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  tawess

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4/13/13 1:37:38 AM#21

I wonder what the green glob of hate will do once SW:ToR shut down and EA goes out of biz/shape up their game... What will be your next target of furey and impotent bile?

 

Anyway, sounds like a fun DLC but i'l still keep some hope for a bigger expansion down the road.

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  Sevenstar61

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4/13/13 2:17:35 AM#22
Originally posted by Hokie

Question for you Mike "Bee"-

Did they get the same voice actors back for the cut scenes?

Im looking forward to hearing my male Imps "James Bond sinister" voice again. Or was it like the rakghoul event where my character just stood quietly and listened?

Same voice actors. I was playing Agent today and I can confirm it's the same guy:) And the cutscenes are pretty extensive...


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  Methos12

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4/13/13 3:47:53 AM#23
Originally posted by Hokie

Question for you Mike "Bee"-

Did they get the same voice actors back for the cut scenes?

Im looking forward to hearing my male Imps "James Bond sinister" voice again. Or was it like the rakghoul event where my character just stood quietly and listened?

 

I'd like to know if it's once again Simon Templeman: The Game. He was everywhere in vanilla.

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  User Deleted
4/13/13 4:53:42 AM#24
Originally posted by Karteli

It's pretty much a paid-for patch, like you would get in other games.  Except EA doesn't see value in good quality, they see it with dollar signs .. everything dollar signs.

 

A normal SWTOR player even has to pay for a patch that Blizzard gives away for free.  Actually thats not entirely fair since EA was going to give Makeb away for free originally, but then the game tanked, and now they need to charge.

 

A good faith gesture might have been for EA to give Makeb away for free for the benefit of making a game beyond their imagination.  .. but all this large corporation sees is short term gains.

 

Star Wars fans lose in the end (again).

Well, they had few ways to go around it and my best scenario would be:

Free to subscribers 5-10$ for free players OR if they absolutely wanted to charge for it  make it available in Cartel Market at 1000-1500 points.

But naturally, they chose the worst way around it. SWTOR deosnt have F2P option any more.

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

4/13/13 5:37:03 AM#25
And don’t get me started on the use of the term ‘expansion’. These days, many MMO publishers are referring to your run-of-the-mill content additions as “free expansions” instead of game updates or patches. The term has really lost its meaning. It’s all DLC, folks.

I could not agree more. STO is releasing an expansion soon, and costs nothing. These free / cheap expansions will no doubt have a knock on effect for LOTRO and EQ2 and maybe other MMOs too.

STO is going great guns at the moment. It had Season 7 added at the end of 2012, which was like an expansion too, which brought in a new planet New Romulus and a loads of quests on it, much like RoTHC expansion with Makeb, and this year it is getting Season 8 and Season 9, PLUS the expansion Legacy of Romulus too, plus other updates too which included the Winter event, and a special event for its 3rd Anniversary which was done with the help of Denise Crosby, and other stuff

Considering people are mostly paying and paying to SWTOR, SWTOR is getting very little done to it, compared to STO, where you can play the game mostly for free. The only time you may feel a need to buy something is to compete at max level, but if you have managed to play the game by the time you are max level then you have more likely fallen in love with the game, and willing to spend some money on it., and keep spending money on it but only because you feel you want to, as opposed to feeling you have to like with SWTOR.

SWTOR is the better game than STO, but STO is just better value, and there is plenty being added to STO to keep you coming back for more. EA/BW need to step up and take notes from PW, and evevnSOE who recently reduced restrictions in EQ/EQ2. SWTOR is losing pace fast.

In STO, people are talking about how great STO is, but in SWTOR nowadays people talk about how bad SWTOR is and how good it could have been, and people are just waiting for Elder Scrolls Online and FF XIV ARR. Last year in SWTOR people were poking fun of WOW and its panda expansion, and how great SWTOR is, but things have changed a lot in the year.

 

  evot

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4/13/13 5:39:52 AM#26
its a DLC that should have goten for free..!
  jesteralways

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4/13/13 6:27:29 AM#27
if you compare the price of the dlc in DCUO and SWToR "digital expansion", you will see in dcuo subscribers don't have to pay for dlc and for non sub they cost only 9.99$, but in SWToR; this so called "digital expasion" is coming with nearly same(if not less) content as DCUO dlc but subscribers have to pay 9.99$ for it to play and it is also priced 19.99$ for non sub. so no this "digital expansion" is not on par with dcuo dlc at all. it is shameful to see a trash company like PWE is actually stepping up their game and doing better job than BW these days.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Coolit

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4/13/13 7:11:39 AM#28

I think very few games these days offer the content level you would expect when you hear the word "expansion" and that’s a shame as it's become little more than a marketing term used to make people think they are getting more than they really are. For me it was clear from the start that ROTHC is little more than a DLC pack and is priced accordingly. I’m interested to see a review of it and what people think after they hit 55.

  Segun777

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4/13/13 7:28:58 AM#29

Hello Mr. Bitton,

I wonder if MMORPG.com would institute a +1 feature where we could like a story. I know the comment section rapidly degrades in a big ball of whine often enough. I want to let the writers know stories that were enjoyable without being lost in the 'I hate this game' comment section. My two cents.

