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  rawfox

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4/15/13 7:25:39 AM#41

I think it is simple not fair to bring stuff outside of an existand NDA, a NON disclosure agreement.

So there was some fool breaking the NDA and complaining about whatever.

That only, to "save" the community from possible POS while that is - what we all know - a matter of taste.

 

 

  Betaguy

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4/15/13 7:30:43 AM#42
Originally posted by rawfox

I think it is simple not fair to bring stuff outside of an existand NDA, a NON disclosure agreement.

So there was some fool breaking the NDA and complaining about whatever.

That only, to "save" the community from possible POS while that is - what we all know - a matter of taste.

 

 

 Character creation looked phenom

Skills and abilities looked vast

Jumping, movement, responsiveness was very fluid and organic

No invisable walls, could roam wherever

Graphics looked very good

Dungeon/city looked and felt like a dungeon/city does in TES

Not sure what they are sad about, looks to be shaping up nicely imo, I am excited. I want to play this bad.

 

  Galadourn

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4/15/13 7:32:14 AM#43
Originally posted by GroovyFlower
Originally posted by Galadourn
I'm surprised noone mentioned one glaring missing feature; Radiant AI. The NPC are just standing there. There is no ES series with static NPCs.

Hello THEMEPARK hello WAKE UP waxmuseum mmo WAXMUSEUM what you expect hehe.

A brilliant sandbox ala morrowind/skyrim in mmo, never gonne happen.

well, it could happen but it would take a truly bold company with innovative ideas, not a newly-founded one, jugling on a huge budget that's anxious to get a share of the pie with a "me too" WoW 1.5 clone.

Unfortunately, that's all we're getting, WoW 1.5.

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  azzamasin

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4/15/13 9:44:26 AM#44
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by rawfox

I think it is simple not fair to bring stuff outside of an existand NDA, a NON disclosure agreement.

So there was some fool breaking the NDA and complaining about whatever.

That only, to "save" the community from possible POS while that is - what we all know - a matter of taste.

 

 

 Character creation looked phenom

Skills and abilities looked vast

Jumping, movement, responsiveness was very fluid and organic

No invisable walls, could roam wherever

Graphics looked very good

Dungeon/city looked and felt like a dungeon/city does in TES

Not sure what they are sad about, looks to be shaping up nicely imo, I am excited. I want to play this bad.

 

You and me both brother, you and me both.

 

While I personally had no issues with the game in the vid it was obvious the loser did everything within his power to make the game appear worse then it was.

 

Another thing that no one is bothering to bring up and I havnt heard one response on, the locale this video is shot in leaves alot to be desired from an aesthetic POV since this areas is a Desert.  Very hard to spruce up a desert and make it look alive.  Just wait till you see Vids coming from areas such as Black Marsh, Skyrim, Elsweyr and Morrowind.  I think the tune of alot of people will change once they see areas commonly assosiated with TES game.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  arbacus

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4/15/13 9:44:53 AM#45
480p(bad quality) stream with bad bit rate best you can hope for out of this video is a snapshot of what the game looks like on lowest settings in bad 480p quality but only when hes standing still its worse than that when hes moving

  azzamasin

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We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

4/15/13 9:45:26 AM#46
Originally posted by Galadourn
Originally posted by GroovyFlower
Originally posted by Galadourn
I'm surprised noone mentioned one glaring missing feature; Radiant AI. The NPC are just standing there. There is no ES series with static NPCs.

Hello THEMEPARK hello WAKE UP waxmuseum mmo WAXMUSEUM what you expect hehe.

A brilliant sandbox ala morrowind/skyrim in mmo, never gonne happen.

well, it could happen but it would take a truly bold company with innovative ideas, not a newly-founded one, jugling on a huge budget that's anxious to get a share of the pie with a "me too" WoW 1.5 clone.

Unfortunately, that's all we're getting, WoW 1.5.

What features does ESO use that copy WoW?  Cause I sure as **** don't see it.  In fact games like Wildstar and ArcheAge have way more in common with WoW then ESO ever will.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Caliburn101

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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein

4/15/13 9:56:42 AM#47

The state of the graphics on this are irrelevant - it has been translated into another format at 'whatever' resolution and bears little relation to still screenshots - which should represent the look of top of the range machines running the game.

UI beta graphic presets are unrepresentative until such time as you are running a graphics stress test.

One wouldn't run such a test at an Expo giving people 20 mins each - crashes would piss everyone off and defeat the object...

The animations however were possibly more representative - so I hope that aspect will be better at release - they were largely wooden and unrealistic.

