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  SBFord

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OP  4/04/13 9:45:12 AM#1

During the recent Game Developer's Conference, we managed to get our hands on the iPad version of the forthcoming Ultima Forever and, boy, was it sweet. Check out our impressions and then head to the comments to continue the conversation.

The demo we saw began with a tap movement system which also has smartpath to get around the dungeons and outside areas. You can interact with a lot of objects in the game. There are levers, traps, and gates. As you go through a dungeon there are checkpoints which allow you to respawn so you don’t have to go back to the beginning.  The interface moved very well on the iPad and the look of the game is beautiful. The hand painted tiles stand out on the screen and it is easy to get around.

Read more of Garrett Fuller's Ultima Forever: Lady British’s Rule at GDC.

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  Elderknight

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4/04/13 5:27:17 PM#2
seems to have great ideas, will be worth checking out, thanks for the info.
  Drakynn

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4/04/13 5:32:22 PM#3
From what I read on other sites this is a good game hampered by an aggressive microtransaction system,which seems to be the SOP of EA these days.Of course this game isn't released yet so it could change.
  Po_gg

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4/04/13 6:03:17 PM#4

Too bad there's still no info about the pc version, only that it will come Soon(tm) in the future. It will be a decent title to spend some time on until Shroud.

"tap targeting" lol

  chr1sm

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4/04/13 7:46:32 PM#5
There's a BIG difference between Ultima ONLINE and the Ultima series. When(most) people reference UO, they are talking about Ultima Online the 2nd Age specifically(pre-trammel which killed the game). There was a very distinct experience with UO that hasn't been achieved/replicated til this day. To anyone that's played UO every game since then has been an Everquest clone. The term "sandbox" has been watered down since then. Anyway, I can tell right now this game is going to flop, it's nothing but another hack/slash/quest MMO making its way now to the iPad. Wooptie doo. This game looks to have been inspired more from the Ultima Series(which I can care less about) and not Ultima Online- the greatest mmo ever.

I'm waiting for Richard Garriot's Shroud of the Avatar. Did he even have anything to do with UF?
  User Deleted
4/04/13 8:42:20 PM#6
Originally posted by chr1sm
There's a BIG difference between Ultima ONLINE and the Ultima series. When(most) people reference UO, they are talking about Ultima Online the 2nd Age specifically(pre-trammel which killed the game). There was a very distinct experience with UO that hasn't been achieved/replicated til this day. To anyone that's played UO every game since then has been an Everquest clone. The term "sandbox" has been watered down since then. Anyway, I can tell right now this game is going to flop, it's nothing but another hack/slash/quest MMO making its way now to the iPad. Wooptie doo. This game looks to have been inspired more from the Ultima Series(which I can care less about) and not Ultima Online- the greatest mmo ever.

I'm waiting for Richard Garriot's Shroud of the Avatar. Did he even have anything to do with UF?

No, it just gave people who weren't interested in getting murdered the second they stepped outside of town a place to play without worrying about some jackass who they have no chane of defeating taking their stuff. It's also a well documented fact that subscriber numbers greatly increased with the introduction of Trammel. So in other words...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

As for the game at hand... yeah, no. Not interested in the slightest. It's Ultima in name only, and even then only so EA can make some money off of folks looking for nostalgia. I myself will be waiting for Mr. Garriott's upcoming game for a true Ultima experience.

 

  trancejeremy

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4/04/13 11:00:56 PM#7

So they turned Ultima into Gauntlet?  Finding keys?  Does it constantly ask you for quarters? Avatar needs food!

 

Great, just great.

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  redcapp

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4/04/13 11:42:22 PM#8

I hope this project fails miserably.  Any Ultima fan should feel insulted that EA has the audacity to tarnish the series' name with this nonsense.  Live up to the legacy?  Please.

 

 

  chr1sm

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4/05/13 1:43:41 AM#9
Originally posted by DalekThay
No, it just gave people who weren't interested in getting murdered the second they stepped outside of town a place to play without worrying about some jackass who they have no chane of defeating taking their stuff. It's also a well documented fact that subscriber numbers greatly increased with the introduction of Trammel. So in other words...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

As for the game at hand... yeah, no. Not interested in the slightest. It's Ultima in name only, and even then only so EA can make some money off of folks looking for nostalgia. I myself will be waiting for Mr. Garriott's upcoming game for a true Ultima experience.

Sorry to burst your bubble, the wide-held belief is that Trammel killed the true UO experience as it was known  - the ongoing adrenaline rush of open world PvP (in a game that was NOT marketed as a "pvp game") was a major/key beloved aspect that hasn't been successfully recreated since.

