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  eyelolled

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1/05/13 2:06:23 PM#41
because I get really bored with zombie stuff. AND I hear nothing but bad things about the developers. I honestly won't ever buy any product from them, just because of the things that they've done with this title. Once a crook, always a crook.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Rusque

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1/05/13 2:12:44 PM#42
Zombie genre is boring. The movies, the games, the walking dead. Bores me to no end.
  Aredyl

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1/05/13 3:57:18 PM#43
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Because it's a cash grab game. It originally had nothing to do with zombies and was retrofitted to ride the Day Z wave. The developers are shams.

Of course.  Saying that the company and the game is a sham is one thing - point out examples helps eliminate doubt that they are nothing but a money grab.

  Forgefeu

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1/07/13 11:56:00 AM#44

10 reasons :

 

1) Arts stolen from The walking dead

2) Game in dev since 6 months but they are pretending being the first

3) Have nothing to do with MMO

4) Buy to play with a cash shop (should be one or the other) + cash shop to me can't work for a game based on survival

5) No update since 3 months, basically the game is the same since beta

6) there isn't even a quarter of the promised feature, and the features already in aren't up to what they are pretending

7) Baned fair regular player and even pillar of the community

8) Dev treathing their community like shit

9) i don't even think the dev are real dev since they haven't done anything but only promise, the game for now is just a quick made mod of another game.

10) lie everywhere, everytime, run away from them, the dev team doesn't even have an official website ...

  Talonsin

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1/18/13 5:25:30 PM#45
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath
Originally posted by Talonsin
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath
Originally posted by Laross
War Z was in the works before you even knew Day Z existed ...

Got any proof?  Lets be honest...  The game runs on the War Inc engine and uses many of the same art.  Cover and PR art was taken from other sites and even the terms of service were copied from LOL.  All indications are that this game has been in development for less than 6 months.  I ask you to provide some proof that it has been developed longer.  Please dont come back with that statement from the official website saying it was in development for years.  We have already seen that the Development team behind the game is anything but truthful.

The War Z started as quest progression multiplayer game based on the book "World War Z" (without permision of course) hence the name The War Z. When Day Z came out they decided to change the game from a multiplayer lobby type game to an MMO (not-really-a-MMO) type game

Sergey Titov - IGN.COM

So short answer – while we began developing our game before DayZ, we've been encouraged by fact that DayZ has become so popular. And yes, of course some of our latest design decisions were influenced by the DayZ community forums.

I specifically asked for proof and stated that the developers word was not trusted.  What do you do, you quote the developer who has been caught in lie after lie.  Lets talk about what has actually happened and stop pretending that what comes out of Sergeys mouth is actually truthful.

 

1. It is the exact same engine as War Inc.

2. It has much of the EXACT same artwork as War Inc

3. It has the exact same char interface as War Inc

4. The company was only established this year

 

Lets be honest for a moment, they took a copy of War Inc, placed it on a new map and added a little bit of artwork plus some poorly coded zombies.  This masterpiece did not take more than 6 months to put together.

It is a copy of War Inc with a small amount of new art, everyone can see this.  Have you even looked at the comparison?

http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5

You can keep saying that since Sergey says it, it must be true but everyone who is not emotionally blind with fanboism can see the game is a fast copy made to cash in on the Day Z's fame.

 

 

  Crunchy222

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Joined: 10/09/12
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2/24/13 12:32:53 AM#46
Originally posted by Talonsin
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath
Originally posted by Talonsin
Originally posted by Jeff_Permadeath
Originally posted by Laross
War Z was in the works before you even knew Day Z existed ...

Got any proof?  Lets be honest...  The game runs on the War Inc engine and uses many of the same art.  Cover and PR art was taken from other sites and even the terms of service were copied from LOL.  All indications are that this game has been in development for less than 6 months.  I ask you to provide some proof that it has been developed longer.  Please dont come back with that statement from the official website saying it was in development for years.  We have already seen that the Development team behind the game is anything but truthful.