Lastly, no-one can judge the state of gameplay from a PvE perspective (quest, combat etc.) with 20 minutes of gameplay in a beta where around 10% of your alocated time is spent making the character sleep...

Add beta, to starter area, to what appeared to be a confused and directionless player and we get an largely unrepresentative segment of video from which few conclusions (even interim conclusions) can be drawn.

No point being upset or delighted by this - it is extremely unlikely to significantly resemble the shipped product.

  Silverune

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4/15/13 10:03:32 AM#48
Looked terrible..They have a long way to go before release. Not just in terms of graphics that can be fixed but the combat looked awful, the quests dull. To me it looked liked a bad korean import of AOC.
  Sovrath

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4/15/13 10:21:49 AM#49
Originally posted by Lobotomist

I am preplexed with amount of whining over the leaked video.

"The game looks terrible!" ... fanboys leaving.

 

But I wonder, honestly : What did you expect ?


 

 

 

I think it's just players who live to be hysterical.

The game actually does look better than what was shown on that video. Not leagues better. it doesn't look like skyrim. It can't look like a first person game because it's a large scale battle game.

The combat, whether in the end someone likes it or not,  was not well represented as all the player did was left click. Didn't use skills, didn't use power attacks, etc.

Also he was level 1.

Other than that, the game is what they said it was. An mmo version of Elder Scrolls.

Players need to stop dipping into their fantasies to hype up these games and start taking things at face value.

 

  azzamasin

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4/15/13 10:31:33 AM#50
Originally posted by Silverune
Looked terrible..They have a long way to go before release. Not just in terms of graphics that can be fixed but the combat looked awful, the quests dull. To me it looked liked a bad korean import of AOC.

While I agree they have a ways to go before release this video is not indicitive of actual gameplay.  The guy didn't even complete a single quest let alone give you an ideal on what style of questing the game utilyzes.  The combat looked bad because the guy was bad.....well thats actually giving bad a bad name.  This guy was an utter fool when it came to combat, but then again I suspect he intentionallly played that way to prove an agenda.  Backpeddling, blocking when at 1% health, no strafing, and less we forget he is level, 1 with only a staff.  I would advise anyone to not look at level 1 combat as indicitive of future gameplay.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Akerbeltz

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4/15/13 10:33:33 AM#51

Well, I expected a casual, combat-centric, story-driven, online cooperative arcade with a couple of RP features, a not-too complex crafting minigame and a huge combat-centric PvP battleground.

 

I thought mine were not exaggerated expectations, as every mainstream MMO (allow me to omit the RPG part from the acronym as it is not relevant any more) has been doing the same since BC-WoW - and failing accordingly, as we all know.

 

But that's not the point. The question is that if you have opted for a game model that, in its essence, is not precisely complex or substancial, it's unacceptable that the eye-candy, immediate factors (such as animations, graphics, voice overs, combat mechanics and so on) are average at best, as the leaked video shows - and don't be naive and remember MMORPG history: this is a beta, significant changes are not going to happen.

 

Another point is that the market is currently overflowed with MMOs that offer the very same model that Zenimax  is proposing, so it rather makies sense that Zenimax would have walked the extra mile to reinforce the aforementioned areas.

 

Besides the market saturation of this mmo model, it's perfectly ok to design a fun ride-in-the-park game that you can play casually alongside your wife and children. Perfectly ok as I say, but do it in quality fashion for the love of god....

 

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  Snowdon_Cloudripper

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4/15/13 12:53:42 PM#52
It did look really bad. I was hopeing for more but it is what it is. This and Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn are on my MMO plate and from watching the leak video i think im going to pass on ESO . I will still test it if selected to . But man that was unexpected

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  baphamet

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4/15/13 1:10:50 PM#53


Originally posted by Galadourn

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by pmnx

Originally posted by Lobotomist But I wonder, honestly : What did you expect ?
I expected a AAA mmorpg developped during 5 years by Mat Firror.
And for one vote to the other side as well, I personally expected an Elder Scrolls game, only this time Online (like the name stated) with fellow Elder Scrolls fans :) So when I first heard about the whole TES-skinned DAoC2 shenanigan I scraped it off from the "waiting" list... and only with the recent news picked up the line again, but I admit I'm still on the fence with TESO, since it still looks way too daoc-ish for my taste.
Just out of curiosity, but what exactly are you seeing (other than the 3 factions) that makes the game look like a DAoC clone? The only part of the game that we know of that shares commonality w/ DAoC is the faction PvP, of which we haven't seen anything about it really. We just know it's supposed to exist.
lol; the arbitrary separation of Tamriel's races into 3 factions (really, why? I know ofc that you can twist the lore as you want to make it believable, but this looks like forced RvRvR to me), and the fact that each faction is restricted to its own PvE-leveling zone(s) with only one common zone to fight.

