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  Ziftylrhavic

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Posts: 223

4/09/13 12:46:16 PM#21
Originally posted by Edany

Please stop with the hand-wringing posts already. If you're so worried about CU funding, spending your time gnashing your teeth on this forum about it won't help in any way.

Continue to spread the word elsewhere since this resource has been tapped out, keep a positive tone, stop being disprespectful to people who have chosen not to fund - they have valid opinions and its their money, then - go for a walk. Step away from the computer, get some fresh air, understand that no matter what, it is still just a damn game.

 

I agree with that post.

 

There is already a post pinned to the top of the forum to talk about KS progress, stop creating new thread about it, it will just get us the spammer title and hate.

 

 

  ScriptZ

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4/09/13 12:59:53 PM#22
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

  Mystais

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4/09/13 1:00:11 PM#23
Originally posted by Drakonal
Originally posted by meddyck
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

How do you get a refund for a non-existent charge? Sounds like a sweet deal!

You sir are a moron i don't know what is more hilarious the fact that you posted this or the fact that you think anyone has been charged anything out of pocket for a "pledge" as of yet.

 

 

-Drak

He did say 'launch', not fund via Kickstarter.  The Kickstarter campaign can fund and then you all would be charged.  That does not guarantee the game will ever launch.

 

Dang, ScriptZ beat me to it.

Tabletop RPG gaming since Chainmail and D&D was a blue book with some cheap plastic dice and a crayon. MMORPGing since MOOS/MUDS, when forums were just bulletin boards and players actually roleplayed their characters.

  RefMinor

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4/09/13 1:03:14 PM#24
Originally posted by meddyck
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

How do you get a refund for a non-existent charge? Sounds like a sweet deal!

He said launch, not get funded, there is a long time between a successful kickstarter and the game launching where the company is spending the money pledged, if the budget badly or suffer from overruns then they may run out of cash before launching, if that happens no one gets a refund as their money has gone.

edit: Dang, everyone beat me too it.

  JimmyYO

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4/09/13 1:04:57 PM#25
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding.

And yes you can still lose all your money and have no game to show for it. Just because the kickstarter succeeds doesn't mean the game will launch. How silly.

  TheLizardbones

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4/09/13 1:06:16 PM#26


Originally posted by meddyck

Originally posted by jimdandy26

Originally posted by meddyck Relax. It is steadily making progress. In the final days if it is a bit short, there will be a surge like on day 1. For instance look at what happened with Pathfinder Online... http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo/#chart-daily
Yeah but some of that last spike has been widely speculated to have been tossed in by developer pool. It is an anomaly.
Well it got 1927 new backers that day by far its most ever. That would be a lot of fake email addresses for a small dev team to create in one day. My understanding is a big final spike is pretty common for successful Kickstarters in general too.



The OP falls into the category of DOOM posts that aren't restricted to just gaming. "If trends continue there will be " * choose one * (no blondes by 2050/no potable water by 2050/no breathable air by 2050/too many MMOs/no MMOs/add your own!). The thing is that the trends must continue for the predictions to hold true, when it is never established that the trends will continue.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  RefMinor

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4/09/13 1:09:42 PM#27
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding. How silly.

When you pledge you enter your card details, unless you withdraw your pledge before it closes the money is taken automatically. The kickstarters I have watched have had a number of backers pulling out in the last few days, with CU high average pledge and lower number of backers this could have a disproportionate effect.

  Wazluk

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4/09/13 1:09:53 PM#28
Originally posted by JimmyYO

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding.

And yes you can still lose all your money and have no game to show for it. Just because the kickstarter succeeds doesn't mean the game will launch. How silly.

Solid facts...

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  Jayaris

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4/09/13 1:11:32 PM#29
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding.

And yes you can still lose all your money and have no game to show for it. Just because the kickstarter succeeds doesn't mean the game will launch. How silly.

I've never heard of Kickstarter's receiving downwards of fifty percent of the money pledged.

Any evidence to back that up?

Anyrate, the only thing that's silly here is the amount of effort you expend on a forum for a game you'll never play.

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  OgreRaper

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4/09/13 1:14:41 PM#30
It's going to hit 1 million today, and still have 21 days left to get the next million. While it's certainly no guarantee, I'm not worried just yet.
  Drakynn

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Posts: 2051

4/09/13 1:18:00 PM#31
While I am in no way against CU getting funded.Part of MJ doing things this way is to see if there is enough interest in this vision of a MMORPG to be profitable.If it does indeed fall short of it's goal then tha tis an answer....not the want fans want but better than producing the game and thne having it fail due to lack of itnerest from MJ and co's POV.
  ScriptZ

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Posts: 75

4/09/13 1:18:47 PM#32
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding.

And yes you can still lose all your money and have no game to show for it. Just because the kickstarter succeeds doesn't mean the game will launch. How silly.

Yeah sure you can, but then those ppl then will have big chance at losing their company and of corse being sued or end up in federal prison depending on homeland anyways. It aint like KS scams would be something new scams have always been around and ppl just have to be smart enough to see if it looks like a scam or not and be willing to risk it. When I pledge on a game I'm doing it because I trust the person to make the game I want if it don't happen well all well I took the risk to get the game I wanted, since getting that game any other ways would usually never happen, so no big deal. On average the most I'd lose is $50 and I waste more then that on junk every month anyways, so at least this way I have a chance at getting the game I've been wanting.

  JimmyYO

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4/09/13 1:20:23 PM#33
I've never heard of Kickstarter's receiving downwards of fifty percent of the money pledged.

Any evidence to back that up?

Anyrate, the only thing that's silly here is the amount of effort you expend on a forum for a game you'll never play.