The War Z started as quest progression multiplayer game based on the book "World War Z" (without permision of course) hence the name The War Z. When Day Z came out they decided to change the game from a multiplayer lobby type game to an MMO (not-really-a-MMO) type game

Sergey Titov - IGN.COM

So short answer – while we began developing our game before DayZ, we've been encouraged by fact that DayZ has become so popular. And yes, of course some of our latest design decisions were influenced by the DayZ community forums.

I specifically asked for proof and stated that the developers word was not trusted.  What do you do, you quote the developer who has been caught in lie after lie.  Lets talk about what has actually happened and stop pretending that what comes out of Sergeys mouth is actually truthful.

 

1. It is the exact same engine as War Inc.

2. It has much of the EXACT same artwork as War Inc

3. It has the exact same char interface as War Inc

4. The company was only established this year

 

Lets be honest for a moment, they took a copy of War Inc, placed it on a new map and added a little bit of artwork plus some poorly coded zombies.  This masterpiece did not take more than 6 months to put together.

It is a copy of War Inc with a small amount of new art, everyone can see this.  Have you even looked at the comparison?

http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5

You can keep saying that since Sergey says it, it must be true but everyone who is not emotionally blind with fanboism can see the game is a fast copy made to cash in on the Day Z's fame.

 

 

Nah sergey made big rigs over the road racing.  want to see the future of what warz holds in the hand of the brilliant developer sergey is?  google "Big Rig: Over the Road Racing"

youll notice warz and that game have a few things in common...mostly related to lies on the box about features that were never put in game, along with a whole lot of beyond amazing features involving ....well google if if you are not familair with a very famous game that sergy made. Theres a lot of youtube videos on the game, and given thats a much older game...you can expect that no additional features will be put in warz and little will be done in terms of development.

  Home15

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Joined: 5/27/05
Posts: 208

4/03/13 6:23:53 AM#47

For me its that evry screenshot they flaunt with it is not ingame.

No cars, no zombies in water, no people dragging dead bodies to burn them.

 

  Caldrin

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Joined: 10/02/04
Posts: 4074

4/03/13 6:25:46 AM#48

its not bad for what it is and for what i paid for it...

 

I dont think it was ready for full release and they really should have limited the alpha access..

My 3D models
http://dragon3d.webs.com/

  Miblet

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4/03/13 6:32:34 AM#49
Originally posted by TheScavenger

 So, with that in mind...what of the game (not the developers, or anything with Steam)...but why don't you like the game itself?

Hackers running rampant.  The antihacking tools are so comical I almost wept when I heard their choice.

Takes ages to move around the map and do anything.

More bugs than an apiary.

Game just feels unfinished in both content and mechanics...because it is!

Cost of the game lends little to lend patience, as does the act of aquiring refunds (if you are even able!).

Blatant IP theft from other companies.

Assets reused from one of their prior games (not just one or 2, most of the game IS the WarInc).

 

Part of me is expecting this to be the end of the Warz.  'The hackers destroyed our game!' being a convenient (for them) excuse to drop the game, given previous form.

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4697

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4/03/13 6:34:03 AM#50

I don't know, I never played it, just watched some video of Total Biscuit saying how crappy he thought it was.  The Steam thing was unfortunate, but I find it funny how they're now selling "Early Access" to games a few months after the WarZ scandal. lol

I guess if I had to give a reason why I wasn't going to play it (ie: not why I "didn't like it"), it'd be that the DayZ guys deserve my money more and frankly, they've worked on this concept far longer than some last-minute cash grab devs, meaning the gameplay will almost assuredly be better.  The good news is that most companies can redeem themselves if they try hard enough, so if the WarZ guys still have enough talent, good luck to them making up for their "crimes" on the horizon.

  StarI

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Posts: 787

4/03/13 8:02:55 AM#51
Originally posted by Eir_S

I don't know, I never played it, just watched some video of Total Biscuit saying how crappy he thought it was.  The Steam thing was unfortunate, but I find it funny how they're now selling "Early Access" to games a few months after the WarZ scandal. lol

I guess if I had to give a reason why I wasn't going to play it (ie: not why I "didn't like it"), it'd be that the DayZ guys deserve my money more and frankly, they've worked on this concept far longer than some last-minute cash grab devs, meaning the gameplay will almost assuredly be better.  The good news is that most companies can redeem themselves if they try hard enough, so if the WarZ guys still have enough talent, good luck to them making up for their "crimes" on the horizon.

