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  Fugglier

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4/13/13 12:39:19 PM#21
Meh...............I did closed beta for quite some time, right up to launch. Something just feels off about the game. Not sure if clunky accurately describes it but thats the best I have right now. Waiting a while before buying the game to see what they do with it.

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  bestever

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4/13/13 2:47:05 PM#22
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by UnrealRpg
Originally posted by titanofdoom
Is this one worth getting?!
 

If you like Guild wars 2's pay model, Plantside 2's giant map, Borderlands gun play style. Then I would say yes. There is plenty of progression with fixes and updates everyday. There is a big patch coming out to fix ALOT.

The map in Defiance is no where comparable to PS2 in size. In my opinion in last 5 years or so Defiance is the MMO to release with smallest map and least amount of content. And that is what is hurting its ratings.

The map in Defiance is far from small. Using the cars and atv's might make it seem small but its not. Start at the top of the map and run to San Francisco, then tell me its small. We're lucky they gave us cars and atv's or it would be a long long walk and you know it.

The content is fine, I havn't even finished the main story and have 22+ hours in and have done zero side quest. Just because you burnt through the content doesn't mean it has a lack of content. Its like most of you that post negative stuff about the game did this to make the game look bad when in fact its a great game that needs some work which it will get and only make the game better.

Its real simple if you don't like the game cool move on.

Oh and grats Bill

  Gravarg

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4/13/13 2:55:33 PM#23
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by UnrealRpg
Originally posted by titanofdoom
Is this one worth getting?!
 

If you like Guild wars 2's pay model, Plantside 2's giant map, Borderlands gun play style. Then I would say yes. There is plenty of progression with fixes and updates everyday. There is a big patch coming out to fix ALOT.

The map in Defiance is no where comparable to PS2 in size. In my opinion in last 5 years or so Defiance is the MMO to release with smallest map and least amount of content. And that is what is hurting its ratings.

The map in Defiance is far from small. Using the cars and atv's might make it seem small but its not. Start at the top of the map and run to San Francisco, then tell me its small. We're lucky they gave us cars and atv's or it would be a long long walk and you know it.

The content is fine, I havn't even finished the main story and have 22+ hours in and have done zero side quest. Just because you burnt through the content doesn't mean it has a lack of content. Its like most of you that post negative stuff about the game did this to make the game look bad when in fact its a great game that needs some work which it will get and only make the game better.

Its real simple if you don't like the game cool move on.

Oh and grats Bill

+1.

 

One of the aspects of this game that is truly MMO is progression.  MMOs always have been, always will be, about the journey, not the destination.  Most other game genres are all about the destination.  Complete this level, defeat this evil baddie.  I never understood why people call endgame stuff endgame...MMOs have no endgame, that's what makes them an MMO.  It's a non-stop story that takes you on an endless journey *queues The Neverending Story theme song*  Did I just date myself again? lol

  black_isle

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 234

4/13/13 3:30:52 PM#24

lol congrats for the tiny human mate.

 

As for the game, i haven't seen such a subpar, "meh" game in a long time. Wouldn't give this more than 5 bucks.

  desiriel

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Joined: 11/01/06
Posts: 99

4/13/13 4:16:54 PM#25

Still uncertain if I'll be giving Defiance a go but reviews such as this are quite helpful.

Above all congrats for your son. 

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5018

4/13/13 4:35:07 PM#26
Originally posted by bestever
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by UnrealRpg
Originally posted by titanofdoom
Is this one worth getting?!
 

If you like Guild wars 2's pay model, Plantside 2's giant map, Borderlands gun play style. Then I would say yes. There is plenty of progression with fixes and updates everyday. There is a big patch coming out to fix ALOT.

The map in Defiance is no where comparable to PS2 in size. In my opinion in last 5 years or so Defiance is the MMO to release with smallest map and least amount of content. And that is what is hurting its ratings.

