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  Mystais

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4/05/13 8:34:30 AM#61

Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

Compared to

Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

 

Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

"This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

 

One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

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  botrytis

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4/05/13 8:49:40 AM#62

I am not kicking down CU - just kicking down all the hype is all. The game is not even in development and people think it is the next best thing since peanut butter. When you think about game development 4 million dollars is not alot of money to commit to such an ambitious game. But if the game looks like any of the tech demos - they better rethink what they are doing.

 

Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

 

Remember, the game isn't even IN DEVELOPMENT OR CODING and people are hyping it. We have had this problem with SWTOR and GW2 and the haters ran rampant over the fans. Now the rabid fans are hyping a VAPOURWARE game and wonder why people are reacting.

 

KICKSTARTER DOES NOT MEAN THE GAME WILL EVEN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.  Please wait to hype the game until a beta test has started.

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  Vannor

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4/05/13 8:56:13 AM#63

Hmm yeah.. seems like a lot in denial.

I'm sure you all love it (the idea of it that is) and it's support is pretty active on this site, but I don't think this game has anywhere near the popularity you think it does in the grand scheme of things.

  jdnewell

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4/05/13 8:58:58 AM#64

I have to agree about why worry about hype on a game thats only a concept at this point. IMO it really should not even be able to be voted up / down on any hype meter until its actually in development.

I am a big fan of this idea, but thats all it is really. Hopefully it will become more than an idea soon, until then I wouldnt worry about what a hype meter says.

  Mortify

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4/05/13 9:03:28 AM#65
Originally posted by botrytis

Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

 

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  Ziftylrhavic

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4/05/13 9:05:05 AM#66
Originally posted by jdnewell

I have to agree about why worry about hype on a game thats only a concept at this point. IMO it really should not even be able to be voted up / down on any hype meter until its actually in development.

I am a big fan of this idea, but thats all it is really. Hopefully it will become more than an idea soon, until then I wouldnt worry about what a hype meter says.

I agree with you, but the hype meter do allow CU to be known^^

 

Well maybe it mostly bring us trolls, but aren't they quite useful? They find flaws and argument to bring down CU than any other reader may have found but not said, thus allowing us to explain these shaddy points and get more people to be interested in the project.

  Joekra

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4/05/13 9:08:06 AM#67
In my opinion the devs didn't show anything to be excited about yet, so having a high hype is just wishful thinking anyway. Regardless, there are players who aren't totally into this game with zero actual gameplay details and OP thinks that's enough reason to call conspiracy on his beloved "game" (it's rather a concept right now, not even a game).
  headen

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4/05/13 9:08:40 AM#68

What's this Cameltoe Unchained game all about?

  botrytis

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4/05/13 9:10:44 AM#69
Originally posted by Mortify
Originally posted by botrytis

Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

 

Right - it is a concept currently. Until it is something I can see in front of me - I will reserve judgement.

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  Livnthedream

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4/05/13 9:18:51 AM#70
Originally posted by Mystais

Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

Compared to

Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

 

Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

"This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

 

One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

That is vaporware. If he has the tech he claims to have he could sell that to any number of studios/publishers for millions without touching his beloved ip and selling out to the man as he claims in his horribly biased marketing video.

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  Mystais

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4/05/13 9:45:55 AM#71
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Originally posted by Mystais

Well on one hand we have CU which has very little to show but is asking an awful lot.  Funny though that the developer already has 2-3 million but will not put it into developement unless he gets 2+ million from Kickstarter.

Compared to

Divergence Online which is being developed by one man who has already completed a vast majority of the game development  with little to no money and is only asking for $15,000 and may or may not even get that.

 

Divergence Online dev (Ethan):

"This is something I started with a couple friends back in 2006 who unfortunately went back to their day jobs within about three months while I stuck it out.  It's been something I've put my blood into every chance I got but the same crushing issue was always there... there's virtually no money."

Listen to this and decide who could use the helping hand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trpmoQnEDfA#!

 

One has done very little and asks for a lot and the other has done a lot and asks for very little.  You can guess who I'd hype and support.  But then again, I have a conscience.

That is vaporware. If he has the tech he claims to have he could sell that to any number of studios/publishers for millions without touching his beloved ip and selling out to the man as he claims in his horribly biased marketing video.

Thanks for the damning opinion.  Considering beta is set for July 2013, we'll know soon enough.  

Oh by the way, I did back CU as well but just hate to see one developer lost in the shadow of the other.  But I suppose there's only so much hype to go around.