 

I have no respect to how HP handles WarZ and the tracks they move one but there's one thing that disgusts me more and that is random clueless internet drivel, especially by people who don't have 1st hand opinion based on their own experience.

 

1st of all, WarZ is a good game for what it is. Easily better working than DayZ mod and arguably better overall.

DayZ atm is not a game but a mod.... (standalone version is at least 12 months away and far from being playable thus comparisons are just silly). Like WarZ is ripped out of  War Inc, DayZ mod is ripped out of ArmA II. (And DayZ standalone will be/is ripped out of Arma III). Saying that DayZ guys deserve money more is like saying Blizzard deserves money more than all the other games copying WoW.

Whole fucking world that we human beings make, is based on copying. Someone figures something and thousands of others copy it. Are you too special to realise this or just trolling?

For a consumer this is good because it creates competition and forces people to make better stuff.

If anything HP were extremely quick and rather smart in grabbing this oportunity before several dozens of similar games flood the market. Heck, they were even faster than Rocket who was arguably (he doesn't own the idea) first with the mod. Being quick (rushing) is Hammerpoint's downfall pretty much. Now they have to update on air, every decision exposed to public, whereas with enaugh finances they could develop product "behind the stage" and release it in better shape.

 

 

  Eir_S

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4/03/13 8:09:13 AM#52
Originally posted by StarI
Originally posted by Eir_S

I don't know, I never played it, just watched some video of Total Biscuit saying how crappy he thought it was.  The Steam thing was unfortunate, but I find it funny how they're now selling "Early Access" to games a few months after the WarZ scandal. lol

I guess if I had to give a reason why I wasn't going to play it (ie: not why I "didn't like it"), it'd be that the DayZ guys deserve my money more and frankly, they've worked on this concept far longer than some last-minute cash grab devs, meaning the gameplay will almost assuredly be better.  The good news is that most companies can redeem themselves if they try hard enough, so if the WarZ guys still have enough talent, good luck to them making up for their "crimes" on the horizon.

 

I have no respect to how HP handles WarZ and the tracks they move one but there's one thing that disgusts me more and that is random clueless internet drivel, especially by people who don't have 1st hand opinion based on their own experience.

 

1st of all, WarZ is a good game for what it is. Easily better working than DayZ mod and arguably better overall.

DayZ atm is not a game but a mod.... (standalone version is at least 12 months away and far from being playable thus comparisons are just silly). Like WarZ is ripped out of  War Inc, DayZ mod is ripped out of ArmA II. (And DayZ standalone will be/is ripped out of Arma III). Saying that DayZ guys deserve money more is like saying Blizzard deserves money more than all the other games copying WoW.

Whole fucking world that we human beings make, is based on copying. Someone figures something and thousands of others copy it. Are you too special to realise this or just trolling?

For a consumer this is good because it creates competition and forces people to make better stuff.

If anything HP were extremely quick and rather smart in grabbing this oportunity before several dozens of similar games flood the market. Heck, they were even faster than Rocket who was arguably (he doesn't own the idea) first with the mod. Being quick (rushing) is Hammerpoint's downfall pretty much. Now they have to update on air, every decision exposed to public, whereas with enaugh finances they could develop product "behind the stage" and release it in better shape.

Excuse me?  I can tell it was more than rushing that they're being bashed for.  They took their war game and added zombies, the same as DayZ except they told everyone it was finished.  Not only that, but you're trying to excuse their blatant, rushed, buggy rip-off as "ok" because "everyone copies" and you're calling me special?

Yeah, but I can see this theory of yours really forced them to make "better stuff".  Like I said earlier, better luck next time.  They're lucky if they ever sell anything after this though.

