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  jtcgs

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4/09/13 7:07:15 PM#61

Look, im sure by now most people on this site knows full well I dislike the very idea of this game since its based heavily on DaoC...but not even I think it will "fail".

And I dont think it will fail because of what Jacobs himself said his target goal is on this very site...in a reply to me. He stated he is targetting a fraction of the DaoC playerbase at its peak.

DaoC playerbase = 250k at its peak

So I would guess he is shooting for under 80k which many a crap game can do.

80k x $15 a month = 1.2 million per month

That is more than enough for a tiny start up to function and continue to push out content while trying to expand their playerbase. if he had half a brain he would do a multi-tier F2P/Sub setup in order to continue a flow of players coming in and trying to hook more. Otherwise, the game could stay with a low population while still being a "sucess" going by his original goal.

Aim low and you increase your chance of success.

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  Corinthian-X

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4/09/13 7:08:09 PM#62
Originally posted by znaiika
What make you think he has a team?

Its a pretty simple process to go to the website and see them. They each have short bios listed and most are industry vets that have multiple released titles under their belt. CSE already has one release to its credit as well.  If you want to critize the Kickstarter feel free, but making arguments like this when it can easily be discredited by a simple internet search is lame.

  Aerowyn

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4/09/13 7:09:01 PM#63
Originally posted by Tokken

Looks like this game has got potential. BUT no PvE? That's just not right. I would prefer to have other options as well as RvR. That's disappointing. IMO I think it's fail before the game even starts then....

i thought that way at first then i thought about how amazing say gw2 WvW would be if that was the whole game and they put 100% of their resources in WvW it honestly would be incredible i think.. i think there is room in the MMO world for a pure RvR PVP only game and what better dev to bring this to light than Mark Jacobs

there's going to be plenty of 3 faction MMOs in the future with PVE content like TESO 

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  znaiika

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4/09/13 10:03:43 PM#64
Originally posted by jtcgs

Look, im sure by now most people on this site knows full well I dislike the very idea of this game since its based heavily on DaoC...but not even I think it will "fail".

And I dont think it will fail because of what Jacobs himself said his target goal is on this very site...in a reply to me. He stated he is targetting a fraction of the DaoC playerbase at its peak.

DaoC playerbase = 250k at its peak

So I would guess he is shooting for under 80k which many a crap game can do.

80k x $15 a month = 1.2 million per month

That is more than enough for a tiny start up to function and continue to push out content while trying to expand their playerbase. if he had half a brain he would do a multi-tier F2P/Sub setup in order to continue a flow of players coming in and trying to hook more. Otherwise, the game could stay with a low population while still being a "sucess" going by his original goal.

Aim low and you increase your chance of success.

There are 6302 backers, where do you get the rest to fill 80k players?

I can't believe people throw 10k for game, that does not even have a solid ground.

Better if you give that money to poor, then you'd never feel riped-off, and you'd do more good.

Well, it's your money.

  Ziftylrhavic

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Joined: 3/15/13
Posts: 223

4/10/13 3:37:44 AM#65

Originally posted by znaiika

Originally posted by skyexile

The fact you think Mark Jacobs hasn't put money into this is retarded, you think those artists are just coming in for free to work on the game concepts? I'm pretty sure he's paying them. Also, if you think its a Doac clone your reading comprehension isn't very good and replying further to you would be utterly pointless. if thats what you think then you may as well call it a WoW clone because he said he wants smooth combat, like WoW...

What make you think he has a team?

All is presented? are scetches of an idea, that is all he has to sell, and people are fullish enough to buy it.

He know that DFUW is not what people expected, plus, ESO is on the horizon, this is the best time to sell his idea.

He stated, that he will listen to people wille making CU, this tell me that he actualy know how to get to your heads, fans.

I think this game will never see the light of day.

Does your money have security to return to you, if he abandon his project?

Just look at the KS front page video and you will see his team.

