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Defiance 

General Discussion  » With the series premire of the show is it going to bring in more players for the game?

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  aligada87

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4/15/13 10:13:51 PM#21
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by aligada87
gotta admit, the show wasn't that bad. now i'm wondering if defiance city will be released in the actual game. who thinks so?

I hope so. I also hope it has each of the cool places that are in the city in the show.

if they do this there is no doubt that it will build the social economy of defiance. atm the only way to see any social life in defiance imo is through co ops and that's not good. but if they have cities like these in the actual game, it would give people somewhere to chill and hang out, who knows maybe even duel. or better yet that battle arena where you can make fast cash lol. BOXING

  Bossalinie

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4/15/13 10:15:43 PM#22
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Bossalinie
After seeing the nature of Defiance city...the game kind of makes me sad for the lack of, or rather absense of, none combat potential.

what do you mean?

It's kind of hard to explain without sounding like a sandbox fan. It's a good game...I guess, just like the show, there's more to Defiance than combat.

  Ryowulf

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4/15/13 10:16:29 PM#23
I think it will bring in more causal players, but I don't know how long they will stay.
  VooDoo_Papa

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4/15/13 10:18:36 PM#24

I watched the first hour of it but DVR'd it so Im gonna rewatch it tomorrow, hopefully with a different impression

because my initial impression was that it sucked, bad. I dont see the series bringing in any gamers, mostly because I dont see syfy keeping this airing too long.

the writing wasnt too bad, but the special effects were terrible and the makeup was pretty bad also. I guess if you're used to effects and makeup circa Far Scape, you may not think its too bad..

  BrownAle

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4/15/13 10:48:39 PM#25

Funny the worst review posts of the show are here, and they arent just kinda bad, apparently it was the worst show ever made.  On this site too..shocking i know...so predictible.

Most of the other sites where people are talking about the show had almost universal positive feedback, even more so on the official forums. Dont expect this type of show and game to be everyones preference though.

The post show live stream though...lol...not so hot feedback on that.  Nice gesture by Trion though.

 

So now trion needs some more content ASAP to catch up to the show, give us the city of Defiance to mull about ect.

 

Oh and lol at the main character screwing over the players in game, i liked that touch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

  DMKano

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4/15/13 10:54:45 PM#26

Its a mutual benefit, the show will bring some new players to the game, and the game will bring new audience to the show.

I LOVED the show. Way better than my expectations, its miles better than Revolution for example and many prime time shows.

  Grinnz

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Joined: 8/24/10
Posts: 264

I just ate your cat!

4/15/13 10:56:22 PM#27
Like the show, had much fun with the game beta....Defiance is a winner so far!

  toddze

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I am not a hater, I call it like I see it.

4/15/13 11:00:46 PM#28

I missed the show, I hope it does bring more players to the game, because more importantly if it does that then maybe we could see some nice content updates.

but as for the game, other than some serious bugs it is fun, from an Online game standpoint.  I do not consider this an MMORPG, by any stretch of the imagination. if the only thing that an MMORPG requires now is just multiple players online then sure this is an MMORPG, along with any other online game where you may see a few people online. 

Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI

  Burntvet

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4/15/13 11:02:53 PM#29
People should not evoke BSG too much... while the show was good for the first season and a bit, the browser based MMO sucked. While Defiance is much better comparatively as a game, we will see what the show turns out to be: good or an overly CGI'd crapfest.
  lordtwisted

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4/15/13 11:11:21 PM#30
Originally posted by VooDoo_Papa

I watched the first hour of it but DVR'd it so Im gonna rewatch it tomorrow, hopefully with a different impression

because my initial impression was that it sucked, bad. I dont see the series bringing in any gamers, mostly because I dont see syfy keeping this airing too long.

the writing wasnt too bad, but the special effects were terrible and the makeup was pretty bad also. I guess if you're used to effects and makeup circa Far Scape, you may not think its too bad..

Looking at your post history you are obviously an unhappy individual, your post jump from one game forums to another, I counted 6 games I think on just the first page of your recent post and absolutly not one single positive comment anywhere. 

 I for the life of me can not imagine how you can find the make up in that show bad. I watched the video of them doing the make up, and I have seen pretty much each and every piece put together and it still did not take away from the show.

Not so nice guy!

  User Deleted
4/15/13 11:15:51 PM#31

I watched a few streams on twitch.tv for a little bit...

kinda just looks like a crappier version of planetside 2

  aRtFuLThinG

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4/15/13 11:17:57 PM#32
Originally posted by Burntvet
While Defiance is much better comparatively as a game, we will see what the show turns out to be: good or an overly CGI'd crapfest.

 The show is not overally CGI - because obviously this is a post-apoc sci-fi series not a space one like Babylon 5 or something. It is kinda similar to Firefly (with the similar wild west post-apoc feel).

Thats said I personally don't feel the show will bring much of the mature crowd to the game obviously, because of the fact that online games are time consuming and not a lot of adults who have time to watch shows will have time to play games.

Watching shows is easy - you can even watch them in the toilet via mobile. Online games however requires players to be in front of tv/PC to play it. With the fact that there are so many good shows currently showing this year (Game of Thrones, Vikings, Hannibal, etc) I don't the think a lot of the TV crowd who watched Defiance will translate to playing the game.

I believe it is rather the other way around (the game will make the show more popular/known).

  lordtwisted

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4/16/13 1:49:46 AM#33
Originally posted by itsbigmike

I watched a few streams on twitch.tv for a little bit...

kinda just looks like a crappier version of planetside 2

 WTF are you talking about? That was probablly one of the worse comparisons I have seen to date...Defiance is nothing like Planetside 2. 

