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  Fearum

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4/05/13 10:38:57 PM#21
Originally posted by naezgul
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

No different than what they do in front of a boardroom 

Except the board room isnt going to make them add panda's or anything else to bring in more kids, because there is no boardroom.

  naezgul

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4/05/13 10:46:13 PM#22
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by naezgul
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

No different than what they do in front of a boardroom 

Except the board room isnt going to make them add panda's or anything else to bring in more kids, because there is no boardroom.

I meant anyone trying to pitch an idea to a large company or investors.

kickstarter targets the end user.

  Sebali

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4/05/13 11:18:17 PM#23
Originally posted by naezgul
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by naezgul
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

No different than what they do in front of a boardroom 

Except the board room isnt going to make them add panda's or anything else to bring in more kids, because there is no boardroom.

I meant anyone trying to pitch an idea to a large company or investors.

kickstarter targets the end user.

but we are not investers. we are just giving them money and get acess to a few pixels if we give them even more money. we dont get paid if the game takes off.

 

every other kickstarter i have seen the game atleast has a working prototype and in most cases are in alpha state.

this game doesnt even have a name yet. 

 

its basically been "we're gonna create a rvr game. give me some other ideas to put into it and oh...gimme money too"

 

  dreamer05

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4/05/13 11:23:06 PM#24
Looking forward to it based on my love of DAoC.  And I really don't understand the people complaining about the kickstart.  I'm very much looking forward to this game but haven't invested in the kickstart.  Thats the point you really don't have to, so why are people who aren't even interested in the game complaining about the kickstart?

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  evil13

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4/05/13 11:27:54 PM#25

"Im not trolling at all i love the idea of the game will likely play it when it comes out"

This just it - the game isn't going to come out unless it gets backed. CSE is asking the market (that would be us, the players) to tell them what we want. If there is enough interest, they will make it, if there isn't... well, why make a game that people don't want to play?

 

So the current kickstarter is as much a vote for the actual game (which doesn't exist beyond concepts and ideas atm) as it is a vote for the concept the game is based on - tri-realm RvR with little to no focus on PvE.  If that's a game you want to play, well, better back this up because no one else is making this type of a game.

  Fearum

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4/05/13 11:29:51 PM#26
Originally posted by dreamer05
Looking forward to it based on my love of DAoC.  And I really don't understand the people complaining about the kickstart.  I'm very much looking forward to this game but haven't invested in the kickstart.  Thats the point you really don't have to, so why are people who aren't even interested in the game complaining about the kickstart?

They are probably shills for some large publisher and fear what could happen if games are actually made and even maybe succeed without big money backing them that people would stop falling for reskinned sequels.

  Rhoklaw

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4/05/13 11:57:35 PM#27
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by dreamer05
Looking forward to it based on my love of DAoC.  And I really don't understand the people complaining about the kickstart.  I'm very much looking forward to this game but haven't invested in the kickstart.  Thats the point you really don't have to, so why are people who aren't even interested in the game complaining about the kickstart?

They are probably shills for some large publisher and fear what could happen if games are actually made and even maybe succeed without big money backing them that people would stop falling for reskinned sequels.

Ahh, the interwebs are full of lies, secrets and mischievous. However, we all know viral marketing exists and we also know other companies reverse it with their false propaganda for fear of their revenue decreasings. So yes, you basically nailed it on the head.

  PerfArt

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4/06/13 12:06:17 AM#28
Honestly, we are all just hyped up because we are idiotic troglodytes that don't possess the cognitive capacities of most other mmorpg forum posters and have all been snared by a magical form of hype-notism for which there is no precedence. We are all very sorry for inconveniencing you, and will soon be gone so that you can return to your regularly scheduled forum wars based upon unreleased games that have gameplay videos up that completely let you know how a game will play and thus matter more than design concepts that interest us (in an obviously misguided fashion.)

It took this to make me realize how foolish I have been. I am sorry that concepts excite me more than "proven" gameplay videos deciphered by expert video analysts. I made the mistake of believing in a concept that will never see fruition unless I believe in it, rather than hovering on the sidelines bitching about every game that doesn't meet the exact criteria of the dream game I am not willing to pay for. I am sorry that I think service should deserve payment.

I also don't hover over a live feed on a mmorpg forum and chime in just because it is attracting the most activity. I would ask why the copycat themepark mmos aren't attracting similar interests here, but then I remember that this is a dedicated mmorpg forum, and that the fact that this game is attracting this negative attention, even in pre-production, is indicative of the levels of banality and homogenization the genre has reached. That is my, and I dare say OUR bad. We should not have usurped your very meaningful forum power. Ironically, I didn't give a SHIT about your forum dynamics. I just wanted to talk about the game. Really. So effing sorry. We weren't trying to mess with anyone.

