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  User Deleted
4/16/13 3:27:31 AM#61
Originally posted by BeggarKing
There's about seven and a half thousand ppl who disagree and I suspect many more are waiting before jumping aboard, I would guess about 10k by the end of KS. I don't mind paying £10 a month to play so x10 by 10,000 a month and I think the game will scrape by somehow

That is great, YOU think the game will scrape by with 10k subs, the thing is, MJ has already stated the number he is looking for is at least 50k.

Less than 10k backers just now on KS, MJ has told backers multiple times not to increase the amount they have pledged, and the reason for that is simple, it is not just 2 million in cash MJ is looking for, he is also looking at how many people are backing it, because he needs at least 50k players for this niche game to make a profit.

So even if the funding goal is reached, the future of CU will still be in doubt.

  Scot

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4/16/13 3:35:44 AM#62

I am not saying she is lying, but she looks a bit young to have started with DAOC, maybe in her mid teeens?

 

“PlanetSide 2 does this, but does that game offer immersive community within? That’s debatable.”

No it does not, but then if you can get one thing right, and do it well that’s a plus in my book.

 

“In other words, maybe vets are so starved for that meaningful RvR, interdependence, and a sense of real player impact that hope generated hype is too high.”

My thoughts exactly, I have been posting to that effect every time we get a new KS old school MMO article. Hope is fueling this, we need to be realistic.

 

I do not think it is a question of moving on, it is a question of what makes for the best kind of gameplay in a MMO? For me it is a hybrid between old and new gameplay.

  Khalathwyr

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4/16/13 4:40:47 AM#63

The world has moved on, OR, Maybe you kids should realize that not every game is going to be made for you.

 

A game does not need PvE to have a good community. PvErs do not have the monopoly on community building. Just becasue a design method was used in the past doesn't mean it's not valid for the present. Especially if it was enjoyed by a significant segemnt of the population.

 

It seems at times most of you "young" ones, those who weren't around to play the first generation MMOs at launch, are quick to dismiss anything that seems "hard, tedious," or that you just don't understand and also negatively label it. Nostalgia used to be a pleasant word yet forums like these have turn it into one of  the most negative.

 

Kudos to MJ and all the old school guys making games on KS. Keep it up. Those fan bases that supported you then will yet support you again. Keep making games in those old school ways that provides long days of replayable entertainment as opposed to the modern version of making it easy so the kiddos don't cry, finish it with least resistance and be ready next month to buy the sequel.

 

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  Wickedjelly

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4/16/13 4:49:23 AM#64
Originally posted by Khalathwyr

The world has moved on, OR, Maybe you kids should realize that not every game is going to be made for you.

 

A game does not need PvE to have a good community. PvErs do not have the monopoly on community building. Just becasue a design method was used in the past doesn't mean it's not valid for the present. Especially if it was enjoyed by a significant segemnt of the population.

 

It seems at times most of you "young" ones, those who weren't around to play the first generation MMOs at launch, are quick to dismiss anything that seems "hard, tedious," or that you just don't understand and also negatively label it. Nostalgia used to be a pleasant word yet forums like these have turn it into one of  the most negative.

 

Kudos to MJ and all the old school guys making games on KS. Keep it up. Those fan bases that supported you then will yet support you again. Keep making games in those old school ways that provides long days of replayable entertainment as opposed to the modern version of making it easy so the kiddos don't cry, finish it with least resistance and be ready next month to buy the sequel.

 

Kind of amusing how often the "kiddy" card gets thrown around in reference to this subject matter. You should call them Mister Poopy Pants too. That will really show 'em.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  TheHavok

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4/16/13 5:17:34 AM#65
Originally posted by MarkJacobs
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by will75

So it sounds like you're saying, the old people need to just go to the retirement home and deal with the way things are now?  While you try to back off that, that's your general tone of this article.

 

Guess what? You kids can get off my lawn and you're not getting your ball back.

SWTOR WoW and GW2's awful copying of DAOC rvr are options for you.

Enjoy them, and blizzard will also have another dumbed down mmo for you soon.

Because Mark Jacobs doesn't deserve my money.

He had his chance with one of the largest IP's in the world. Warhammer. And screwed up beyond any words!

Just like Richard Garriott doesn't deserve my money either.

Both of these over-inflated EGO trippers had a huge studio under their bumbs, plenty of great talent at their finger tips and over 40 million US dollars in funding and more than enough time (5+ years)!

They had all the ingredients they needed to make a great game! (Warhammer Online and Tabula Rasa) and screwed it up BIG TIME!

Same thing with Bioware and SW:TOR! They had the largest budget ever! They had a huge amount of talent at their disposal! They had plenty of time (5+ years)!  And screwed up BIG TIME!

Publishers, in this case EA and NCSoft, had nothing to do with these debacles, as they gave them enough money and enough time to deliver the product.

It's not like they had to rush it to market within 2 years, like ATARI forced Cryptic to with CO and STO.

