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  DaSpack

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OP  4/10/13 10:49:15 AM#1

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

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  DaSpack

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OP  4/10/13 11:01:16 AM#2
The AoC Siege is 48 vs 48 btw.

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  MrSchnuffi

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4/11/13 4:32:23 AM#3

I'm not a GW2 fan (or a player anymore) but laying siege to (is this correct english?^^) a fortress in WvWvW-PvP was quite impressive. And since you can build your siege engine where you want and you have to manage supply GW2 has more depths to it too.

Edit:  the italic part was missing

  FromHell

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4/11/13 4:37:44 AM#4

The sieges in AoC are fantastic. A pity almost no one knows they exist, same with the awesome guild city building and decoration.

Many people think the whole game is just like Tortage, but it really opens up the more you progress afterwards.

AoC is my top favourite MMO since update 4.0, just got another 6 months sub.

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  Sevenwind

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4/11/13 7:47:19 AM#5
Originally posted by FromHell

AoC is my top favourite MMO since update 4.0, just got another 6 months sub.

It's my MMO of choice but I'm not giving them a multi month sub until they offer some sub deals. They better bring up some birthday sub offer or I'm sticking to the month to month. I can't believe it's taken them this long to offer something. They missed the STEAM players.

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  Sovrath

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4/11/13 7:54:26 AM#6
Originally posted by DaSpack

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

Lineage 2 sieges trounced AoC in terms of "massive".

  quseio

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4/11/13 7:55:54 AM#7
Originally posted by DaSpack

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

 yes it is old but everquest routinely has 54 players  + mobs on screeen and i dont mean scattered allover 

  Shadanwolf

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4/11/13 8:08:19 AM#8

AOC has been talking about a crafting overhaul for over 2 years....and its still not implemented.They have been dragged kicking and screaming since before launch to have a decent system...and they still haven't done it.(I bought the collectors edition btw)

Right now....Funcom's values and prioritys are not the same as mine.Faction fighting ?...none. Huge keep fights ?...not really.Take and control territory ? Nope.

  DaSpack

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OP  4/11/13 11:31:27 AM#9
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DaSpack

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

Lineage 2 sieges trounced AoC in terms of "massive".

Really? I have palyed Lineage 2. It's good, but in terms of massiveness I am not sure. Be aware of that when I say AoC is massive I mean not only the number of people or mobs. I mean the number of animations. Each character in AoC have something like 212 animation bones in their bodies, Also the effects are more elaborate with more particles than most other MMOs. Walls burning, catapults firing off rocks... etc. I mean there is more going on in a AoC siege in terms of movement, animations and events than any other MMO. It's no problem to stick 200 people into a playfield if they run around like stick figures and poke at eachother with a wooden sword... Lineage 2 was really nice though, and not like stick figures at all, but I think those characters are pretty fare behind AoC..??

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  DaSpack

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OP  4/11/13 11:39:50 AM#10
Originally posted by Shadanwolf

AOC has been talking about a crafting overhaul for over 2 years....and its still not implemented.They have been dragged kicking and screaming since before launch to have a decent system...and they still haven't done it.(I bought the collectors edition btw)

Right now....Funcom's values and prioritys are not the same as mine.Faction fighting ?...none. Huge keep fights ?...not really.Take and control territory ? Nope.

The crafting is happening though. I have heard they are changing the entire system and economy. Adding animations to crafting also. Reading comments from community leaders on the forums it also sounds like it's just around the corner and that it will be FANTASTIC :D. I think they will get the entire remake of that system out the door with the Age of Conan 5 year aniversary. 

can't wait.

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  DaSpack

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OP  4/11/13 12:01:23 PM#11

This one is also pretty hefty. Set the vid to 1080 HD. It's the guild Requim Nex in T4 Raid.. Awesome loot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SgdU4CrUk4

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  Sovrath

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4/11/13 12:11:17 PM#12
Originally posted by DaSpack
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by DaSpack

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

Lineage 2 sieges trounced AoC in terms of "massive".

Really? I have palyed Lineage 2. It's good, but in terms of massiveness I am not sure. Be aware of that when I say AoC is massive I mean not only the number of people or mobs. I mean the number of animations. Each character in AoC have something like 212 animation bones in their bodies, Also the effects are more elaborate with more particles than most other MMOs. Walls burning, catapults firing off rocks... etc. I mean there is more going on in a AoC siege in terms of movement, animations and events than any other MMO. It's no problem to stick 200 people into a playfield if they run around like stick figures and poke at eachother with a wooden sword... Lineage 2 was really nice though, and not like stick figures at all, but I think those characters are pretty fare behind AoC..??

well, I'm sure AoC has more animations but I've been in L2 sieges that not only were enormous but also included several siege golems, the defense of many siege flags (and in one case someone used a mass sleep that knocked out the defenders so that we could descend and take it out) and multiple things going on.

Not only did you have the people taking out the doors but you had the people engaging people on the walls, the back escape routes if applicable and small groups throughout the map attacking those who respawned at the cities.

You can also take down certain sections of wall in L2 castles (though I"m not clear if every castle had this) and there are traps that can be placed to hold off the attackers.