This is as DAoC as it gets.


these kind of posts are a cancer to these forums. no it is not as Daoc as you can get, its nothing like Daoc except for having 3 factions and similar style optional pvp.

you either need to get your facts straight and learn about this game before you post about it or stop trolling.

  aleos

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4/15/13 1:14:18 PM#54

it was kinda like going on a bilnd date.. Built up tension and eagerness only to get there and be like.. "This bitch is ugly." Even worse when you sit down shes totally uninteresting and has no personality...

 

But you do it anyway..

beacuse you're bored...

 

This genre blows.

  baphamet

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4/15/13 1:21:06 PM#55


Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by aesperus Just out of curiosity, but what exactly are you seeing (other than the 3 factions) that makes the game look like a DAoC clone? The only part of the game that we know of that shares commonality w/ DAoC is the faction PvP, of which we haven't seen anything about it really. We just know it's supposed to exist.
That, exactly :)

Or a bit more detailed, as they said numerous times the whole game was built around 3faction pvp / avava, and they even dedicated a big chunk of the area only for pvp. Does any part of that sounds like Elder Scrolls?



no they did not design the entire game around 3 faction pvp, it is segregated to one area.

the factions are the only thing that effect the pve aspect of the game.

tell me, what about the actual pve and mechanics of the game remind you of Daoc? you do realize Daoc had pve, right?

  JimmyYO

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4/15/13 1:24:47 PM#56
Anyone that thinks TESO is going to look bad at launch has never played an Elder Scroll game or is seriously deillusional. if anything the game will end up looking too good, sandbagging everyone with middle end systems.
  baphamet

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4/15/13 1:29:55 PM#57


Originally posted by JimmyYO
Anyone that thinks TESO is going to look bad at launch has never played an Elder Scroll game or is seriously deillusional. if anything the game will end up looking too good, sandbagging everyone with middle end systems.

of course they think it will look exactly like that video along with the combat. lol


  Galadourn

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4/15/13 1:30:42 PM#58
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Galadourn

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by pmnx

Originally posted by Lobotomist But I wonder, honestly : What did you expect ?
I expected a AAA mmorpg developped during 5 years by Mat Firror.
And for one vote to the other side as well, I personally expected an Elder Scrolls game, only this time Online (like the name stated) with fellow Elder Scrolls fans :) So when I first heard about the whole TES-skinned DAoC2 shenanigan I scraped it off from the "waiting" list... and only with the recent news picked up the line again, but I admit I'm still on the fence with TESO, since it still looks way too daoc-ish for my taste.
Just out of curiosity, but what exactly are you seeing (other than the 3 factions) that makes the game look like a DAoC clone? The only part of the game that we know of that shares commonality w/ DAoC is the faction PvP, of which we haven't seen anything about it really. We just know it's supposed to exist.
lol; the arbitrary separation of Tamriel's races into 3 factions (really, why? I know ofc that you can twist the lore as you want to make it believable, but this looks like forced RvRvR to me), and the fact that each faction is restricted to its own PvE-leveling zone(s) with only one common zone to fight.

 

This is as DAoC as it gets.


 

these kind of posts are a cancer to these forums. no it is not as Daoc as you can get, its nothing like Daoc except for having 3 factions and similar style optional pvp.

you either need to get your facts straight and learn about this game before you post about it or stop trolling.

why are you so upset? I presented some arguments as to why I believe ZOS wants  to make a DAoC clone - and if you read the interviews you'll see that Matt's participation in Mythic is highlighted as proof of competence for the game's design. 

What are your arguments against ESO being a DAoc clone?

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  JimmyYO

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4/15/13 1:40:40 PM#59
Why would being a DAoC clone be a bad thing anyways. Almost every game copies WoW and soon GW2. A DAoC clone would be a happy addition to the current market. But no, TESO will be nothing like DAoC rofl.
  Galadourn

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4/15/13 1:42:51 PM#60
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Why would being a DAoC clone be a bad thing anyways. Almost every game copies WoW and soon GW2. A DAoC clone would be a happy addition to the current market. But no, TESO will be nothing like DAoC rofl.

it's not a bad thing, but it's also not ES. The philosophy behind tri-realm combat is focused on realm pride, forcing collaboration between a faction's players, whereas ES is more about freedom and exploring your options in whatever path you may choose.

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