So please explain to me why this time it would be any different with Mr. Jacobs and Mr.Garriott?

I cannot believe how short of  memory people have these days.

I know it's always easy to portray publishers as the BIG BAD WOLF these days. And in case of EA it's sadly often true lately!

But for the above, EA and NCSoft were sertainly not to blame. Sorry, but that is just very naive.

Actually, we had three years. We signed the license deal for Warhammer at E3 June 2005, released in September 2008. Plus, the original development timeline for WAR was 2  years and we had two delays and I had to fight to get it to 3 years.

Why was the timeline so low? Who did you have to fight with to delay the game? 

  Bamboozle

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4/16/13 5:50:37 AM#66
10k backers..does not = 10k subs. It'll be a lot more than that. I mean, citizen had what, 22k backers by the end? Do you think that game will only have 22k subs? Also once the KS gets to 2m we can open PayPal for the people that cannot use CC and the like.
  znaiika

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4/16/13 7:20:33 AM#67
Originally posted by Thane

it's not hope, it's faith.

 

there is a difference :)

It's more like desperation, not hope nor faith.

  Tuktz

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4/16/13 10:39:19 AM#68

it's simple economics folks. supply & demand.

this kickstarter is weighing the demand for this, becuase currently there is no real supply for a game like this

if the demand is there, he will supply it. if not, then not.

he's always said it will be a niche though. so no illusions there.

this game would actually work  better with a smaller tighter knit community, instead of a f2p 99% of players don't care about the social side of game lol


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  Khalathwyr

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4/16/13 8:59:49 PM#69
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Khalathwyr

The world has moved on, OR, Maybe you kids should realize that not every game is going to be made for you.

 

A game does not need PvE to have a good community. PvErs do not have the monopoly on community building. Just becasue a design method was used in the past doesn't mean it's not valid for the present. Especially if it was enjoyed by a significant segemnt of the population.

 

It seems at times most of you "young" ones, those who weren't around to play the first generation MMOs at launch, are quick to dismiss anything that seems "hard, tedious," or that you just don't understand and also negatively label it. Nostalgia used to be a pleasant word yet forums like these have turn it into one of  the most negative.

 

Kudos to MJ and all the old school guys making games on KS. Keep it up. Those fan bases that supported you then will yet support you again. Keep making games in those old school ways that provides long days of replayable entertainment as opposed to the modern version of making it easy so the kiddos don't cry, finish it with least resistance and be ready next month to buy the sequel.

 

Kind of amusing how often the "kiddy" card gets thrown around in reference to this subject matter. You should call them Mister Poopy Pants too. That will really show 'em.

Nah, I save Mister Poopy Pants for when I really get going. :P Anyway, I know how old I am (mid 30s) and I'd wager there are a larger number of teenager to early 20s people here. Kids in my view.

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  Stormwind

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4/18/13 11:46:08 AM#70

I feels like these two great game makers are fighting back from being put out to pasture.   They still have the same great minds that put us in Luv with their games, but we have changed a Lot from those days, even though we may not realize it. 

 

For me personaly the Warhammer game and Tabula Rasa Games were a blast to play at first .. I was even involved a little while in Beta for Tabula Rasa.  Those two games blew me away until Release and Major Overhaul changes made to the FEEL and PLAY of the game.   

 

The changes to both games were so wide sweeping and so deeply Cutting into what was FUN in the game that players just could not contend with the changes.  New Players who had heard about how FUN the games were, Joined a game that had been fundamentaly changed, and of course, found it NOT FUN at all .. or only slightly fun. 

 

There will always be parts of a new game that needs attention after release .. but to make Huge sweeping changes to the Play and FEEL of a game weeks after Release is just asking to have the player base Blown Up.    Those types of changes are what alpha and beta should be for .. 

 

It slaps the face of the gamer who spent good money on a game based on feed back and hype from many sources about how fun and cool a game was to then have it fundamentaly change right under their nose weeks later.   Our ONLY recourse is to walk away and pull our support for the game .. AS NO amount of Talking on the games offical forum  will have any major impact on the game at that Point.   WE TRIED .. and were basically told .. Like it or Lump it ... 

 

WE LUMPED ... and Humped, and RAN away as fast as we could.    Imagine that ?  The game fell ro ruin shortly after >?  NOW go figure .. hmmmm ...

 

Then the game company has the audacity to Ask WHAT WENT WRONG ???  Fickle gamers ..  never happy with all we have worked on .. blah blah blah ..   Interseting to note that neither of those two games I mention ( and there have been others)  Ever >>> EVER >.... EVER went back and put the game as it was before the big exodus ... it is only AFTER ...LONG after they they even think to try and make some type of improvement .. but by that time the damage is done and not reversable. 

 

I will give you a good example .. Final Fantasy 14 .. YEP .. you all know that game right ?  From what I am seeing of the NEW REmake of the game they still have not GOT a clue as to why people hated that game .. I still see aspects, and lots of them, in the game that DID NOT work for hundreds of thousands of players .. but THEY are still IN the Remake of the game .. SHEESH ...

