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  jmlane223

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4/14/13 9:36:27 AM#21
The repopulation looks very good, and is for sure not vaporware. Unfortunately not willing to dish out $100 for beta
  nariusseldon

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4/14/13 9:50:52 AM#22
Originally posted by bigck813
 you 2 damn negative about things how about having an open mind to different types of mmos

The dude is asking for money when there is nothing to play. I have an open minded. Show me a demo, reviews, and i will make up my own mind.

There is nothing to be open minded about yet.

  Quirhid

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4/14/13 9:52:05 AM#23
The video certainly echoes the same sort of paranoid, bitter nonsense I read daily on these forums. Can't say its a healthy attitude for anyone - particularly for a developer. Count me out.

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  Jonoku

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4/14/13 9:56:30 AM#24
Its FFA so I'm slowly turning away from it to look for anymore info about it. I prefer standard 2 faction battles. At least faction battles at all.

Looking at: The Repopulation
Preordering: None
Playing: Random Games

  Kyleran

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4/14/13 10:19:52 AM#25
Originally posted by Onigod
Originally posted by syntax42

This post sounds too much like advertising.

 

Just looking at their planned features, I would say this game is not going to succeed.  They are attempting to do some things which are technically beyond anything else attempted in MMOs.

 

Also, FFA PvP brings out the worst types of people:  those who only enjoy ruining other people's fun.

[mod edit]

Perhaps, but titles such as SWG (and to a lessor extent EVE) prove your point incorrect.

In fact, sandboxes probably thrive a whole lot better when there is a means for players to control their risk and limits are put on players by the game itself to control their behavior.

There's a good reason why we can't have nice things......

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  Doogiehowser

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4/14/13 10:23:29 AM#26
Savior of sandbox MMO genre? that is one tall and arrogant claim sir.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

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  Rayshe

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4/14/13 10:28:30 AM#27
Im personally waiting on Black Desert. It looks more interesting to me.

Because i can.
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  AlBQuirky

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4/14/13 10:28:53 AM#28


Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by bigck813
 you 2 damn negative about things how about having an open mind to different types of mmos

The dude is asking for money when there is nothing to play. I have an open minded. Show me a demo, reviews, and i will make up my own mind.

There is nothing to be open minded about yet.



Are there many kickstarter/indiegogo games that DO have playable demos? I really do not know as I do not follow those sites. I was under the impression that devs used these sites in order to create a game.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  Aerowyn

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4/14/13 10:31:11 AM#29
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by bigck813
 you 2 damn negative about things how about having an open mind to different types of mmos


The dude is asking for money when there is nothing to play. I have an open minded. Show me a demo, reviews, and i will make up my own mind.

 

There is nothing to be open minded about yet.



Are there many kickstarter/indiegogo games that DO have playable demos? I really do not know as I do not follow those sites. I was under the impression that devs used these sites in order to create a game.

 

pretty much.. he actually has more footage on the game than most projects asking for money have

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  nariusseldon

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4/14/13 12:36:04 PM#30
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by bigck813
 you 2 damn negative about things how about having an open mind to different types of mmos


The dude is asking for money when there is nothing to play. I have an open minded. Show me a demo, reviews, and i will make up my own mind.

 

There is nothing to be open minded about yet.



Are there many kickstarter/indiegogo games that DO have playable demos? I really do not know as I do not follow those sites. I was under the impression that devs used these sites in order to create a game.

 

Probably not. Some video are not demos.

  Dreamo84

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I actually still like MMORPGs

4/14/13 12:37:55 PM#31
I thought this was gonna be about Jason Appleton...

  User Deleted
4/14/13 4:01:22 PM#32

Theres actually several savior sandbox games on the horizon.

This is a game that failed in the past, and i think if launched would be a really dated game...has about as much chance as being that game than MO or darkfall..which equally have about as close to a zero percent chance of ever having more than 10k subs.  Its interesting sounding.  Though i dislike their permadeath.  Its not a cool or unique permadeath its more like you get 100 lives and less if your a criminal...though im not 100% im sure i got some detail wrong on their system.

 

In the end this will not be the savior sandbox.  Theres quite a few on the horizion which do have potential, but i dont think a sandbox will ever get over 400k subs and the only reason that number is so high is because of eve, a game where it makes more sense to stay subbed while not plaything than to cancel the subscription, which inflates the sub base massively.

  Cephus404

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4/14/13 4:27:30 PM#33
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

No thanks. Free for all PvP is not my cup of tea. Too bad "the sandbox savior" includes this feature.

Yup, that killed any interest I might have had in it entirely.  It's one game I'm not even going to try.  I hate PvP.

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  User Deleted
4/14/13 4:40:47 PM#34
Originally posted by BrownAle

In the end this will not be the savior sandbox.  Theres quite a few on the horizion which do have potential, but i dont think a sandbox will ever get over 400k subs and the only reason that number is so high is because of eve, a game where it makes more sense to stay subbed while not plaything than to cancel the subscription, which inflates the sub base massively.

Man if reality was that easy to define I'd have so much more fun pulling facts out of my <insert prefered word here> like you do. EVE-Online has not and never will retain subs because of the progression system but trying to explain that to someone who hasn't even played the game is like explaining the difference between green and red to a colour blind person.

  jpnz

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4/14/13 7:20:43 PM#35
If the so called 'savior' can't even get proper funding; that's not exactly a good thing to be.

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  waynejr2

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4/14/13 7:27:05 PM#36
Originally posted by Cephus404
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

No thanks. Free for all PvP is not my cup of tea. Too bad "the sandbox savior" includes this feature.

Yup, that killed any interest I might have had in it entirely.  It's one game I'm not even going to try.  I hate PvP.

 In that case, I don't want to even check out the video. 

  Ikonis

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4/14/13 7:32:05 PM#37
Watched about half the video before I got tired of the arrogant 'I am such a rebel' attitude of the developer.
  danwest58

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4/14/13 7:35:14 PM#38
Its going to be a Hardcore MMO so its going to be made for a small percentage of the mmo population.  Its not for me or any of my friends so why am I going to invest anything in a game that will not give me enjoyment.  This game will not save sandbox games, what will save sandbox games is getting away from the old school EVE and UO sandbox structure of open world PVP and FFA loot systems.  Not everyone likes PVP in MMOs and must casual PVE'er which is a large part of the MMO population will not play these old type of sandbox games.
  AlBQuirky

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4/14/13 10:21:47 PM#39

Looks like he made his goal with 8 days left.

Divergence.
Currently at 117% with $17,503 pledged of his $15,000 goal. I wish him luck :)

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Robokapp

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4/15/13 2:13:23 AM#40
Originally posted by Jonoku
Its FFA so I'm slowly turning away from it to look for anymore info about it. I prefer standard 2 faction battles. At least faction battles at all.

faction pvp is fundamentally flawed, sadly.

 

losing side loses players, making it ...the losing side further ...making it lose players further.

 

'the hoppers' make the format unstable.

 

 

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