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General Discussion  » Tasos now telling Beta testers to redownload game via torrent@ 9hrs

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  Deerhunter71

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Posts: 548

4/16/13 2:54:31 PM#41
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by raapnaap
You can also patch through the launcher from your beta client soon. Mention all the facts before posting a hate thread.

I've believe that when my client starts patching!!!

Wait- what? What on earth are you doing trying to download this game, Hancakes? You have done nothing but cry about it for weeks!

I'd hate to see how you respond to a game you DON'T want to play!

I'm sure he just wants AV to get their shit together because he likes Darkfall and just wants it better.  That goes for Deerhunter as well.

I actually would consider this game AFTER they put in all the content.  And if that miracle happened I would maybe do it, but honestly they would probably ban me and then I am out $ since I am already banned for charging back once.  Granted that was my decision to make and I do not think I have anything to worry about anyway - but hey maybe I will - never know.

 

BUT load lag is still in and that is a big turnoff for a game based on PvP - since everyone will always know when you are coming...

  Thomas2006

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Posts: 766

4/16/13 2:55:21 PM#42

Anyone want to bet the torrent seed [main) is being run off there game + web server. Cause that is sure what they did during beta. When it first launched the game was unplayable for a good period of time because it was all on the same machine / bandwidth.

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  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
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OP  4/16/13 3:02:31 PM#43
Originally posted by Thomas2006

Anyone want to bet the torrent seed [main) is being run off there game + web server. Cause that is sure what they did during beta. When it first launched the game was unplayable for a good period of time because it was all on the same machine / bandwidth.

Given AVs history of not learning from history!

  Hairysun

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Joined: 6/11/05
Posts: 1068

Boo ....

4/16/13 3:11:39 PM#44

meh ..... consistent torrent DL now at about 1500k.   (1:06 Hrs)

 

Well until I get to where everyone else is in the download ......

 

 

~Hairysun

 

 

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  luvboox

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4/16/13 3:29:52 PM#45
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by raapnaap
You can also patch through the launcher from your beta client soon. Mention all the facts before posting a hate thread.

I've believe that when my client starts patching!!!

Wait- what? What on earth are you doing trying to download this game, Hancakes? You have done nothing but cry about it for weeks!

I'd hate to see how you respond to a game you DON'T want to play!

I'm sure he just wants AV to get their shit together because he likes Darkfall and just wants it better.  That goes for Deerhunter as well.

Exactly!

Forgive me if I'm skeptical. If you want the game to be better, why would you not do what I did, and give constructive criticism on the Beta forums, rather than griping and chasing everyone away from the game on mmorpg.com? You do realize that's the end result of all your ranting, right? In any case, I'm pretty sure AV doesn't check these forums for game suggestions.

  Deerhunter71

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Joined: 10/25/05
Posts: 548

4/16/13 3:49:42 PM#46
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by raapnaap
You can also patch through the launcher from your beta client soon. Mention all the facts before posting a hate thread.

I've believe that when my client starts patching!!!

Wait- what? What on earth are you doing trying to download this game, Hancakes? You have done nothing but cry about it for weeks!

I'd hate to see how you respond to a game you DON'T want to play!

[mod edit]

 

 

[mod edit]
[mod edit]

And load lag is STILL in the damn game....  It was one of the constant complaints from people in DF1 and they wanted gone....  Load lag being in game already makes this a failure, because a game bent on PvP cannot have such a flaw in the game.

  luvboox

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Posts: 90

4/16/13 5:30:02 PM#47
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
 

And load lag is STILL in the damn game....  It was one of the constant complaints from people in DF1 and they wanted gone....  Load lag being in game already makes this a failure, because a game bent on PvP cannot have such a flaw in the game.

If load lag is still in the game that is certainly a big problem, but I don't think it makes the game a total failure. It will certainly make PvP a problem until they fix it, but you have to get prowess points anyway, so you might as well do that while you wait for AV to take out the load lag. Unless, of course, you don't believe that AV will ever fix it- in which case I suggest a different game.

  Mykell

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Joined: 4/30/06
Posts: 598

4/16/13 5:46:25 PM#48
I actually think making us all download the client is genius. It's just AV's way of having a staggered release. Congrats to Tasos for pulling it off i say.
  Deerhunter71

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Joined: 10/25/05
Posts: 548

4/16/13 5:57:19 PM#49
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.
  RogueJD

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Joined: 5/09/07
Posts: 28

4/16/13 6:14:39 PM#50
Originally posted by Hancakes

Why am I not surprised ?    Having the download ready prior to release would have made too much sense eh Tasos? 

 

 

 

Edit, looks like forums are now down.

https://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?362845-Darkfall-Unholy-Wars-Torrent-is-up&p=5978882#post5978882

 

How can they not learn from past mistakes?

DF1 Beta release, DF release, DFUW beta release, DFUW release  all the exact same AVOIDABLE problems.