I said "might." Theres also very few successful kickstarters in general so you really can't fall back on any status quo. Cards will get declined, accounts will get cancelled, people will withdraw and if numbers weren't checked you'll get fake pledges as well. The point is a large amount will disappear, whether it's 50%, 30% or 10% it's significant enough to tank the project.

That's not to say it's a guaranteed fail but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Even if the kickstarter is a complete success x2 it does not ensure the game will even get half made.

  KappenWiz

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4/09/13 1:21:04 PM#34

Wait, what's this about no blondes after 2050?

  RefMinor

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4/09/13 1:22:25 PM#35
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
Originally posted by ScriptZ
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I don't know if it will be hilarious or tragic when the game doesn't launch and all these fangirls get no refund. Maybe you got whats coming to you for spaming the forums with your nonsense?

You don't get charged unless the KS succeeds, also I believe if  the KS succeeds and it turns out to be a scam then KS has the right to pull all that money back from that starter and give the money back to the backers. I beleive that's what happened to that New Dawn 2015 scam. Not sure tho since I never backed it even tho it did look good. All I know is when I was reading about it being found out as a scam that the backers got their money back. Something a long those lines is what I read anyways.

Wow you serious? Do they really expect all the charges to go through when they hit there mark? Do they have any idea how fickle online pledges are? They may receive less then half of what is promised when it comes time to pay up. In this case it's highly likely this game will never see the light of day, at least without outside funding.

And yes you can still lose all your money and have no game to show for it. Just because the kickstarter succeeds doesn't mean the game will launch. How silly.

Yeah sure you can, but then those ppl then will have big chance at losing their company and of corse being sued or end up in federal prison depending on homeland anyways. It aint like KS scams would be something new scams have always been around and ppl just have to be smart enough to see if it looks like a scam or not and be willing to risk it. When I pledge on a game I'm doing it because I trust the person to make the game I want if it don't happen well all well I took the risk to get the game I wanted, since getting that game any other ways would usually never happen, so no big deal. On average the most I'd lose is $50 and I waste more then that on junk every month anyways, so at least this way I have a chance at getting the game I've been wanting.

It's only a scam if you do not intend to make the game, if you try your best to get the game out and run out of investment and fail, then it is just a failed business venture.

  Xarnthal

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4/09/13 1:23:50 PM#36
Originally posted by Hokibukisa

For whatever reason the pledged total over time is following a logarithmic curve, which isn't surprising this was to be expected.

 

Following this logarithmic total pattern, CU won't make it to $2 million.

 

Do something.

 

Now.

 

Whatever stupid bullshit you are holding back for that magical $1 million mark, you probably don't have time for that. You need to generate more interest immediately.

Shroud of the Avatar jumped $600,000 the last 18 hours.

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  RefMinor

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4/09/13 1:25:14 PM#37
Originally posted by JimmyYO
I've never heard of Kickstarter's receiving downwards of fifty percent of the money pledged.

Any evidence to back that up?

Anyrate, the only thing that's silly here is the amount of effort you expend on a forum for a game you'll never play.

I said "might." Theres also very few successful kickstarters in general so you really can't fall back on any status quo. Cards will get declined, accounts will get cancelled, people will withdraw and if numbers weren't checked you'll get fake pledges as well. The point is a large amount will disappear, whether it's 50%, 30% or 10% it's significant enough to tank the project.

That's not to say it's a guaranteed fail but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Even if the kickstarter is a complete success x2 it does not ensure the game will even get half made.

Yes, only 39000 successfully funded KS projects, hardly enough to have an opinion.

  Falwell

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4/09/13 1:27:06 PM#38

It's extremely rare for projects that garner serious interest to come up short. A stat straight from KS:

Of the projects that have reached 20% of their funding goal, 82% were successfully funded. Of the projects that have reached 60% of their funding goal, 98% were successfully funded. Projects either make their goal or find little support. There's little in-between. "

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  collekt

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4/09/13 1:28:39 PM#39
Originally posted by Edany

Please stop with the hand-wringing posts already. If you're so worried about CU funding, spending your time gnashing your teeth on this forum about it won't help in any way.

Continue to spread the word elsewhere since this resource has been tapped out, keep a positive tone, stop being disprespectful to people who have chosen not to fund - they have valid opinions and its their money, then - go for a walk. Step away from the computer, get some fresh air, understand that no matter what, it is still just a damn game.

 

FYI, the supporters of this game are not always the disrespectful ones. People continue to flood into the CU forum to let everyone know their opinion of how dumb they are for backing a Kickstarter, and about how it's all a scam and the game will never get made, etc. I'm not trying to say the opposition are the only disrespectful ones, but they certainly are included. Half the people here spend more effort trying to doom this game than the supporters spend to get the word out about it. 

  GrayGhost79

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4/09/13 1:32:15 PM#40
Originally posted by Xarnthal
Originally posted by Hokibukisa

For whatever reason the pledged total over time is following a logarithmic curve, which isn't surprising this was to be expected.

 

Following this logarithmic total pattern, CU won't make it to $2 million.

 

Do something.

 

Now.

 

Whatever stupid bullshit you are holding back for that magical $1 million mark, you probably don't have time for that. You need to generate more interest immediately.

Shroud of the Avatar jumped $600,000 the last 18 hours.

When referencing SotA or Pathfinder keep in mind these were different situations. Most of the details of the game were clearly laid out and videos and demos were shown. I wouldn't use them of an example of whats likely to happen here. I pledged to both SotA and Pathfinder and while I like the idea of an old school RvR game I have far from enough information about the game to even consider pledging and I am not the only one that feels this way by a long shot. 

The constant begging here isn't helping matters either. 

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