 

We are not buying an idea, we are backing it. We are saying this idea looks great, and we have enough garanties with the way MJ acts (not meeting them would destroy his career, he pushed away a lot of potential backers by being clear on his goals) to be pretty sure the game will turn out great.

 

Well, i admit i don't know what words DFUW stands for, be the difference between ESO and CU is there will be no PvE to mess up the PvP balance, and vice versa.

 

Well, he actually is listening to us, he answered a lot of the comments on KS. He may be getting to our heads, but that's because he is the only one even trying to give us what we want.

 

I think this game will see the day if it funds. There has been a lot of involvement from MJ, and we will be able to participate to it's building with the forums, the Internal Testing and Alpha/Beta, so i am pretty sure it will be a good game.

 

He will only abandon if KS doesn't fund, in which case our money didn't even go away.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Tokken

Looks like this game has got potential. BUT no PvE? That's just not right. I would prefer to have other options as well as RvR. That's disappointing. IMO I think it's fail before the game even starts then....

i thought that way at first then i thought about how amazing say gw2 WvW would be if that was the whole game and they put 100% of their resources in WvW it honestly would be incredible i think.. i think there is room in the MMO world for a pure RvR PVP only game and what better dev to bring this to light than Mark Jacobs

there's going to be plenty of 3 faction MMOs in the future with PVE content like TESO 

Where did you read there will be nothing to do but RvR? First, the crafter class will be made so it'll be fun to play full time and will be almost useless while fighting so you will just have to focus on surviving or fleeing. Second, MJ stated they were working on other things to do to take a break from RvR.

Originally posted by znaiika

Originally posted by jtcgs

Look, im sure by now most people on this site knows full well I dislike the very idea of this game since its based heavily on DaoC...but not even I think it will "fail".

And I dont think it will fail because of what Jacobs himself said his target goal is on this very site...in a reply to me. He stated he is targetting a fraction of the DaoC playerbase at its peak.

DaoC playerbase = 250k at its peak

So I would guess he is shooting for under 80k which many a crap game can do.

80k x $15 a month = 1.2 million per month

That is more than enough for a tiny start up to function and continue to push out content while trying to expand their playerbase. if he had half a brain he would do a multi-tier F2P/Sub setup in order to continue a flow of players coming in and trying to hook more. Otherwise, the game could stay with a low population while still being a "sucess" going by his original goal.

Aim low and you increase your chance of success.

There are 6302 backers, where do you get the rest to fill 80k players?

I can't believe people throw 10k for game, that does not even have a solid ground.

Better if you give that money to poor, then you'd never feel riped-off, and you'd do more good.

Well, it's your money.

Well, MJ actually gave a number : between 20 and 30k. Also, there are a lot of people who didn't hear about it, i myself heard it mentioned only once by pure chance before actually coming to this forum. Furthermore, a good part of the potential backers wait to see more to pledge, which i understand.

 

Well, there is the fact that you can throw that pie at MJ for bringing TOA to DAoC that will be extremely satisfying. And there are people out there that have enough money to give that much. And there are guilds that pledge all to the same account, meaning nobody from that guild actually spend that much.

 

Well, i wonder how many cinema film you watched and found bad, or any holidays that turned awfull, any sport match ticket maybe? Or any restaurant? It can happen with anything.

 

Well, if you want to do something for the poor, i give you a link down here, all you have to do is spreading the word about it and if it succeds your life will be much better, if it fails you didn't lose anything.

http://www.thevenusproject.com/en

 

Finally yes it is our money, and it will be our game. Not the publishers'.

  znaiika

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4/10/13 7:24:51 AM#66
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

Originally posted by znaiika

Originally posted by skyexile

The fact you think Mark Jacobs hasn't put money into this is retarded, you think those artists are just coming in for free to work on the game concepts? I'm pretty sure he's paying them. Also, if you think its a Doac clone your reading comprehension isn't very good and replying further to you would be utterly pointless. if thats what you think then you may as well call it a WoW clone because he said he wants smooth combat, like WoW...

