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  Eir_S

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4/05/13 4:49:02 PM#21
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Kryptonite_Hilo
Originally posted by Eir_S
Not going to pay money for a game I have no interest in to get rid of people who are just having fun on their forums.  It used to bother me, but I'm getting used to it.  :p

Things like this make zero sense to me. Why do people ream forums from other games in which they have zero interest in? It'd be like me watching an entire season of the Kardashians.

You're probably the 10th person I've seen that doesn't know about the updating front page thread list.  Here's a hint: Go look.

Just because you see it scroll across the feed doesn't mean you have to click on it and start posting negative comments. I'm not going to play Arche Age because it just doesn't really interest me, but I don't click on every AA thread I see on the feed and feel the need to post in them. 

I didn't post a negative comment.... it was actually positive.  Are you defensive or what?

Seeing as this thread is directed at people who are supposedly tired of seeing CU fans talk about their anticipated game, the posts that suggest we weren't supposed to even see it confuse the hell out of me.

  syntax42

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Joined: 3/30/07
Posts: 1148

4/05/13 4:52:31 PM#22

So, what the OP is saying, is if I start a good enough spam campaign, he will buy whatever I'm selling or give me money to be quiet.

Here goes:

 

Greetings, friends. Do you wish to look as happy as me? Well, you've got the power inside you right now. So, use it, and send one dollar to Happy Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. Don't delay, eternal happiness is just a dollar away.

 

Spread the word so I can make lots of people happy!

  User Deleted
4/05/13 4:55:51 PM#23
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
You just seem awfully negative in most of your posts. Maybe it's just that you're anti-kickstarter, but still.. why do you guys feel the need to constantly try to rain on our parade?

No one is trying to rain on your parade.

Just think of me as the "red pill".

 

I take it you're alluding to the red pill because it's the "real world as it is" or whatever? But doesn't he also have to take a leap of faith by picking it over the safety of the blue pill?

Regardless, there is a whole lot of hate on these forums. I hate plenty of games and/or upcoming games/projects, but I don't waste my time going to their forums and letting everyone know about it.

I just think people are getting way too overexcited for this game and not always thinking clearly. I get the fact that the MMO genre is a wasteland right now, but that's no reason to latch on to anything that comes along. Anyone who has watched MJ over the years, knows he talks like a politician.

People have been talking about this game in very specific terms, even alluding that it's DAoC 2.0.

Yet, if you look at the CU site, there is nothing there except for a document of ideas under the menu heading of "Features" and a few test runs of certain tech "proof-of concept" items. I don't know about you, but I expect features to be a bit more fleshed out than that before I start considering them as features.

Hurdle #1: The game is not funded. There are no guarantees it will. If you watch Kickstarters and how they work (I do), you will notice that the majority of funding happens in the first few days and trickles in after that. That does not bode well for CU unless there are a lot of latecomers. I find that hard to believe considering the hype people have been giving it. My guess is that most of the fans have already donated and they goal is not even halfway met.

Hurdle #2: There are no guarantees the foundational principles outlined will translate to what you want them to be. Everyone is speculating at this point. I can almost visualize an alpha release when everyone goes, "WTF! This is not what you said this game would be!", when in fact, they have said what amounts to nothing and made no concrete promises.

Now I'm not saying you shouldn't donate to the game, but just don't get too hyped because the odds are stacked against most Kickstarters.

 

  collekt

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Joined: 2/05/13
Posts: 210

4/05/13 4:56:50 PM#24
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Kryptonite_Hilo
Originally posted by Eir_S
Not going to pay money for a game I have no interest in to get rid of people who are just having fun on their forums.  It used to bother me, but I'm getting used to it.  :p

Things like this make zero sense to me. Why do people ream forums from other games in which they have zero interest in? It'd be like me watching an entire season of the Kardashians.

You're probably the 10th person I've seen that doesn't know about the updating front page thread list.  Here's a hint: Go look.

Just because you see it scroll across the feed doesn't mean you have to click on it and start posting negative comments. I'm not going to play Arche Age because it just doesn't really interest me, but I don't click on every AA thread I see on the feed and feel the need to post in them. 

I didn't post a negative comment.... it was actually positive.  Are you defensive or what?

Seeing as this thread is directed at people who are supposedly tired of seeing CU fans talk about their anticipated game, the posts that suggest we weren't supposed to even see it confuse the hell out of me.