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  Maephisto

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4/05/13 1:13:41 PM#72

You can only choose one thing:

--  Have a decent community with meaningful / interesting discussions.

--  OR --

--  Have a high "hype" score, and have a sub forum that resembles the TESO forums.  *shudders*

  Zinzan

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4/05/13 1:16:50 PM#73
Originally posted by Mortify
Originally posted by botrytis

Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

Funny that you say that, because that's EXACTLY what MJ is aiming for with CU.

 

I think this is something any rational person realises. DAoC for example was mainly populated by pve players who liked casual pvp.

the thing is, this small population is precisely the gamer demographic CU is aimed at, so it's a mute point really.

 

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  Nihilist

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4/05/13 2:04:11 PM#74

The hype meter lets people know how interested the users on mmorpg.com are about upcoming games.

 

The fact that this game has more hype than a lot of big games and similar hype to Archeage and TESO just shows you how much people around here are craving something new.

 

For a game this is 'only ideas and promises' it is doing amazingly well.


 

  neobahamut20

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4/05/13 2:10:26 PM#75
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings? I don't know about you guys, but I am super excited for this game, and so I gave it a 10/10 on the hype meter... I think if it was at the top, it would help the Kickstarter fund as well, hopefully people stop doing this, or what not, so it can stay at the top.... It's unfortunate that people are trying to keep it down on purpose. I wish there was something we could do about these false ratings, that are in favor of other games, or seem to be...

Is it really so important to you that "your game" is number one?

Will it make you a better person?

Will it "show everyone" that you are right?

Will you sleep better at night knowing you are waiting for the #1 on "MMORPG's hype meter"?

Do you not see the insignificance of your desires?

 

Why do you even care? it's only free publicity for a game, nothing more.

Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.

  Nihilist

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4/05/13 2:22:22 PM#76

If anything, it shows what little faith people have in AAA titles.

 

If a list of FPs and some concept art can get as much hype as TESO, then what does that say about the state of AAA games?

  JimmyYO

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4/05/13 2:31:18 PM#77
Also, it was already explained a lot of time why WAR was a failure, and why CU is different. I'm tired of explaining it over and over, so if you still want to talk about it, you better go get yourself some knowledge and not give us the same old arguments.

Wait we need them to explain why WAR failed? All you have to do is spark up an account and see for yourself, it was a terrible game. The most obvious of WoW clones but worse in almost every way. Thats the kind of devs we want to throw money at nowadays? Not me and hopefully not most of you either.

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  Thane

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4/05/13 2:36:16 PM#78
Originally posted by saurus123

and why this game is in this hype thing?

 

game is not even in developement phase

all we got by now is a concept only and asking for 2 mil $$

shouldnt be in the list in first place

actually it is.development phase ain't only beta ^^

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  Ogrelin

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4/05/13 2:36:44 PM#79


Originally posted by botrytis
I am not kicking down CU - just kicking down all the hype is all. The game is not even in development and people think it is the next best thing since peanut butter. When you think about game development 4 million dollars is not alot of money to commit to such an ambitious game. But if the game looks like any of the tech demos - they better rethink what they are doing.

 

Open world PvP is OK for a short time - after a while people get bored with it and leave these type of games and only people left are the people who like this style of game. That is a SMALL amount of the gaming population.

 

Remember, the game isn't even IN DEVELOPMENT OR CODING and people are hyping it. We have had this problem with SWTOR and GW2 and the haters ran rampant over the fans. Now the rabid fans are hyping a VAPOURWARE game and wonder why people are reacting.

 

KICKSTARTER DOES NOT MEAN THE GAME WILL EVEN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.  Please wait to hype the game until a beta test has started.


To get the game funded we NEED to hype it to get peoples attention... All kickstarters need to do this...right?

We bump posts on forums we send information to gaming sites and click on links to gaming sites so that they post even more news about the game when they get many hits... ect ect..

  FromHell

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4/05/13 2:47:39 PM#80
Originally posted by Qallidexz

I noticed everytime our game gets to #1 on the hype meter, it shoots down several points all at once... It seems that some people are artifically keeping it down, maybe by giving it 1 ratings?

 How on earth can you be hyped about a game with zero gameplay footage? They don´t have a prototype, this the only recent KS campaign I´ve seen without solid gameplay videos, even Divergence a 1 man indie sandbox MMO has a prototype, Star Citizen had footage, Elite had footage... you get it.

No footage, no hype

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw

Best MMOs ever played: Ultima, EvE, SW Galaxies, Age of Conan, The Secret World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
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The Return of ELITE !

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