What make you think he has a team?

All is presented? are scetches of an idea, that is all he has to sell, and people are fullish enough to buy it.

He know that DFUW is not what people expected, plus, ESO is on the horizon, this is the best time to sell his idea.

He stated, that he will listen to people wille making CU, this tell me that he actualy know how to get to your heads, fans.

I think this game will never see the light of day.

Does your money have security to return to you, if he abandon his project?

Just look at the KS front page video and you will see his team.

 .

Are you sure that's his team? did you take a closer look on what that team is doing on their computers? did you see any wallpapers about the game in that office? there are yelow ducks and a dino, this tell me that that room is a playroom for kids not a working office.

  Ziftylrhavic

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Joined: 3/15/13
Posts: 223

4/10/13 11:32:45 AM#67
Originally posted by znaiika
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

Originally posted by znaiika

Originally posted by skyexile

The fact you think Mark Jacobs hasn't put money into this is retarded, you think those artists are just coming in for free to work on the game concepts? I'm pretty sure he's paying them. Also, if you think its a Doac clone your reading comprehension isn't very good and replying further to you would be utterly pointless. if thats what you think then you may as well call it a WoW clone because he said he wants smooth combat, like WoW...

What make you think he has a team?

All is presented? are scetches of an idea, that is all he has to sell, and people are fullish enough to buy it.

He know that DFUW is not what people expected, plus, ESO is on the horizon, this is the best time to sell his idea.

He stated, that he will listen to people wille making CU, this tell me that he actualy know how to get to your heads, fans.

I think this game will never see the light of day.

Does your money have security to return to you, if he abandon his project?

Just look at the KS front page video and you will see his team.

 .

Are you sure that's his team? did you take a closer look on what that team is doing on their computers? did you see any wallpapers about the game in that office? there are yelow ducks and a dino, this tell me that that room is a playroom for kids not a working office.

Well yeah, i don't think he would pay some people just to be there, do you?

 

Besides, listen from 00:43 to 00:49 : "Hi, My name is Mark Jacobs and i'm a co-founder of City State Entertainment (that's those guys over there)"

 

About the ducks, i know there is a joke going on in the comments but i never knew from where it started, maybe from there? Or are they there because of the joke? Well, it just proves you can have a sense of humor even when working in a studio.

 

Still waiting for you to answer on the other arguments. For now, it just seems like to me than you are desperately trying to find any little thing to talk bad about the game, i don't really know what to think about it. I guess i'll just tell you how you are wrong each and every time until you get to like the game^^

  Nihilist

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4/10/13 12:22:46 PM#68

1. ( the main one) what happens when this game gets kickstarted but never launchs ( theroetical question not saying it wont)

Then Mark Jacobs will lose 2 million of his own money + the 1 million from an outside investory + his and his team's reputation and ability to get new projects. Yes the backers could get skrewed, but they are aware of that risk and choose their donation amount appropriately.

2. where is all the info on this game in detail, most things about the game are extrweamly vague at best, heck i cant figure out more about it then its a DAoC clone.

There are 11 Foundation principles which are in depth posts or a manifesto of sorts about how the game will work + interviews. Also the information is compiled, just click on the videos / links / news tabs on the CU section OF THIS VERY WEBSITE.

3. What makes the chances of this game being great more then that of any other PvP or RvR based MMO, when there are so many already that promised the exact same thing this one dose.

Read the FPs and listen to the interviews then make your own decision. Most games involve catering the PVE first so PVP takes a back seat in terms of development and balancing. Also RVR in most games basically involves zergs which end up going around in circles keep trading for rewards rather than actually fighting for their realm's glory/pride.