We didn't realize that it was stupid to believe in a brilliant concept. But thanks to the efforts of forum warriors that defend the sanctity of tried-and-true forum wars, we will go ahead and forget about what we love about this game concept and replace it with jaded cynicism. Does that make you less annoyed?

Don't think too harshly of us. We didn't know that there were rules for being interested.

Here's what's awesome. Us cluttering up your precious realtime feed is totally more annoying than us trying to talk amongst one another and being attacked for it. IN A DEDICATED FORUM.

I know this might be crazy, but maybe if you have a real problem with it, you should contact the site and petition for filters.

Oh, wait. Then what would you do for fun? Play games? Nah. Apparently they all suck.


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  Corinthian-X

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4/06/13 12:13:28 AM#29
Originally posted by PerfArt
Honestly, we are all just hyped up because we are idiotic troglodytes that don't possess the cognitive capacities of most other mmorpg forum posters and have all been snared by a magical form of hype-notism for which there is no precedence. We are all very sorry for inconveniencing you, and will soon be gone so that you can return to your regularly scheduled forum wars based upon unreleased games that have gameplay videos up that completely let you know how a game will play and thus matter more than design concepts that interest us (in an obviously misguided fashion.)

It took this to make me realize how foolish I have been. I am sorry that concepts excite me more than "proven" gameplay videos deciphered by expert video analysts. I made the mistake of believing in a concept that will never see fruition unless I believe in it, rather than hovering on the sidelines bitching about every game that doesn't meet the exact criteria of the dream game I am not willing to pay for. I am sorry that I think service should deserve payment.

I also don't hover over a live feed on a mmorpg forum and chime in just because it is attracting the most activity. I would ask why the copycat themepark mmos aren't attracting similar interests here, but then I remember that this is a dedicated mmorpg forum, and that the fact that this game is attracting this negative attention, even in pre-production, is indicative of the levels of banality and homogenization the genre has reached. That is my, and I dare say OUR bad. We should not have usurped your very meaningful forum power. Ironically, I didn't give a SHIT about your forum dynamics. I just wanted to talk about the game. Really. So effing sorry. We weren't trying to mess with anyone.

We didn't realize that it was stupid to believe in a brilliant concept. But thanks to the efforts of forum warriors that defend the sanctity of tried-and-true forum wars, we will go ahead and forget about what we love about this game concept and replace it with jaded cynicism. Does that make you less annoyed?

Don't think too harshly of us. We didn't know that there were rules for being interested.

Here's what's awesome. Us cluttering up your precious realtime feed is totally more annoying than us trying to talk amongst one another and being attacked for it. IN A DEDICATED FORUM.

I know this might be crazy, but maybe if you have a real problem with it, you should contact the site and petition for filters.

Oh, wait. Then what would you do for fun? Play games? Nah. Apparently they all suck.


 

 

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  Slampig

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4/06/13 12:21:39 AM#30
Originally posted by Beerman27

All i can see is this game has some art and a kickstarter and some whispers of ideas with a heap of added assumption?

am i missing something here? i cant see why this idea of a mmo is so hyped up whats the development time? from the look of the website its 4 years away.

How do you figure this out?

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  Slampig

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4/06/13 12:23:16 AM#31
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by naezgul
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

No different than what they do in front of a boardroom 

Except the board room isnt going to make them add panda's or anything else to bring in more kids, because there is no boardroom.

*Yawn*

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  Arbroath

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4/06/13 1:54:45 AM#32

I find it amazing that people won't back a brilliant concept for a game being developed by a proven dev. The fact that a $25 investment, which includes the game at launch, is met with souch anxiety is baffeling. Instead you are drawn to games backed by large budget publishers who show you snippets of exactly what you need to see to be sucked in. It's like movie previews. You see the preview and think what a great freaking movie. But when you get there you realize they showed you the best parts, and the rest is complete fucking rubbish. But you see the pretty graphics, the dazzling effects, and the ad banners around every screen and you let yourselves get tricked....again. I did the same thing with GW2. The game is shite. You get to the end and there is fuck all to do. But they presented it so very well. It was a must have game...couldn't loose. Well I fucking lost. Because it sucks. And I "invested" $60 in that steaming heap of shit. 

excuse me while I refill my whisky...

And now I have an oppertunity to spend as little as $25 on a game that has so much potential, even if it's only in concept atm. I'm sick of being a corporate sheep. I'd rather take the risk (which I don't feel much at all) to see a concept I believe in to fruition. 