[mod edit] You want to play the game.  So do I!  [mod edit]

 

Look at it from a cost-benefit-analysis point of view  (Let's not forget, it's a source of income for a development firm).  Launch days notoriously suck.  Even a "Triple A" developer can ride that wave all the way to Excuse-land.

The cost of implementing an effective network infrastructure to survive a flawless launch week FAR outweighs the benefit.  The "Excuse" is enough.

"Proper planning prevents piss-poor preformance" - That argument is actively marketed against.  How many apologetic developers have offered some sort of recompense for the percieved loss?  These are often offered when the network loads have settled.  In short, launch-day-"blues" are easily forgotten.

"What about Pre-download?"  Good point.  Arguably a more efficient means of balancing launch-day server loads.  This might lend some notion that the developer isn't credible.  Cost is relatively low.  Risk is relatively moderate-to-low.  I personally question why this wasn't better implemented.  To -not- implement a preload lends to the notion that the developer / publisher leans heavily toward the "profit" margin, as opposed to the "satisfaction" margin.  In short, they could have spent a few buck to flip a few switches earlier to allow us to download sooner.

 

You're players in  dynamic game.  And I'm not talkin' about the one on your monitor.  See past the login screen, and try to understand something for what it truly is before you comment on it with such ignorant passion.

 

//Edit:  Arguments concerning torrent speed:  Please at least read a wiki on Torrents, and how they work.  Do your part.  Stay online and Seed.

  luvboox

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Joined: 2/01/10
Posts: 90

4/16/13 9:14:39 PM#51
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.

Well, we will see I guess. I really do hope they fix it, but it's not a real game-breaker for me. Just because I know someone is coming doesn't mean I know whether I can beat them or not  :P

  User Deleted
4/16/13 10:33:37 PM#52
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.

Well, we will see I guess. I really do hope they fix it, but it's not a real game-breaker for me. Just because I know someone is coming doesn't mean I know whether I can beat them or not  :P

First you say you've experieneced no lag other than music, now you admit to having load lag?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5676916#5676916

 

The only noticable lag I experienced during the beta was when the music started up. That's it. I also have a pretty doomful gaming machine.

  User Deleted
4/16/13 10:43:48 PM#53
Originally posted by LongLivePvP
Yeah were gonna be waiting for a bit haha but what else is there to PLAY????!!!! 

Well, I'm going to go to work while it's patching. Then if it's not done when I get back, I will play Defiance. 

  User Deleted
4/17/13 2:03:48 AM#54
Originally posted by Mykell
I actually think making us all download the client is genius. It's just AV's way of having a staggered release. Congrats to Tasos for pulling it off i say.

Yes. I was thinking that too.  Now at 23%.  Download speed fluxuating wildly between 40-200 kb/s.

  Naowut

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Joined: 1/17/07
Posts: 657

4/17/13 2:16:07 AM#55
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.

Well, we will see I guess. I really do hope they fix it, but it's not a real game-breaker for me. Just because I know someone is coming doesn't mean I know whether I can beat them or not  :P

First you say you've experieneced no lag other than music, now you admit to having load lag?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5676916#5676916

 

The only noticable lag I experienced during the beta was when the music started up. That's it. I also have a pretty doomful gaming machine.

Load lag isnt lag.

  User Deleted
4/17/13 2:34:17 AM#56
Originally posted by Naowut
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.

Well, we will see I guess. I really do hope they fix it, but it's not a real game-breaker for me. Just because I know someone is coming doesn't mean I know whether I can beat them or not  :P

First you say you've experieneced no lag other than music, now you admit to having load lag?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5676916#5676916

 

The only noticable lag I experienced during the beta was when the music started up. That's it. I also have a pretty doomful gaming machine.

Load lag isnt lag.

HAHA       It certainly doesnt equal smooth gameplay which was the topic.    Load lag isnt lag is super funny thanks :)

  RandomDown

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Joined: 7/25/12
Posts: 147

4/17/13 2:40:05 AM#57
Originally posted by Naowut
Originally posted by ilives
Originally posted by luvboox
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
luvboox - they could never fix it in df 1.0 so I doubt it will happen this time either. I may have overstated that it alone makes the game fail totally, but it is close. They knew the community wanted and they said it would be done.

Well, we will see I guess. I really do hope they fix it, but it's not a real game-breaker for me. Just because I know someone is coming doesn't mean I know whether I can beat them or not  :P

First you say you've experieneced no lag other than music, now you admit to having load lag?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5676916#5676916

 

The only noticable lag I experienced during the beta was when the music started up. That's it. I also have a pretty doomful gaming machine.

Load lag isnt lag.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lag

It is indeed.

  Deerhunter71

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Joined: 10/25/05
Posts: 548

4/17/13 7:08:50 AM#58
Load lag which was one of the biggest complaints in the first game just ruins a game based on PvP/full loot....  Just like having built in radar into the game, lol
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