4. why am i giveing money to someone to work on thier dream project when they themselves wont put money into it before me. (yes i know hes going to add money if we do but he should have done that to begin with, but him commiting to it first would make me fill alot better)

This is the most ignorant point of all. Mark has stated the KS effort alone will cost him 150k whether it succeeds or not. He has raised 3 million from himself + 1 investor. There is little point in committing to desigining a product if you don't have the money to do so.

5.am i going to have to buy the game after investing in the kickstarter, for that matter what kind of payment system will it be. ( this info might be out there i just dont know myself to be honest)

Been answered a million times already. For 25 dollars you are pre-ordering the game. If the project doesn't get funded you pay zero.

 

I get that the moment something gets traction and becomes popular all of the attention seeking haters / trolls come out to play which is what it is.

My main problem with this post is that you are pretty much acting like a little kid who needs his hand held and can't figure anything out yourself.

  znaiika

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4/10/13 1:01:55 PM#69
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic 

Still waiting for you to answer on the other arguments. For now, it just seems like to me than you are desperately trying to find any little thing to talk bad about the game, i don't really know what to think about it. I guess i'll just tell you how you are wrong each and every time until you get to like the game^^

No, I am not trying to find something bad to talk about CU, in fact I wish for it to be funded and delivered as promised, then see if it was worth the investment.

Me? I am out of it, because I see it as not interesting and tedious game, we will see what happen, CU could of been sooo much better.

  Ziftylrhavic

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4/10/13 2:02:36 PM#70
Originally posted by znaiika
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic 

Still waiting for you to answer on the other arguments. For now, it just seems like to me than you are desperately trying to find any little thing to talk bad about the game, i don't really know what to think about it. I guess i'll just tell you how you are wrong each and every time until you get to like the game^^

No, I am not trying to find something bad to talk about CU, in fact I wish for it to be funded and delivered as promised, then see if it was worth the investment.

Me? I am out of it, because I see it as not interesting and tedious game, we will see what happen, CU could of been sooo much better.

I understand you can find it not interesting, but tedious? Unless you meant tiring, it is not the case at all. Players will be able to build a lot of things, so unless you just roam around and fight the same groups that are also just roaming, you will never get the same fight twice.

  znaiika

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4/10/13 3:28:25 PM#71
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

I understand you can find it not interesting, but tedious? Unless you meant tiring, it is not the case at all. Players will be able to build a lot of things, so unless you just roam around and fight the same groups that are also just roaming, you will never get the same fight twice.

Lots and lots of grind = tedious.

Geather, build, teer-down, destroy, then do it all over again and again and again, for how long? 1 month? 2? 3? maybe four.

That is what you're going to get from CU.

  Aerowyn

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4/10/13 3:37:20 PM#72
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

 

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Tokken

Looks like this game has got potential. BUT no PvE? That's just not right. I would prefer to have other options as well as RvR. That's disappointing. IMO I think it's fail before the game even starts then....

i thought that way at first then i thought about how amazing say gw2 WvW would be if that was the whole game and they put 100% of their resources in WvW it honestly would be incredible i think.. i think there is room in the MMO world for a pure RvR PVP only game and what better dev to bring this to light than Mark Jacobs

there's going to be plenty of 3 faction MMOs in the future with PVE content like TESO 

Where did you read there will be nothing to do but RvR? First, the crafter class will be made so it'll be fun to play full time and will be almost useless while fighting so you will just have to focus on surviving or fleeing. Second, MJ stated they were working on other things to do to take a break from RvR.

 

and what is the purpose of the crafter? to support people in RvR... my point is the whole game is about the RvR even if you have side things to do "inside" the world it's still there to support RvR unlike games like say TESO which will have a big "focus" on 3 faction PVP but of course has a complete PVE game outside the RvR map. I think the decision to stricly focus on the RvR aspect is a good idea like I said plenty of games offer seige warfare but how many in this genre are almost completely focused on that aspect of the game, i think this gives this game a unique oppurtunity to make something special and unique for the genre. 