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  Icewhite

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4/06/13 2:09:42 AM#33

Many years and much hard work to go; the self-evident point of this thread?

But don't underestimate the power of the pre-built fanbase carryover from a previous game(s) -- remember what Blizzard did with theirs?

 

 

 

You are are currently using a marketing engine's free message board. See the advertisements?

<----Games listed (individually!) over there? Interviews with developers, articles about gaming, etc?

From time to time, you will encounter "Hype", from various titles upon this site. Something else that, perhaps, could be considered more fodder for Captain Obvious.

If you intensely dislike "hype"--common sense would suggest closing your browser now, or at least navigating it to some other location on the internet.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  gylnne

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4/06/13 4:43:40 AM#34
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

Sebali do you understand what kickstarter is for? It is a platform to raise money to make something, which in turn you usually get something for your support, game at reduce price, etc.

I have scoured kickstarter in the gaming area and many developers wanting help creating a game have no more than art work, etc. posted.

I don't know what you consider hype. My excitement stems from Mark Jacobs Foundational Principles he will create CU with.

Just the kind of game I have been looking for.:)

  Ogrelin

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4/06/13 4:51:05 AM#35

If you are wondering what we are exited about, and why we are spreading the word about a game we haven't seen yet it's because we LIKE the ideas the persons behind CU has presented to us.

And it's a natural part of a KS for the backers to try to spread the word about the project so that is becomes funded.

You don't see this from fanboys (Yes we are) to other games because they don't have to promote their game to make it a reality.

  Sebali

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4/06/13 11:28:55 AM#36
Originally posted by gylnne
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

Sebali do you understand what kickstarter is for? It is a platform to raise money to make something, which in turn you usually get something for your support, game at reduce price, etc.

I have scoured kickstarter in the gaming area and many developers wanting help creating a game have no more than art work, etc. posted.

I don't know what you consider hype. My excitement stems from Mark Jacobs Foundational Principles he will create CU with.

Just the kind of game I have been looking for.:)

i get what kickstarter is and am all for it. this thread, however, asks why the hype.

so im pointing out that this game his hyped to all hell yell they dont have such things as pree alpha footage, concept art, direction beyond 3 real rvr...hell they dont even have a name.

 

yet its being hyped and people are donating. I dont get it. and ill say again, all other kickstarters i have seen the devs actually had a working product. they already had their own ideas theire own concept.

these guys have squat

  Rhoklaw

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4/06/13 11:38:09 AM#37
Originally posted by Sebali
Originally posted by gylnne
Originally posted by Sebali

I dont get the hype either.

 

all we have seen is ideas and promises. 

they have a website that has nothing on it but them begging for cash and "principles"

c'mon.

they are at the most infantile stages of this game. they have ZERO hyet they are begging for cash

 

Sebali do you understand what kickstarter is for? It is a platform to raise money to make something, which in turn you usually get something for your support, game at reduce price, etc.

I have scoured kickstarter in the gaming area and many developers wanting help creating a game have no more than art work, etc. posted.

I don't know what you consider hype. My excitement stems from Mark Jacobs Foundational Principles he will create CU with.

Just the kind of game I have been looking for.:)

i get what kickstarter is and am all for it. this thread, however, asks why the hype.

so im pointing out that this game his hyped to all hell yell they dont have such things as pree alpha footage, concept art, direction beyond 3 real rvr...hell they dont even have a name.

 

yet its being hyped and people are donating. I dont get it. and ill say again, all other kickstarters i have seen the devs actually had a working product. they already had their own ideas theire own concept.

these guys have squat

Go watch some DAoC RvR videos, throw in a new engine, add in a crafting system that actually gives crafters the credit their due and now you'll understand what CU is.

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4/06/13 11:39:05 AM#38
Originally posted by Beerman27

All i can see is this game has some art and a kickstarter and some whispers of ideas with a heap of added assumption?

am i missing something here? i cant see why this idea of a mmo is so hyped up whats the development time? from the look of the website its 4 years away.

everyone who played DAoC is hoping for a similiar good work :) thats it

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4/06/13 11:48:19 AM#39
Originally posted by Beerman27
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

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Yep it sure does have a website.

You could, you know, read the kickstarter page and everything is answered for you. 2015 is date. 2 is not 5. Simple math.

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4/06/13 11:58:46 AM#40

  I watched the recent video with the "man" telling me why this game is going to be so great. I do like some of the ideas of the game, but (and you knew there was gin gto be a but) the crafting concept, right now, just does not play out basaed on how I am understanding the concept.

 

  As far as "why so much hype" goes.... it has brought back the memories of the "Good Ol'days". What many will find out though.... there is a reason they are the "Good Ol'days".  

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