The map in Defiance is far from small. Using the cars and atv's might make it seem small but its not. Start at the top of the map and run to San Francisco, then tell me its small. We're lucky they gave us cars and atv's or it would be a long long walk and you know it.

The content is fine, I havn't even finished the main story and have 22+ hours in and have done zero side quest. Just because you burnt through the content doesn't mean it has a lack of content. Its like most of you that post negative stuff about the game did this to make the game look bad when in fact its a great game that needs some work which it will get and only make the game better.

Its real simple if you don't like the game cool move on.

Oh and grats Bill

Oh please.

The only reason it takes long even with car, is because the is no road going in a straight line from top to San Fransisco.

The entire Defiance map would easily fit in 2 to 3 WoW zones or two EverQuest 2 maps like Antonica + Thundering Steppes. That's about it.

WoW at launch had two huge continents and Defiance barely covers a 10th of it.

Defiance doesn't even cover a 6th of what even EverQuest 2 had at launch.

Another game? LOTRO. Those zones are huge too and Defiance barely covers a 6th of that at launch either.

I have played all above games for extended periods of time. So I know what I am talking about.

You can take both fastest mount in EverQuest 2 or WoW (Speeds are comparible with Defiance's cars these days) and you'll trully see how tiny the entire map of Defiance trully is.

  ZoeMcCloskey

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4/13/13 4:47:59 PM#27
May still take a dive into this at some point, sounds interesting.  Waiting to see what the show is like too.

  nolic1

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Joined: 10/01/07
Posts: 673

4/13/13 4:55:57 PM#28

Great right up Bill you did right by it and also congratz on the baby you will be having fun now.

 

As for the game I have the same feeling about certain thing like the VIOP and the chat but the rest of the game is fantastic you are never with out nothing to do there is just to much besides missions and story there are DE's even tho there are only about 6 or 7 different ones there fun and then there are ARKFALLS which do get old after time but still fun to do. 

PVP is not bad but it need some fixes like the cloak shottys need to tone down and Shadow war's need a faster time on them. Instances are a blast and they need to add end boss rewards like one or two items rewards also maybe like a named item thats gold or purple  that randomly drops would be cool. I like that at ego 1200 I can go to any area of the map and still get owned by NPC's and hope they keep it this way. Other then that I like this as much as Guild Wars 2 and thats saying alot.


To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.

  darqart

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4/13/13 5:01:00 PM#29

i played in both the alpha and the beta. While i had fun i also came to the conclusion that the game was very limited in scope. when you compare it to games like the first "everquest" which is massive in scope it just does not hold up. as far as land mass goes, it is tiny in comparison to the original everquest, EQ2 or the more recent wow. as far as content goes i finished the main quest and the side quests in just a few weeks. To compare, it took me several years to level up in eq 1 and i never fully leveled a character to maximum.

I am not going to say buy it or not buy it. just be aware that the game in its current state is very limited. I decided that it was not eneough there for me to continue any further investment in it.

  Inktomi

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4/13/13 6:51:24 PM#30

Congratulations Bill!

Say goodbye to sleep.

Good Review in Progress or RIP. I have been playing Defiance from beta into launch, while it definately has its problems, it still has a good hook to it. I've run into plenty of little bugs here and there. Hopefully the new build/patch is going to solve most of them. I can only hope to say all.

While I dropped the initial 60 for the game at launch, I am a bit apprehensive at this stage to indulge for the season pass. Which is going to add five content packs as (far as I know) the show progresses. I hope the show has a successful launch, looks interesting for a sci-fi western.

I've been playing a bit of the PvP. I can say that I am more of a Defiance player for its PvE right now. There is another shooter I go for my PvP. I am going to post about that soon.

Grats again Bill!

Ink

  bcbully

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4/13/13 11:06:10 PM#31
Yep gratz man :)

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  User Deleted
4/13/13 11:25:16 PM#32

I'm having a lot of fun and I'm glad I picked this one up after all the negative reviews in the beginning. 