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  Sideras

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4/10/13 3:44:58 PM#73

To answer 1. and 2. There is already money in the project, it will happen wheter or not it gets kickstarted or not. But if it gets kickstarted there is 2 million dollars more for them to improve the game with, if people are intrested enough and want to see that happen, why not?

So MJ will basically put more money into it wheter on not it gets kickstarted. The rest... Well we'll just have to wait and see. I doubt they'll just cancel the project and run away, I'd even assume that's illegal.

  Ziftylrhavic

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4/10/13 3:45:48 PM#74
Originally posted by znaiika
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

I understand you can find it not interesting, but tedious? Unless you meant tiring, it is not the case at all. Players will be able to build a lot of things, so unless you just roam around and fight the same groups that are also just roaming, you will never get the same fight twice.

Lots and lots of grind = tedious.

Geather, build, teer-down, destroy, then do it all over again and again and again, for how long? 1 month? 2? 3? maybe four.

That is what you're going to get from CU.

Well, grind isn't fun when you kill mobs, meaning when you fight against an AI. Here we will be fighting other humans, that learn from their mistakes, and you won't be able to use the same tricks for more than a few days, or against noobs. that almost isn't grinding, as you won't fight to get to the next level, you fight for fun. Of course you look forward to the next level, but not being there yet isn't a problem.

 

If you want an example of successful neverending fights, and on top of that with no evolution from your characters, take a look at Super Smash Bross Melee, a game for the Nintendo Gamecube, i know people that still play it even though it's been years it was out and the characters don't have any single way of developping.

  furbans

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4/10/13 3:46:46 PM#75

It'll launch most likely and then people are gonna rage all over the forums how it's the biggest POS and biggerst dissapointment and QQ what it should have been... just like with every MMO that has passed.

I'm very skeptic of kickstarter MMOs as MMOs are notorious for not following through with their plans or what plans they do follow through with they are half assed and are there for the sake of saying they have X feature.

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4/10/13 3:49:28 PM#76
I love how people are saying that Cu is going to be this or that.  the game is not out and is still pretty much an idea.
  Ziftylrhavic

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4/10/13 3:53:30 PM#77

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

 

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Tokken

Looks like this game has got potential. BUT no PvE? That's just not right. I would prefer to have other options as well as RvR. That's disappointing. IMO I think it's fail before the game even starts then....

i thought that way at first then i thought about how amazing say gw2 WvW would be if that was the whole game and they put 100% of their resources in WvW it honestly would be incredible i think.. i think there is room in the MMO world for a pure RvR PVP only game and what better dev to bring this to light than Mark Jacobs

there's going to be plenty of 3 faction MMOs in the future with PVE content like TESO 

Where did you read there will be nothing to do but RvR? First, the crafter class will be made so it'll be fun to play full time and will be almost useless while fighting so you will just have to focus on surviving or fleeing. Second, MJ stated they were working on other things to do to take a break from RvR.

 

and what is the purpose of the crafter? to support people in RvR... my point is the whole game is about the RvR even if you have side things to do "inside" the world it's still there to support RvR unlike games like say TESO which will have a big "focus" on 3 faction PVP but of course has a complete PVE game outside the RvR map. I think the decision to stricly focus on the RvR aspect is a good idea like I said plenty of games offer seige warfare but how many in this genre are almost completely focused on that aspect of the game, i think this gives this game a unique oppurtunity to make something special and unique for the genre. 

That's true, it's still part of the RvR. Habitually, people complain about RvR being too tiring for extended or relaxing play, and that PvE would be for that, so i answered to that, although it wasn't really the question^^

Originally posted by Sideras

To answer 1. and 2. There is already money in the project, it will happen wheter or not it gets kickstarted or not. But if it gets kickstarted there is 2 million dollars more for them to improve the game with, if people are intrested enough and want to see that happen, why not?