I wasn't necessarily implying that you said something negative, but you commented about people not knowing about the feed. I was just pointing out that even though CU threads scroll across the feed, that doesn't mean people have to click on them if they aren't interested in the game. Does it really bother people that much to see threads for a possible future MMORPG scroll across the feed of MMORPG.COM? 

  Wakygreek

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Joined: 4/30/08
Posts: 1244

Reason is a necessity

4/05/13 4:58:16 PM#25
Originally posted by syntax42

So, what the OP is saying, is if I start a good enough spam campaign, he will buy whatever I'm selling or give me money to be quiet.

Here goes:

 

Greetings, friends. Do you wish to look as happy as me? Well, you've got the power inside you right now. So, use it, and send one dollar to Happy Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. Don't delay, eternal happiness is just a dollar away.

 

Spread the word so I can make lots of people happy!

When I read this, the first thing I thought of were those in game adds from the Bioshock Franchise. Something a long the lines of "Coffee! If your not shaking you need another cup!" or " Coffee! You can sleep when your dead!" etc..

Maybe its because I am playing Bioshock Infinite and went there, not sure why TBH. As far as CU, I want it to release. I just refuse to donate money to something that is not solid yet.

  Stromm

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Joined: 4/14/06
Posts: 250

4/05/13 4:58:29 PM#26
Originally posted by Xobdnas

 


Originally posted by Stromm

Originally posted by Xobdnas After much meditation I came to the conclusion of how to get us to stop raving about CU so things can go back to the normal hate filled ranting that is the world of internet forums. First one must look at why we are talking about CU so much. 2 reasons, 1. Were all excited about the KS launching so were buzzing about it. 2. We want it to fund, so we want to help it fund, so we promote it to get it funding. The sooner CU funds the sooner we can stop promoting it and the sooner we get our own CU forum. This is where you come in. If all of the people that are sick of us chip into the KS, CU funds faster. So, by doing this, you can be proactive and literally help get rid of us yourself. Our fate is in your hands (talk about irony amiright). It's all up to you. Don't let yourselves down! BAM common ground common sense Solution! Man I should run for office.
Gadzukes! You're right! Why didn't I see this before!

 

...

waaaiiittt a sec ...

Is this a trap!? You cunning devil.


 

(waves hand infront of Stromm's face)

These are not the droi...er, um, there is no trap...

Stromm: It's a trap! Take evasive action!

Xobdnas: Too late, you are in range of this Fully Operational Kickstarter! *evil sith cackle*

  collekt

Novice Member

Joined: 2/05/13
Posts: 210

4/05/13 5:00:07 PM#27
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
You just seem awfully negative in most of your posts. Maybe it's just that you're anti-kickstarter, but still.. why do you guys feel the need to constantly try to rain on our parade?

No one is trying to rain on your parade.

Just think of me as the "red pill".

 

I take it you're alluding to the red pill because it's the "real world as it is" or whatever? But doesn't he also have to take a leap of faith by picking it over the safety of the blue pill?

Regardless, there is a whole lot of hate on these forums. I hate plenty of games and/or upcoming games/projects, but I don't waste my time going to their forums and letting everyone know about it.

I just think people are getting way too overexcited for this game and not always thinking clearly. I get the fact that the MMO genre is a wasteland right now, but that's no reason to latch on to anything that comes along. Anyone who has watched MJ over the years, knows he talks like a politician.

People have been talking about this game in very specific terms, even alluding that it's DAoC 2.0.

Yet, if you look at the CU site, there is nothing there except for a document of ideas under the menu heading of "Features" and a few test runs of certain tech "proof-of concept" items. I don't know about you, but I expect features to be a bit more fleshed out than that before I start considering them as features.

Hurdle #1: The game is not funded. There are no guarantees it will. If you watch Kickstarters and how they work (I do), you will notice that the majority of funding happens in the first few days and trickles in after that. That does not bode well for CU unless there are a lot of latecomers. I find that hard to believe considering the hype people have been giving it. My guess is that most of the fans have already donated and they goal is not even halfway met.

Hurdle #2: There are no guarantees the foundational principles outlined will translate to what you want them to be. Everyone is speculating at this point. I can almost visualize an alpha release when everyone goes, "WTF! This is not what you said this game would be!", when in fact, they have said what amounts to nothing and made no concrete promises.

Now I'm not saying you shouldn't donate to the game, but just don't get too hyped because the odds are stacked against most Kickstarters.

 

I can understand what you're saying here, but at the same time why must it be your mission to ensure that people not get too excited? This is the nature of MMOs, and the hype cycle isn't going to stop any time soon. If people are excited about something, just let them be excited. It's not hurting you or anyone else that I'm pumped about a possible new MMO.