  Illyssia

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4/13/13 8:59:20 AM#30
Originally posted by SBFord


Keep in mind, I haven’t been able to dig deep enough into the expansion content just yet.

 

 

 

I think this must be a reviewer fail from Mike. How can you review a game that you aren't really interested in enough to play for say even an entire evening. I mean a first impression should be after, say, a weeks play of an mmo, with the full review coming after a significant amount of playing time. SWTOR is estimated in free-to-play form to have a million players, albeit with a range of active playtimes as one expects from F2P model mmos.

That all written, I, myself, find it hard to be enthusiastic about this expansion. It is more a DLC than a real-deal old school mmo expansion. Yes DLC-style expansions may be the way to go with F2P model mmos. It gives the game progression and generates revenues, but, it really isn't inter-galactic conflict between Republic and Sith on the epic Scale. Just Hutt gangster stuff. A pass for me as I wait for TESO and possibly XIV on console too, depending on my available play schedule.

  Agent_Joseph

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4/13/13 10:41:08 AM#31
Originally posted by hikaru77
Love the people with a lot of free time, talking about a game that they dont even play, and still they really believe that they know more about swtor that the people who is actually playing. 

it is just new trend,agreed, most of haters have no idea what they talking about

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  Thebigthrill

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4/13/13 12:39:10 PM#32
Pathetic they charge subs for such a small content update

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  Vorthanion

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4/13/13 1:04:19 PM#33
Originally posted by Drakephire
I hate these xpaks where my money essentially subsidizes raid play. They throw the solo and small group players a few bones and expect you to pony up your dollars to pay for the cadillac raid content that others will enjoy.

Yep, that's why I don't play raid focused games anymore.  Doesn't leave much to play, but then again, there's not much worth playing in the genre either.

  Instigator-Jones

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4/13/13 2:04:35 PM#34
I'm confused as to why they open it up on a Sunday and not Friday or Saturday. Give us the weekend to play and experience the new content. I wasn't able to purchase the expac for early entry, missing it by a couple of days, because if work. Feels weird to open it up on a Sunday, missing the Saturday play time (for all the weekenders that is).
  Vannor

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4/13/13 3:32:15 PM#35

You know, I've got just about every MMO (that's on the radar that matters) and every expansion except the latest LOTRO one and this.

Now, I think I was one of those guys who liked SWTOR a lot more than most.. but it still didn't cut the mustard. I don't think it was a disaster but I did think it was a bit pointless. But when someone like me, someone who owned MOP for a month before even trying it, someone who still has an unopened copy of AoC:RotGS, someone who just buys it ALL anyway... when someone like me doesn't even look twice at an expansion, you know they fucked up.

 
  MysteryB

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4/13/13 5:11:57 PM#36
This expansion sucks I just cancelled my swtor account, tons of people cheated to 55, I just got there and the gear looks terrible, lvl 50-55 gave me all of 1 new power that is OK at best and gear is useless in PvP now. Bioware was supposed to deliver a reason to keep playing, they gave me a reason to leave

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  DanitaKusor

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4/13/13 7:32:08 PM#37

Rise of the Hutt Cartel gives you,

Approx 30 hours of questing on Markab (15 hrs per faction) with fully voiced quests.

1 new operation

4 level 55 hard mode flashpoints

2 new side exploration thingies with Macrobinoculars and Seeker Droid

+ everything else that comes with patch 2.0 which is available to everyone even if they don't by the expansion.

Now judge for yourself if that is worth $10.

The Enlightened take things Lightly

  Instigator-Jones

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4/13/13 7:37:45 PM#38
Originally posted by DanitaKusor

Rise of the Hutt Cartel gives you,

Approx 30 hours of questing on Markab (15 hrs per faction) with fully voiced quests.

1 new operation

4 level 55 hard mode flashpoints

2 new side exploration thingies with Macrobinoculars and Seeker Droid

+ everything else that comes with patch 2.0 which is available to everyone even if they don't by the expansion.

Now judge for yourself if that is worth $10.

Don't forget the 'Holo-Hutt' (The Dr. Oggurobb Hutt Holostatue); so now you can say 'yes!' when someone asks:

"Is that a Hutt in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"

  DanitaKusor

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4/13/13 8:26:36 PM#39
Originally posted by Instigator-Jones

Don't forget the 'Holo-Hutt' (The Dr. Oggurobb Hutt Holostatue); so now you can say 'yes!' when someone asks:

"Is that a Hutt in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"

And as hutts are hermaphrodites it works for everyone!

The Enlightened take things Lightly

  severius

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4/14/13 12:44:25 AM#40
Originally posted by Purutzil
It does worry me being a 'small' expansion with a level cap raise, if its going to trivialize the old content while giving barely anything worth wild for players to 'advance' with. Could easily cut that 'end game' content down vastly if its going to make an expansion thats very small. Even if its at a cheap price,  it could end up tarnishing the game more then helping it if its leaving players with even less to do then before that feels 'worth wild'.

I agree.  btw, its worthwhile.  one word :)


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