 

So I guess Good luck to you both .. I have loved and hated you both for your games .. But I will always have a spot in my heart for the GOOD times and do not hold a grudge for the BAD.   I really should thank you both for it was thru playing Tabula and Warhammer that I learned to Wait a few months before Buying into any new game ...

 

OH....  also FF14 is in that same catagory .. YIPES that game burned me bad when it launched.   I spent a week just trying to get out of the city and Never Did get anyone To Reply to any of my messages .. global or local or private .. what a piece of work that game was.

 

I ramble on ... Time to move along I guess and watch for the next Great game to hit the market.   Good luck with your new games .. From what I have read and seen I fear they are going to be only shadows of former glory.  Sorry, but it is what I see.  

 

 

 

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  M.Lefay

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4/21/13 12:51:50 PM#71

Let me start this by addressing one of the ongoing threads about age.  This isn't an age thing anymore, it's interest and what each person wants out of a game.   I'm 52 years old Grandmother, and I'll take any of you youngens PVP/RVR anytime.  Just because I is old don't mean I don't Pwn, you wippersnapperz. With that said LOL

 

When I was told about Camelot Unchained and then read that Mark was going to be at the helm I was totally excited.   I was one of the original Player and Guild Beta testers for DAOC and I have yet to find a game that I love as much as I did this game.

 

For me it was/is Siege. OMFG 9 hour 3-way sieges were unbelievable.  They were totally exhausting but fun as hell.  The alarm going off a 2 am because another realm was attempting to capture one of your relics?  And see 100’s of your realm mates run out to help. Or how many of you set up supply bots out in the enemy frontiers stocking up for your own realm's attack at the emeny relics, and trying to be sneaky about it so they wouldn’t get a clue?

 

The RvR in DAOC kept the community together.  The teamwork not to forget the mechanics involved in siege and defending has not been duplicated in any game since. When Warhammer came out and they said they were going to have siege, I was hopeful but greatly disappointed.  So for too many years I have been settling for the mundane grinding and ever so boring PVP in WoW.  I can’t wait to see what this team comes up with.  SAVE ME!!!

 

 
 
 
 
  wgc01

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4/21/13 4:27:19 PM#72
If this game ever see's the light of day, I give it  look, mmo's are a huge investment and many haver flopped before they even made it into beta when ,the money ran out.  Sounds like a cool game, I know I willbe  trying TESO when it comes out.. But this is once again o.ne of those time and money will be the answer to this question.. :)
  Colfy

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4/23/13 3:56:13 PM#73
Why is Only Mark Jacobs the cause of Warhammer failing. There were 2 head guys and a company that is known to destroy the games they back.  Yet only one name keeps popping up as the fall guy. Get over it already. by now you people who blame Mark Jacobs for Warhammer have already thrown money at other games that ended up being not what you wanted to play in the end, which is also a fail. I could name a few but that isn't the point. CU is solid PvP. For those that don't "Like" PvP then fine, play something else. PvP is a viable game in its self ask any LoL player and see if they play because of PvE. Just stop whining already. Stop blaming. When this game gets funded and it will. Those that do nothing but bash now will end up buying a copy, playing it and pretending they backed it all along. If your one of the ones that will not buy it, great cause the community doesn't need you anyways. For all those that are backing CU, your the best of the best. You don't live in the past and want to move this game into the future where it truely belongs. For all you who never played a decent PvP game before don't judge what you never experienced. 
  Carty

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4/23/13 7:00:35 PM#74
I think too many people are getting stuck on terms that have different meaning in this context than they expect.  UO had "no PvE" in the WoW sense -- no running around to people with marks over their heads to run errands for coin.  However, there was a ton of stuff to do to gather resources and lots to explore.  Character development still happened and is still intended to happen in CU -- just not by killing 12 critters or delivering a package to NPC #7.  The point of CU is that there is a ton of stuff to do outside of the penultimate RvR battle to prepare you character, siege resources and defenses, traps, etc.  And the fact that folks are running around killing critters for leather, mining ore or doing whatever else to gather wood and other resources means that the world is filled with "sheep" -- targets of opportunity.  The reason why GW2 combat is flat is that it is essentially capture the flag instanced combat on a bigger map.  There are the teams killing each other...and nothing more.  What made UO and DAOC cool was that RvR included smaller encounters among and around resource gathering, and add the town/defence building aspects, there will be lot of reasons to have combat.  Your PvE experience occurs within the RvR enabled space, which enriches both experiences. 
  jerlot65

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7/09/13 11:56:04 AM#75

Best thing Jacobs could do is just modernize the current DAOC system.  And by that I mean update the engine, networking, graphics, and interface.  Other than that, dont touch anything else.  Warhammer could have done this but it decided to change the way RvR is fought and of course go to a two realm fight.

Sure DAOC had its problems.  The worst two was class balance and of course the increase focus on PvE which just tore away from the real game which was suppose to be RvR.

 

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