  BowbowDAoC

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Joined: 5/11/10
Posts: 482

4/05/13 5:00:48 PM#28
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Kryptonite_Hilo
Originally posted by Eir_S
Not going to pay money for a game I have no interest in to get rid of people who are just having fun on their forums.  It used to bother me, but I'm getting used to it.  :p

Things like this make zero sense to me. Why do people ream forums from other games in which they have zero interest in? It'd be like me watching an entire season of the Kardashians.

You're probably the 10th person I've seen that doesn't know about the updating front page thread list.  Here's a hint: Go look.

Here's a few quotes from our dear Eir_s :

"There used to be more hype, I think people realized that with all the other games out that look similar and probably play even more similarly, it's not a huge deal.  At least, that's what I've come to think anyway.  It's another "shiny" Korean button masher.  I've already got TERA, RaiderZ, and Dragon Nest on my pc.. I don't care about B&S anymore."

And yet when a company wants to offer something totally different, you're still complaining

 

(top 3 games you,re looking forward) 

#1 Wildstar

#2 Neverwinter

#3 ........ This list looks like crap.

I'm look forward to because: Because I want a game that's got fun PvE.  PvP and innovation don't matter to me if it meets this sole criterion.

MMO I'm currently playing: Path of Exile.

Then it makes me wonder a few things, why do you lurk on a game's forum that wants to bring innovation, where there will be tons of PvP, and that no PvE is planned ?

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

 

 

Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4703

GW2 socialist.

4/05/13 5:01:06 PM#29
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Kryptonite_Hilo
Originally posted by Eir_S
Not going to pay money for a game I have no interest in to get rid of people who are just having fun on their forums.  It used to bother me, but I'm getting used to it.  :p

Things like this make zero sense to me. Why do people ream forums from other games in which they have zero interest in? It'd be like me watching an entire season of the Kardashians.

You're probably the 10th person I've seen that doesn't know about the updating front page thread list.  Here's a hint: Go look.

Just because you see it scroll across the feed doesn't mean you have to click on it and start posting negative comments. I'm not going to play Arche Age because it just doesn't really interest me, but I don't click on every AA thread I see on the feed and feel the need to post in them. 

I didn't post a negative comment.... it was actually positive.  Are you defensive or what?

Seeing as this thread is directed at people who are supposedly tired of seeing CU fans talk about their anticipated game, the posts that suggest we weren't supposed to even see it confuse the hell out of me.

I wasn't necessarily implying that you said something negative, but you commented about people not knowing about the feed. I was just pointing out that even though CU threads scroll across the feed, that doesn't mean people have to click on them if they aren't interested in the game. Does it really bother people that much to see threads for a possible future MMORPG scroll across the feed of MMORPG.COM? 

Are you even reading my posts or someone else's?  Where did I say I was bothered by it?  All I did was comment to a thread directed at me.  Now go and count how many of the theorycrafting threads I've posted in.  You won't find many posts.  No one "has" to post anywhere, I post where I want because as far as I know, it's still a free world.  I've said it before, I'm glad CU fans are so giddy right now, and I hope their faith is not misplaced, I just told the OP, who specifically asked for people to fund CU, that I wasn't going to go that far over something that doesn't really bother me.

I think it's more negative to start bashing me for daring to share my opinion, then harrassing me about it too.  I'm not sure what you want, but since I'm not a CU fan and I answered OP's question, I'll get out of here before you put the boots to me some more.

  Kyleran

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Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19149

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4/05/13 5:04:51 PM#30
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
You just seem awfully negative in most of your posts. Maybe it's just that you're anti-kickstarter, but still.. why do you guys feel the need to constantly try to rain on our parade?

No one is trying to rain on your parade.

Just think of me as the "red pill".

 

I take it you're alluding to the red pill because it's the "real world as it is" or whatever? But doesn't he also have to take a leap of faith by picking it over the safety of the blue pill?

Regardless, there is a whole lot of hate on these forums. I hate plenty of games and/or upcoming games/projects, but I don't waste my time going to their forums and letting everyone know about it.

Some folks enjoy forum PVP, some don't, it isn't personal.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, you speak as if these are bad things?
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
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  BeansnBread

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4/05/13 5:05:26 PM#31
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

Yeah, sorry Eir. He's right. Unless you are playing a video game 24/7, that game is not good enough for you.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  User Deleted
4/05/13 5:13:13 PM#32
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
You just seem awfully negative in most of your posts. Maybe it's just that you're anti-kickstarter, but still.. why do you guys feel the need to constantly try to rain on our parade?