  StarI

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4/03/13 8:52:03 AM#53
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by StarI
Originally posted by Eir_S

I don't know, I never played it, just watched some video of Total Biscuit saying how crappy he thought it was.  The Steam thing was unfortunate, but I find it funny how they're now selling "Early Access" to games a few months after the WarZ scandal. lol

I guess if I had to give a reason why I wasn't going to play it (ie: not why I "didn't like it"), it'd be that the DayZ guys deserve my money more and frankly, they've worked on this concept far longer than some last-minute cash grab devs, meaning the gameplay will almost assuredly be better.  The good news is that most companies can redeem themselves if they try hard enough, so if the WarZ guys still have enough talent, good luck to them making up for their "crimes" on the horizon.

 

I have no respect to how HP handles WarZ and the tracks they move one but there's one thing that disgusts me more and that is random clueless internet drivel, especially by people who don't have 1st hand opinion based on their own experience.

 

1st of all, WarZ is a good game for what it is. Easily better working than DayZ mod and arguably better overall.

DayZ atm is not a game but a mod.... (standalone version is at least 12 months away and far from being playable thus comparisons are just silly). Like WarZ is ripped out of  War Inc, DayZ mod is ripped out of ArmA II. (And DayZ standalone will be/is ripped out of Arma III). Saying that DayZ guys deserve money more is like saying Blizzard deserves money more than all the other games copying WoW.

Whole fucking world that we human beings make, is based on copying. Someone figures something and thousands of others copy it. Are you too special to realise this or just trolling?

For a consumer this is good because it creates competition and forces people to make better stuff.

If anything HP were extremely quick and rather smart in grabbing this oportunity before several dozens of similar games flood the market. Heck, they were even faster than Rocket who was arguably (he doesn't own the idea) first with the mod. Being quick (rushing) is Hammerpoint's downfall pretty much. Now they have to update on air, every decision exposed to public, whereas with enaugh finances they could develop product "behind the stage" and release it in better shape.

Excuse me?  I can tell it was more than rushing that they're being bashed for.  They took their war game and added zombies, the same as DayZ except they told everyone it was finished.  Not only that, but you're trying to excuse their blatant, rushed, buggy rip-off as "ok" because "everyone copies" and you're calling me special?

Yeah, but I can see this theory of yours really forced them to make "better stuff".  Like I said earlier, better luck next time.  They're lucky if they ever sell anything after this though.

 

Just to point you in right direction, Rocket and his DayZ are the ones who have to look at similar existing titles and make their game better, learning out of others flaws. And that is good. ie. WarZ is good, people like it or not.

 

And about HP rushing, again, it is  The reason for all other flaws. If they took time developing and the game wasn't released today, there would be none of the drama they had in last few months.

 

As I said they were smart enaugh to convert their other game into a popular and demanded game BUT probably expected DayZ to release sooner. If they had todays' info about DayZ going beta in about 12 months than I'm sure they would have taken a few more months to release.

 

Also they don't need luck. They are either happy with what they've gotten or if they wish to earn more they simply need to work hard. Everyone will no doubt flock to DayZ standalone when it gets out but HP still has time to develop WarZ and for what we know it can still turn out to be better than DayZ in 1 year from now.

  xenoclix

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/07
Posts: 287

4/09/13 9:53:18 PM#54

This is the reason why i don't get into the politics about games and developers and so forth. It ruins the whole experience and fun factor for the game - for me anyway.

Taking out all the politics, such as the copying, lieing and so forth. I quite liked the game, as i do with DayZ and many other games revolving around the zombie/horror genre.

After actually giving in and reading about all the politics, it ruined the game for me, its a shame. Even though i liked it, and still do when i see it, i just don't feel like downloading it anymore.

Overall there will be many other games like this coming out sooner or later. The same debates will pop up, copy this copy that. Lieing shouldnt be done though regardless of what game it is and company.

 

Overall, im going to keep enjoying games and try not let all the fluff of politics ruin MY gaming experiences. Everyone has their right to say what they want, but trying to tell people they are WRONG for liking a product over another for whatever reason is just bad.

 

  JKwervo

Novice Member

Joined: 6/27/12
Posts: 140

4/10/13 12:18:06 AM#55

It's not even about Politics. 

 

It's about Hammerpoint Studios = really bad devs. Bad people. Just bad overall. 

 

But hey, if you like bad people, bad devs, just...bad in general. I say go for it. That's your prerogative. 

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