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  amalmer1

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4/08/13 8:52:04 PM#41
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by Nanfoodle

Im a hard core DAoC fan and CU is not enough of a MMO to make me even care to look into it much past the fact there is no PvE. No open world dungeons or lands to explore and enjoy with the fear of being attacked by players. CU IMO is not a MMO, its a battle ground taken from a great MMO. 15 bucks a month to play a battleground. ESO has 10 times more content and 3 faction DAoC RvR. As a DAoC fan this is a easy choice.

I call it a Fantasy Call of Duty Clone.

With a montly fee

  Panzerbase

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4/08/13 8:52:25 PM#42
Titan will sweep out the trash and CU will be regulated to some niche crowd if it even survives. 
  Tierless

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4/08/13 10:48:41 PM#43


Originally posted by dinams
Let me tell what will happen

 

TESO launches, people play it, get to the end-game in 2 weeks and come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Archeage launches on the west, people play it, get very deep on the game and then come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Blizzard announces Titan, hype goes off the fucking charts, every other mmo then looks like a time waster until titan launchs

Camelot Unchained releases, old-school fans gets disappointed for the game not being exactly DAoC with better graphics and not even remotely paying its hype off, more fresh players get disappointed by indie quality gameplay and everyone will have their eyes on the new shiny mmos coming out

World of Darkness launches, it replaces EvE as the sandbox king

Titan laucnhes, it replaces WoW as the mmo king

 

And then you have CCP and Blizzard ruling the mmo market

Just as today


nicely done sir

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  baphamet

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4/08/13 11:30:09 PM#44


Originally posted by dinams
Let me tell what will happen

 

TESO launches, people play it, get to the end-game in 2 weeks and come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Archeage launches on the west, people play it, get very deep on the game and then come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Blizzard announces Titan, hype goes off the fucking charts, every other mmo then looks like a time waster until titan launchs

Camelot Unchained releases, old-school fans gets disappointed for the game not being exactly DAoC with better graphics and not even remotely paying its hype off, more fresh players get disappointed by indie quality gameplay and everyone will have their eyes on the new shiny mmos coming out

World of Darkness launches, it replaces EvE as the sandbox king

Titan laucnhes, it replaces WoW as the mmo king

 

And then you have CCP and Blizzard ruling the mmo market

Just as today


cannot really argue with this except people here will whine up a storm about titan no matter what it is unless its just a completely different type of mmo that is a new concept.

knowing blizzard, that just aint gonna happen.

  Dren_Utogi

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4/08/13 11:34:45 PM#45
No one outside of mmo fan sites anf mmorpg portals will hear or read about Cu. ESo will do amazingly. 

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  Caliburn101

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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein

4/09/13 3:23:36 AM#46

Camelot Mk 2 isn't nearly enough of a backed and funded, or even partially completed game to give the endless 'DAoC-or-nothing' tunnel-visioned somewhere else to go where the IP better fits the game model.

A pity - they might be happier going where the primary thing they care about is catered for without any interference from the past, established IP fans or indeed anything resembling an opinion differing significantly from their own.

It would however reduce traffic on this site by an appreciable amount, and leave us all living in a more monochrome world.

So - swings and roundabouts...

  Caliburn101

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"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein

4/09/13 3:26:14 AM#47
Originally posted by dinams

Let me tell what will happen

 

TESO launches, people play it, get to the end-game in 2 weeks and come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Archeage launches on the west, people play it, get very deep on the game and then come to mmorpg.com saying how the game sucks and disappoints

Blizzard announces Titan, hype goes off the fucking charts, every other mmo then looks like a time waster until titan launchs

Camelot Unchained releases, old-school fans gets disappointed for the game not being exactly DAoC with better graphics and not even remotely paying its hype off, more fresh players get disappointed by indie quality gameplay and everyone will have their eyes on the new shiny mmos coming out

World of Darkness launches, it replaces EvE as the sandbox king

Titan laucnhes, it replaces WoW as the mmo king

 

And then you have CCP and Blizzard ruling the mmo market

Just as today

Not an unreasonable prediction.