No one is trying to rain on your parade.

Just think of me as the "red pill".

 

I take it you're alluding to the red pill because it's the "real world as it is" or whatever? But doesn't he also have to take a leap of faith by picking it over the safety of the blue pill?

Regardless, there is a whole lot of hate on these forums. I hate plenty of games and/or upcoming games/projects, but I don't waste my time going to their forums and letting everyone know about it.

I just think people are getting way too overexcited for this game and not always thinking clearly. I get the fact that the MMO genre is a wasteland right now, but that's no reason to latch on to anything that comes along. Anyone who has watched MJ over the years, knows he talks like a politician.

People have been talking about this game in very specific terms, even alluding that it's DAoC 2.0.

Yet, if you look at the CU site, there is nothing there except for a document of ideas under the menu heading of "Features" and a few test runs of certain tech "proof-of concept" items. I don't know about you, but I expect features to be a bit more fleshed out than that before I start considering them as features.

Hurdle #1: The game is not funded. There are no guarantees it will. If you watch Kickstarters and how they work (I do), you will notice that the majority of funding happens in the first few days and trickles in after that. That does not bode well for CU unless there are a lot of latecomers. I find that hard to believe considering the hype people have been giving it. My guess is that most of the fans have already donated and they goal is not even halfway met.

Hurdle #2: There are no guarantees the foundational principles outlined will translate to what you want them to be. Everyone is speculating at this point. I can almost visualize an alpha release when everyone goes, "WTF! This is not what you said this game would be!", when in fact, they have said what amounts to nothing and made no concrete promises.

Now I'm not saying you shouldn't donate to the game, but just don't get too hyped because the odds are stacked against most Kickstarters.

 

I can understand what you're saying here, but at the same time why must it be your mission to ensure that people not get too excited? This is the nature of MMOs, and the hype cycle isn't going to stop any time soon. If people are excited about something, just let them be excited. It's not hurting you or anyone else that I'm pumped about a possible new MMO.

Except that the rest of the community here will have to listen to the deluge of whining and crying on these forums if it fails. If people think the hype train is full to capacity, wait until the possible disappointment train leaves the station. If you can guarantee people will walk away without drama, then I'll stop trying to keep people rooted in reality.

I like to read these forums too and I don't want to have to dig through hype and QQ just find out what else is going on in the genre. Who would?

  BowbowDAoC

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4/05/13 5:19:15 PM#33
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

Yeah, sorry Eir. He's right. Unless you are playing a video game 24/7, that game is not good enough for you.

When you prefer to spend time trolling rather than playing indeed.

Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR

  BeansnBread

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4/05/13 5:27:00 PM#34
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

Yeah, sorry Eir. He's right. Unless you are playing a video game 24/7, that game is not good enough for you.

When you prefer to spend time trolling rather than playing indeed.

Trolling to you. Just stating his/her opinion to them.

 

You guys are losing your shit over this troll stuff right now. I mean, it sounds desperate. Now you are even accusing people of not liking games that they state they like because they are commenting on a forum. I have to wonder how trollish you view your own comment.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  collekt

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Posts: 210

4/05/13 5:27:04 PM#35
Originally posted by topographic

Except that the rest of the community here will have to listen to the deluge of whining and crying on these forums if it fails. If people think the hype train is full to capacity, wait until the possible disappointment train leaves the station. If you can guarantee people will walk away without drama, then I'll stop trying to keep people rooted in reality.

I like to read these forums too and I don't want to have to dig through hype and QQ just find out what else is going on in the genre. Who would?

This is an MMORPG forum. If you think this place will ever be free of hype and QQ then you sir are the one that needs to be brought back to reality. I mean, there is a hype meter on the front page of the website. 

  User Deleted
4/05/13 5:36:06 PM#36
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic

Except that the rest of the community here will have to listen to the deluge of whining and crying on these forums if it fails. If people think the hype train is full to capacity, wait until the possible disappointment train leaves the station. If you can guarantee people will walk away without drama, then I'll stop trying to keep people rooted in reality.

I like to read these forums too and I don't want to have to dig through hype and QQ just find out what else is going on in the genre. Who would?

This is an MMORPG forum. If you think this place will ever be free of hype and QQ then you sir are the one that needs to be brought back to reality. I mean, there is a hype meter on the front page of the website. 

It's not a hype meter. It's a popularity meter. They mis-labeled it.

Personally, I think the "hype" meter should look like this:

OMG! It's the second coming! 

