roles you see in other games. Most classes are dps classes with some utility spin thrown in. However, they do play very differently.

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  DamonVile

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4/17/13 11:38:49 AM#60
Originally posted by Mors.Magne

GW2 came to my attention because it has the greatest number of people using the GW2 forums by 3x the next most popular forums.

That''s quite an amazing acheivement to sustain for a year.

It also has a slightly better rating than the next most rated game - The Secret World.

 

So I will be trying GW2 this weekend - there must be something in it.

 

(And it obviously appears to be better than SWTOR).

gw2 is one of those mmos that every mmo player should try. I didn't like it but I don't regret buying it. I played for 2 months and put in a fair number of hours in that time.

It's one of those games that could be the best mmo you've played in years. Anyone really looking for one to play should always jump at that :)

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