So MJ will basically put more money into it wheter on not it gets kickstarted. The rest... Well we'll just have to wait and see. I doubt they'll just cancel the project and run away, I'd even assume that's illegal.

You are wrong here. MJ pledged $2M to create the game, but also said if KS doesn't fund it means there won't be enough people that'll play the game to be able to keep it going.

 

So if KS doesn't fund, and they still need significant money, they will drop the project , and the game won't be made.

  Ziftylrhavic

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4/10/13 4:11:11 PM#78

Originally posted by furbans

It'll launch most likely and then people are gonna rage all over the forums how it's the biggest POS and biggerst dissapointment and QQ what it should have been... just like with every MMO that has passed.

I'm very skeptic of kickstarter MMOs as MMOs are notorious for not following through with their plans or what plans they do follow through with they are half assed and are there for the sake of saying they have X feature.

The difference here is than there won't be any big publisher demanding to add some feature to have bigger number of players. To be more accurate, MJ will be able to do the game for the few people that'll play it, for the niche. That means it will be an awesome game as a good part of that niche will be giving their advice and help create the game with the backers forum. And you can be sure MJ will do everything to make the game the best he can for those people because he goes with a subscription model, so either he please them either nobody play the game and it fail.

 

So it's normal for the majority of people to not like the game, but the few that like it will find it awesome and should be enough to keep it going.

Originally posted by darkbalth
I love how people are saying that Cu is going to be this or that.  the game is not out and is still pretty much an idea.

An idea yes, but with quite precise borders and more and more details.

  Kenichi

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4/10/13 4:30:20 PM#79
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

Originally posted by Sideras

To answer 1. and 2. There is already money in the project, it will happen wheter or not it gets kickstarted or not. But if it gets kickstarted there is 2 million dollars more for them to improve the game with, if people are intrested enough and want to see that happen, why not?

So MJ will basically put more money into it wheter on not it gets kickstarted. The rest... Well we'll just have to wait and see. I doubt they'll just cancel the project and run away, I'd even assume that's illegal.

You are wrong here. MJ pledged $2M to create the game, but also said if KS doesn't fund it means there won't be enough people that'll play the game to be able to keep it going.

 

So if KS doesn't fund, and they still need significant money, they will drop the project , and the game won't be made.

Just curious, but do you have a link to where he said that? With some people investing $5000 or more, does that mean it is assumed that would account for X amount of users? That seems to be some bad estimating there.

  Aerowyn

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4/10/13 4:40:12 PM#80
Originally posted by Kenichi
Originally posted by Ziftylrhavic

Originally posted by Sideras

To answer 1. and 2. There is already money in the project, it will happen wheter or not it gets kickstarted or not. But if it gets kickstarted there is 2 million dollars more for them to improve the game with, if people are intrested enough and want to see that happen, why not?

So MJ will basically put more money into it wheter on not it gets kickstarted. The rest... Well we'll just have to wait and see. I doubt they'll just cancel the project and run away, I'd even assume that's illegal.

You are wrong here. MJ pledged $2M to create the game, but also said if KS doesn't fund it means there won't be enough people that'll play the game to be able to keep it going.

 

So if KS doesn't fund, and they still need significant money, they will drop the project , and the game won't be made.

Just curious, but do you have a link to where he said that? With some people investing $5000 or more, does that mean it is assumed that would account for X amount of users? That seems to be some bad estimating there.

And this reason, above any other, is why I chose to do this via Kickstarter. If I can't convince enough people to back this project, it makes little sense to go to investors to get $10M. OTOH, if we get $2M from our Kickstarters, I'm putting in my money and an additional $1M to make this game a reality.(http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5659831#5659831)

 

I'll be out at least $2M dollars...

IDK, seems like that's a pretty big risk to me. Whether we fund, fail to fund, fund but fail, I've got plenty of "skin in the game" in more ways than one. :)

Goodnight all.(http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5659109#5659109)

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