It's awesome! Just Buy it! 

A good find. 

Meh. 

This game sucks! 

 

  collekt

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Posts: 210

4/05/13 5:40:01 PM#37
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic

Except that the rest of the community here will have to listen to the deluge of whining and crying on these forums if it fails. If people think the hype train is full to capacity, wait until the possible disappointment train leaves the station. If you can guarantee people will walk away without drama, then I'll stop trying to keep people rooted in reality.

I like to read these forums too and I don't want to have to dig through hype and QQ just find out what else is going on in the genre. Who would?

This is an MMORPG forum. If you think this place will ever be free of hype and QQ then you sir are the one that needs to be brought back to reality. I mean, there is a hype meter on the front page of the website. 

It's not a hype meter. It's a popularity meter. They mis-labeled it.

Personally, I think the "hype" meter should look like this:

OMG! It's the second coming! 

It's awesome! Just Buy it! 

A good find. 

Meh. 

This game sucks! 

 

LOL nice one. Even so, you can't realistically expect people to not come here and hype whatever is the fotm game at the time. Your efforts of trying to bring them down to reality are pretty much futile. Internet message boards aren't the best place to look for the perfect community.

  BowbowDAoC

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4/05/13 5:40:50 PM#38
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

Yeah, sorry Eir. He's right. Unless you are playing a video game 24/7, that game is not good enough for you.

When you prefer to spend time trolling rather than playing indeed.

Trolling to you. Just stating his/her opinion to them.

 

You guys are losing your shit over this troll stuff right now. I mean, it sounds desperate. Now you are even accusing people of not liking games that they state they like because they are commenting on a forum. I have to wonder how trollish you view your own comment.

i just wonder why the likes of you hang around on boards concerning a game that they have no real interests in, its pointless, a waste of time, counterproductive. we were doing just fine before trolls invaded CU.

I mean seriously, why the hell do you guys do that ? its really beyond comprehension. Go be active positvely about a game that you like instead of this.

Added : i wont reply after this, not worth it :)

Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR

  User Deleted
4/05/13 5:43:08 PM#39
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic
Originally posted by collekt
Originally posted by topographic

Except that the rest of the community here will have to listen to the deluge of whining and crying on these forums if it fails. If people think the hype train is full to capacity, wait until the possible disappointment train leaves the station. If you can guarantee people will walk away without drama, then I'll stop trying to keep people rooted in reality.

I like to read these forums too and I don't want to have to dig through hype and QQ just find out what else is going on in the genre. Who would?

This is an MMORPG forum. If you think this place will ever be free of hype and QQ then you sir are the one that needs to be brought back to reality. I mean, there is a hype meter on the front page of the website. 

It's not a hype meter. It's a popularity meter. They mis-labeled it.

Personally, I think the "hype" meter should look like this:

OMG! It's the second coming! 

It's awesome! Just Buy it! 

A good find. 

Meh. 

This game sucks! 

 

LOL nice one. Even so, you can't realistically expect people to not come here and hype whatever is the fotm game at the time. Your efforts of trying to bring them down to reality are pretty much futile. Internet message boards aren't the best place to look for the perfect community.

Probably not. It won't stop me from trying however. That's just the way I am.

  BeansnBread

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Posts: 5551

4/05/13 5:47:48 PM#40
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by BowbowDAoC

Well i'll be nice and presume that even path of exile isnt good enough for you, since you're here instead of playing a game you supposely like. 

Yeah, sorry Eir. He's right. Unless you are playing a video game 24/7, that game is not good enough for you.

When you prefer to spend time trolling rather than playing indeed.

Trolling to you. Just stating his/her opinion to them.

 

You guys are losing your shit over this troll stuff right now. I mean, it sounds desperate. Now you are even accusing people of not liking games that they state they like because they are commenting on a forum. I have to wonder how trollish you view your own comment.

i just wonder why the likes of you hang around on boards concerning a game that they have no real interests in, its pointless, a waste of time, counterproductive. we were doing just fine before trolls invaded CU.

I mean seriously, why the hell do you guys do that ? its really beyond comprehension. Go be active positvely about a game that you like instead of this.

I know. Everyone is a troll except you and anyone that loves this game with their very soul. The people that happen to be blurting the term troll in everyone's face are of course innocent of being negative or trolling.

 

I am interested in this game. I'm just not interested in Kickstarting it or jumping on the bandwagon to the point of delirium before they give out anything tangible. I know that it must be difficult to believe that someone could be interested in something without throwing money at it, but they can be. 

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

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