Almost certainly better than 90% of those made on these forums daily.

*applauds*

However - I do wonder about Titan. If it's SciFi - is there enough love of the genre to match the established Fantasy fanbase?

I have no idea - but it's something to consider.

  SlyLoK

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4/09/13 9:42:29 AM#48
I would have rather seen Mark Jacobs recreate Magestorm instead of a DAoC Lite... I really wish another game like Magestorm  / Spellbinder would come along again.
  ThomasN7

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4/09/13 9:46:27 AM#49
Well first CU needs to get funded. My opinion is this though. Once this game fails so hard you'll be having more people coming to play CU because they will want their fill of real RVR combat. 
  Soki123

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4/09/13 9:48:39 AM#50
Originally posted by Nanfoodle

Im a hard core DAoC fan and CU is not enough of a MMO to make me even care to look into it much past the fact there is no PvE. No open world dungeons or lands to explore and enjoy with the fear of being attacked by players. CU IMO is not a MMO, its a battle ground taken from a great MMO. 15 bucks a month to play a battleground. ESO has 10 times more content and 3 faction DAoC RvR. As a DAoC fan this is a easy choice.

Can t disagree here.

  meddyck

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4/09/13 9:48:42 AM#51
Originally posted by baphamet


Originally posted by meddyck

 

That's easy. It will offer levelling and gear grinding first plus it will have different mechanics that may appeal more to former DAOC players


so by offering less content (no PVE) that somehow means it offers more?

i guess if you are a fan of moba games or fps shooters that may appeal to you more than TESO would.

as a fan of both Daoc and TES, i want pve in my game too. i am not saying i wouldn't give CU a try if it did its pvp really well but i just don't see what that game would offer that TESO will not, other than being a newer game and doing things a little differently.

The topic of this thread is about TESO vs CU so it goes without saying this is mainly about people who are focused on RvR/AvA/Tri-Realm. People like, for instance, me. There are tons of MMOs that have PvE. There's no reason somebody couldn't RvR in CU and PvE in, for instance, GW 2, TESO, EQ Next, or whatever else is popular in 2015.

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  alterfenix

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4/09/13 10:08:09 AM#52
Originally posted by meddyck
Originally posted by baphamet


Originally posted by meddyck

 

That's easy. It will offer levelling and gear grinding first plus it will have different mechanics that may appeal more to former DAOC players


so by offering less content (no PVE) that somehow means it offers more?

i guess if you are a fan of moba games or fps shooters that may appeal to you more than TESO would.

as a fan of both Daoc and TES, i want pve in my game too. i am not saying i wouldn't give CU a try if it did its pvp really well but i just don't see what that game would offer that TESO will not, other than being a newer game and doing things a little differently.

The topic of this thread is about TESO vs CU so it goes without saying this is mainly about people who are focused on RvR/AvA/Tri-Realm. People like, for instance, me. There are tons of MMOs that have PvE. There's no reason somebody couldn't RvR in CU and PvE in, for instance, GW 2, TESO, EQ Next, or whatever else is popular in 2015.

Yeah but then if to PvE in TESO and PvP in CU... Why not to simply do both in TESO? Point is we don't know how RvR in TESO will work out and if it does then playing simply one game may give more less same with much less effort. I mean even switching apps with alt-tab can be for some a problem (I'd guess that for most).

  Greez

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4/09/13 10:09:48 AM#53
I don't feel great about this game atm, regardless of what happens with CU.
Originally posted by alterfenix

Yeah but then if to PvE in TESO and PvP in CU... Why not to simply do both in TESO?

Level of quality?

  Soki123

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4/09/13 10:14:40 AM#54
Originally posted by meddyck
Originally posted by baphamet


Originally posted by meddyck

 

That's easy. It will offer levelling and gear grinding first plus it will have different mechanics that may appeal more to former DAOC players


so by offering less content (no PVE) that somehow means it offers more?

i guess if you are a fan of moba games or fps shooters that may appeal to you more than TESO would.

as a fan of both Daoc and TES, i want pve in my game too. i am not saying i wouldn't give CU a try if it did its pvp really well but i just don't see what that game would offer that TESO will not, other than being a newer game and doing things a little differently.