 

I agree that the gameplay is inherently fun. That's what makes it addictive for me. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm having a hell of a good time getting there.

  emota

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4/14/13 2:10:10 AM#33
It's a very good game
  BeerGut

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4/14/13 2:42:26 AM#34

Grats on the new baby Bill !

  BeerGut

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4/14/13 2:47:43 AM#35
There is one thing i would like to see them add and thats co-op story missions. It's a bummer when im in a group with my friends and i have to leave group/chat to complete the mission (Im playing it on PS3) it just feels like an odd mechanic.
  Doogiehowser

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4/14/13 5:15:53 AM#36
Originally posted by bestever

The map in Defiance is far from small. Using the cars and atv's might make it seem small but its not. Start at the top of the map and run to San Francisco, then tell me its small. We're lucky they gave us cars and atv's or it would be a long long walk and you know it.

The content is fine, I havn't even finished the main story and have 22+ hours in and have done zero side quest. Just because you burnt through the content doesn't mean it has a lack of content. Its like most of you that post negative stuff about the game did this to make the game look bad when in fact its a great game that needs some work which it will get and only make the game better.

Its real simple if you don't like the game cool move on.

Oh and grats Bill

The direct comparison was made to PS2 map that is why it was brought up that Defiance map is much smaller in comparison.

 

Have you played Fallen Earth? it is an Indie MMO and released with 3 times the world size of Defiance. That games also had dune buggies and fast cars. And yet it never felt small. So nope one does not need to run on foot because these maps were made in accordance to vehicles. I thought AAA MMOS were suppossed to do better than indie MMOS.

 

He never said anythng about burning through the content. That is what you assumed here. And by the way since when bringing up legitimate issues like small world size and lack of content is trying to make game look bad? are you telling me only you have the right to say 'game is great' in every post but opposite is not allowed?

I thought this forum was for discussion about negative and positive of games as long as you keep things civil.

Please stop telling others what to do and what not to do on open forums.

 
 
 

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  Carnicide

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Joined: 4/14/13
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4/14/13 6:46:14 AM#37
Okay after reading some post about the games "map" issues I have to sincerely disagree. What killed GW2 for me was the massive map. I mean sit back and think about it for a second, once the leveling crowd goes, so does the events and grouping. Since we are currently land locked due to said episodes and what not to be released. We're constantly grouping, completely MMO type of events, and having fun feeling that were part of something big. The only time I see more than 2 other players(outside of pvp, and dungeons) in games like GW2 is in a main city. Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to bash on GW2 I actually liked the game, but after I had to take a force break from it the leveling crowd was gone and it sucked trying to solo everything, and was completely boring. Trion to me, has always found some way to keep its community together and to keep that feeling alive. You know the one im talking about the "MMO" feeling. Just wish they made Rift's animations for spells more "flashy" lol. Anyways there's my 2 cents, take it how you will.
  EvilGeek

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4/14/13 7:49:19 AM#38
Grats Bill!


  orbitxo

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4/14/13 10:47:35 AM#39

well- i just finished the main story (not tv show mission) fighting the final encounter in SF - without going into spoilers.

 

I found it a little dissapointing on the devs behalph how they constructed the fight. maybe i was expecting the sharpness borderlands2 brought in their game with their bosses.

but in defiance i found it a little lazy and not very accurate for the player-it was like hey ur the player hes our boss he will be OP npthign u can do strategy wise he cant handle-oh and u have ego n he has ego but his is better!! <.<

as musch to say at that and not beign able to change weapons during so many opportunities presented in the fight...i started to think how gimped it really felt. less like an mmo and more like a arcade game fight from the 80's

 

that said- i love the game and i hope the boss fights to come get an improvement! and take tips from borderlands2 as this is a pure staple of the game.

 

n Bill  congrats on ur 'co-op player 'partner in training!

:)

 
  Dreamo84

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4/14/13 11:26:25 AM#40
Bill is going to always associate Defiance now with the birth of his son. His son is one of the Defiant Few.

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