 

  DaSpack

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OP  4/12/13 8:59:27 AM#13
mkay Sovrath.... Lineage 2 is also good, but I think ech character alone in AoC have double the amount of animation bones.. as in the wrists can move in AoC, The arms can extend more realistically... etc.. It makes a hell more of load movementwise in an massive event. Just sayin... Are there any other good MMOs that can match these two?

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  Gravarg

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4/12/13 9:04:49 AM#14

Noone can hold a flame to DAoC sieges.  Back in the day you had 300+ Albs zerging, 200+ hibbies hugging, and 150+ Mids bashing all thier skulls in :)  I miss the days when relic keeps came under attack and everyone jumped into defend it...yay server crash HAHAHAHA

 

Edit: The only thing I didn't like about AoC sieges was that it wasn't spontaneous.  I liked it while it was happening though.   I loved ramming my mammoth into the enemies' walls :D

  Amegashie

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4/18/13 5:38:31 AM#15
DaoC, WAR, Lineage 2, GW2 all have ( or had in the case of DaoC ) infinitely more massive sieges. Defining massive as the amount of animations is grasping for straws - or a pretty good troll.
  Worrynot

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4/22/13 5:09:57 AM#16
Originally posted by DaSpack
mkay Sovrath.... Lineage 2 is also good, but I think ech character alone in AoC have double the amount of animation bones.. as in the wrists can move in AoC, The arms can extend more realistically... etc.. It makes a hell more of load movementwise in an massive event. Just sayin... Are there any other good MMOs that can match these two?

You sure got a hardon for animation bones. Not sure why you're using it in your argument, as it has virtually no impact on the actual gameplay.

In terms of massive? EVE and Planetside shits on both these games. But neither has the amazing amount of animation bones that AoC has so I guess they don't count.

  FromHell

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4/22/13 5:38:16 AM#17
Originally posted by Worrynot
Originally posted by DaSpack
mkay Sovrath.... Lineage 2 is also good, but I think ech character alone in AoC have double the amount of animation bones.. as in the wrists can move in AoC, The arms can extend more realistically... etc.. It makes a hell more of load movementwise in an massive event. Just sayin... Are there any other good MMOs that can match these two?

You sure got a hardon for animation bones. Not sure why you're using it in your argument, as it has virtually no impact on the actual gameplay.

In terms of massive? EVE and Planetside shits on both these games. But neither has the amazing amount of animation bones that AoC has so I guess they don't count.

same looking star systems with nothing to see but some planet surfaces, stations exteriors and asteroids doesn´t really compare ya know.

EvE is cool, but it´s only big because of empty space.

Planetside 2 is also a bad example, really bad, because AoC has easily 8-10 times the land mass of Planetside 2

The only bigger gameworld I know of is WOW, that "shits on both these games" if you want to put it that way

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  Loktofeit

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4/22/13 5:46:04 AM#18
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Worrynot
Originally posted by DaSpack
mkay Sovrath.... Lineage 2 is also good, but I think ech character alone in AoC have double the amount of animation bones.. as in the wrists can move in AoC, The arms can extend more realistically... etc.. It makes a hell more of load movementwise in an massive event. Just sayin... Are there any other good MMOs that can match these two?

You sure got a hardon for animation bones. Not sure why you're using it in your argument, as it has virtually no impact on the actual gameplay.

In terms of massive? EVE and Planetside shits on both these games. But neither has the amazing amount of animation bones that AoC has so I guess they don't count.

same looking star systems with nothing to see but some planet surfaces, stations exteriors and asteroids doesn´t really compare ya know.

EvE is cool, but it´s only big because of empty space.

Planetside 2 is also a bad example, really bad, because AoC has easily 8-10 times the land mass of Planetside 2

The only bigger gameworld I know of is WOW, that "shits on both these games" if you want to put it that way

So the criteria for most massive sieges is

- overall landmass

- number of particle effects

- character animation count

- actual number of people in the siege is not a factor

 

I would normally say EVE, L2 and Akia have massive sieges, but I can see we're not really going by any logical criteria so I'll go with what we have above:

By your standards, LOTRO's MonsterPlay, kicks AoC's sieges to the curb. More animations and particle effects, huge detailed terrain in the battle zone.

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  lilreap2k3

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4/22/13 5:53:34 AM#19

Normally I am not one to praise AV for anything since they epic failed with the first Darkfall and aren't looking very good with DFUW, but they did bring some pretty crazy sieges.

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4/22/13 5:56:01 AM#20
Originally posted by DaSpack

Check out defenders getting ripped a new one ;) on RAGE server. RAGE server is the least populated server in Age of Conan now. But even here sieges does now happen on regular basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq46HgJERgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40rQwJi_DZs

But moving to the topic, what is really the Age of Conan Siege in terms of massiveness compared to other MMOs. I can't really think of any other MMO that have so many animations and events running at the same time as in Age of Conan. Thoughts on that MMOers? If I wanted a game with more massive events than this, what should I test?

8 more people than alterac on each side :)

 

not too massive imo

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