The topic of this thread is about TESO vs CU so it goes without saying this is mainly about people who are focused on RvR/AvA/Tri-Realm. People like, for instance, me. There are tons of MMOs that have PvE. There's no reason somebody couldn't RvR in CU and PvE in, for instance, GW 2, TESO, EQ Next, or whatever else is popular in 2015.

I personally liked the charm of the pve in DAOC. Leveling up through camping spots, DF runs, Epic armor quest chain, Dragon raids, I could go on. TOA aside, I actually loved the pve in DAOC. A little of that mixed in with the great RvR, IMO, made DAOC the game it was. Not saying CU won t be fun, if it releases, but I truly think ESO will have that charm. Hopefully they add an epic quest gear chain type thing. I ve always liked those in game. Every few levels, you do a quest to give you a damn good set of gear when you hit end game, and the quests you re doing give you something for that level.

 

  baphamet

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4/09/13 7:10:02 PM#55


Originally posted by Normandy7
Well first CU needs to get funded. My opinion is this though. Once this game fails so hard you'll be having more people coming to play CU because they will want their fill of real RVR combat. 

and what will make their combat "real" rvr combat?

if CU launches it will fail just as hard as this one, except it wont have near the numbers before or after it "fails"

  Aori

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4/09/13 7:12:44 PM#56
TESO will remain the same, it'll start high and plummet into the ground. CU isn't coming, its a dream someone had and hes trying to see how far he can run with it.
  baphamet

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4/09/13 7:16:28 PM#57


Originally posted by meddyck

Originally posted by baphamet

Originally posted by meddyck   That's easy. It will offer levelling and gear grinding first plus it will have different mechanics that may appeal more to former DAOC players
so by offering less content (no PVE) that somehow means it offers more? i guess if you are a fan of moba games or fps shooters that may appeal to you more than TESO would. as a fan of both Daoc and TES, i want pve in my game too. i am not saying i wouldn't give CU a try if it did its pvp really well but i just don't see what that game would offer that TESO will not, other than being a newer game and doing things a little differently.
The topic of this thread is about TESO vs CU so it goes without saying this is mainly about people who are focused on RvR/AvA/Tri-Realm. People like, for instance, me. There are tons of MMOs that have PvE. There's no reason somebody couldn't RvR in CU and PvE in, for instance, GW 2, TESO, EQ Next, or whatever else is popular in 2015.

and why would they do this? why would they play CU over TESO if both games feature RVR pvp?

also, the topic of this thread did not mention only RvR combat, there was more to Daoc than just RvR for many people.

i want someone to tell me why CU will be so much better other than telling me because it wont have PVE.


  nationalcity

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4/09/13 7:16:49 PM#58

Umm lets see considering this game actually has PVE/RVR/PVP I would say its gonna be just fine....

The people that want just RVR will be playing CU the ones that want more then that will be here or whatever MMO they desire I mean its not like CU is gonna take over every other MMO....

I'm sure some people will be playing both CU and another MMO just to get there PVE fix....

I mean the brand alone on this game is gonna bring in players for at least the first month now after the honeymoon period is over we shall see how many are left......

This thread makes it sound like once CU comes out every other game is gonna be devoid of players and everyone will flock to CU. I mean personally I won't be one of them I don't want just RVR but that's just me and I'm sure I'm not alone.......

 

I'm happy for the people that are getting CU but I really don't see it making a dent in the playerbase of any other MMO considering it's gonna be pretty niche.....

 

 

 

 

 

  baphamet

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4/09/13 7:18:01 PM#59


Originally posted by Greez
I don't feel great about this game atm, regardless of what happens with CU.

Originally posted by alterfenix Yeah but then if to PvE in TESO and PvP in CU... Why not to simply do both in TESO?
Level of quality?

so you are saying CU will be a more quality game? based on what information exactly?

  MyTabbycat

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4/09/13 7:55:14 PM#60

Didn't the guy making CU say that if it got funded he could make it within six months to a year?

That sort of tells me it's not going to be much of a game.

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