 Planetside 2 is nothing but a gankfest, no story, no PvE, just jump in and shoot people. Half the people on there don't even know if they are shooting their own team mates or the enemy. 

 

Not so nice guy!

  lordtwisted

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4/16/13 1:59:09 AM#34
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG
Originally posted by Burntvet
While Defiance is much better comparatively as a game, we will see what the show turns out to be: good or an overly CGI'd crapfest.

 The show is not overally CGI - because obviously this is a post-apoc sci-fi series not a space one like Babylon 5 or something. It is kinda similar to Firefly (with the similar wild west post-apoc feel).

Thats said I personally don't feel the show will bring much of the mature crowd to the game obviously, because of the fact that online games are time consuming and not a lot of adults who have time to watch shows will have time to play games.

Watching shows is easy - you can even watch them in the toilet via mobile. Online games however requires players to be in front of tv/PC to play it. With the fact that there are so many good shows currently showing this year (Game of Thrones, Vikings, Hannibal, etc) I don't the think a lot of the TV crowd who watched Defiance will translate to playing the game.

I believe it is rather the other way around (the game will make the show more popular/known).

You are wrong about the "Mature" crowd. I am 40, have a part time job, go to school full time, Married and two kids, plus a few other hobbies besides video games. 

 And yes, while on average I will reach the teen levels in an MMO in the time that most of the "younger" crowd will be at max level, it's because of this that I no longer care about the stupid race to level that we all seem to be inclined to do at the release of a new game. 

 In fact when I go into a co-op mission I am typically surprised to see I am usually the second highest "level" in the group. Won't last for long pretty soon even the noobs will pass me. 

 This is something that this game offers the "mature" crowd that most games online games don't. I could be level 100 and still group with level 5000 players, and while they most likely have the perks and equipment to out damage me in co-ops I will still be able to hold my own and put out some damage. 

 In fact I was just in an arkfall where I was second in damage and looking at some of the people in the top 10, I was actually lower level than a lot of them.  While the first place person was about 200 levels ahead of me and only did about 15k more damage. 

 Even casual players will enjoy this game, you can't really get left behind. You won't get left out of "raids" because you didn't power level to max and get all the uber gear.

Not so nice guy!

  sancher36

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4/16/13 3:19:27 AM#35
When they are chasing the guy I noticed the cgi wasn't all that great for a little few seconds
  Purutzil

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4/16/13 3:24:34 AM#36
Yes... its actually a pretty easy bet it will. If your meaning a large scale boost, then eh... I think it will get a good amount of extra people involved without too much trouble on that end, yes. 
  sassoonss

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4/16/13 3:32:29 AM#37

 


This was a solo project. All computer animation and design was created by Kaleb Lechowski during the first year of his studies.

If this student can make such awesome sci fi footage from his computer at home i expected Trion with reasonable budget to do much more.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQuGpW0NuW8

 

choose 720 HD version

 

  bestever

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4/16/13 3:47:50 AM#38
Originally posted by toddze

I missed the show, I hope it does bring more players to the game, because more importantly if it does that then maybe we could see some nice content updates.

but as for the game, other than some serious bugs it is fun, from an Online game standpoint.  I do not consider this an MMORPG, by any stretch of the imagination. if the only thing that an MMORPG requires now is just multiple players online then sure this is an MMORPG, along with any other online game where you may see a few people online. 

You're right its not a MMORPG its a MMOTPS and its a MMO by definition (massively multiplayer online game) so you shouldn't treat it as a MMORPG :). 

The show was pretty good and I see them both helping each other out quite a bit. The game will bring people to the show and the show will bring people to the game so win win.

I can see how the game can grow and trion can make it happen. I'm  excited to take this journey with them and see where defiance goes. 

  fallenlords

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4/16/13 4:31:18 AM#39

I enjoyed the show more because of the game, likewise I think I will now enjoy the game more because of the show. 

  GrayGhost79

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4/16/13 1:22:08 PM#40
Originally posted by sassoonss

 


This was a solo project. All computer animation and design was created by Kaleb Lechowski during the first year of his studies.

If this student can make such awesome sci fi footage from his computer at home i expected Trion with reasonable budget to do much more.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQuGpW0NuW8

 

choose 720 HD version

 

"- It took an intense seven months: Two months on story before I even started production; two months alien character (especially rigging); maybe two and a half months for animation; And a lot of other stuff all the time."

7 months for a 6min clip. Now imagine that x20. It would have taken him over 11 years to make the pilot episode of Defiance. Lets say 5 years for each additional episode. In 66 years he could have made the first season of Defiance. 

First off, it isn't Trion doing the show. Syfy is and secondly they are doing filming on 13+ episodes a year. That was also pure CGI, its not as easy to do live action with CGI as it is to do pure live action or pure CGI. 

As a modeler and animator I can appreciate what the kid did but the reality is the above. I know its easy for someone on the outside looking in to go "Hey man, this crap is easy you should be able to bang it out in 10 minutes" but I advise you to refrain from doing so until you know what is required. 

 

Also as far as "All computer animation and design was created by Kaleb Lechowski during the first year of his studies." hes been modeling and animating since he was twleve. He had about 10 years of experience prior to this project lol. 

 

I know there are a lot of 3D artists out there that can make this look easy... but trust me it takes years and years to get to that point and after that it can take an excessive amount of time to complete a project especially solo. Render times alone can make things take forever lol. 

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