 

Subscriptions grew after Trammel (a largely promoted expansion in very niche market) for the same reason they grew with Everquest ect.. More people started getting cable/dsl/getting internet in general/UO and MMORPGs started becoming more popular as well. With your same logic is WoW must be the best MMORPG there is because most of the masses have subscribed?

 
  sumo0

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4/05/13 2:15:56 AM#10

Yet another EA monster is spawned.

 

Thanks but no thanks. My dogs poo is worth more in my point of view since i can atleast use that to fertilize a forest.

Ill be waiting for a real developer to make an actual game and not just some service platform that they can use to bombard you with their ads.

  oubers

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4/05/13 3:18:34 AM#11
Originally posted by sumo0

Yet another EA monster is spawned.

 

Thanks but no thanks. My dogs poo is worth more in my point of view since i can atleast use that to fertilize a forest.

Ill be waiting for a real developer to make an actual game and not just some service platform that they can use to bombard you with their ads.

^^THIS^^

 

  couponfork

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4/05/13 4:54:01 AM#12
I've been a fan of UO since the beginning and while this game clearly isn't anything related to UO -- for a mobile game it doesn't look half bad, could be a nice time waster.
  wordiz

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4/05/13 7:07:46 AM#13
EA. Nuff said. It could be Ultima Online 2. If EA has anything to do with it, it will be garbage.

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  kosac

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4/05/13 7:27:00 AM#14
Originally posted by oubers
Originally posted by sumo0

Yet another EA monster is spawned.

 

Thanks but no thanks. My dogs poo is worth more in my point of view since i can atleast use that to fertilize a forest.

Ill be waiting for a real developer to make an actual game and not just some service platform that they can use to bombard you with their ads.

^^THIS^^

 

+1

  Yaevindusk

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4/05/13 7:32:35 AM#15

 

Might've given this a chance if they just named Lady British Baron British instead.  Maybe Duke British or something.  Though the whole "Lady British" is almost offensive to fans of Ultima's lore continuity.  In that I don't mean anything sexist, but if Lara Croft was suddenly turned into a guy who throws empty bottles of beer at his enemies it would likely feel the same as it does with this.  Now, I know that Lord British is copy righted under Mr. Garriot, but there are stills that could be translated into a "Lord" such as the beforementioned "Baron" British.

It's a nitpick to be sure, but one that's nearly unforgivable and seems to be an affront on Richard himself and those who were fans of the games he was a part of.  Bad public relations move if they were trying to get the sights of old school Ultima fans, and they needed that kind've backup considering this just seems to be a mobile cash cow trying to pray on the the consumer market.

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  Senadina

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4/05/13 1:20:02 PM#16
Paying real money for keys to unlock random boxes is abhorrent to me. The first time I saw this was Allods Online, and since then it's cropped up in GW2, Defiance, and any number of browser games. Yes, some let you "find" keys in game, but the drop rate is intentionally miniscule. My other issue here is that microtransactions are determining game design, and the gaming experience is suffering for it.

  DrNo172000

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4/05/13 1:48:04 PM#17
Originally posted by chr1sm
 This game looks to have been inspired more from the Ultima Series(which I can care less about) and not Ultima Online- the greatest mmo ever.
 

Have you ever played any of the Ultima games?  Because this game has zero in common with the Ultima series.  Ultima Online has a lot in common with them.

  BillMurphy

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4/05/13 2:05:26 PM#18
Originally posted by Yaevindusk

 

Might've given this a chance if they just named Lady British Baron British instead.  Maybe Duke British or something.  Though the whole "Lady British" is almost offensive to fans of Ultima's lore continuity.  In that I don't mean anything sexist, but if Lara Croft was suddenly turned into a guy who throws empty bottles of beer at his enemies it would likely feel the same as it does with this.  Now, I know that Lord British is copy righted under Mr. Garriot, but there are stills that could be translated into a "Lord" such as the beforementioned "Baron" British.

It's a nitpick to be sure, but one that's nearly unforgivable and seems to be an affront on Richard himself and those who were fans of the games he was a part of.  Bad public relations move if they were trying to get the sights of old school Ultima fans, and they needed that kind've backup considering this just seems to be a mobile cash cow trying to pray on the the consumer market.

I think it's actually intended to be Lord B's daughter, and is representative of Kate Flack leading design, rather than Garriott.  Not a sex-change.

  mysticaluna

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4/05/13 7:38:01 PM#19
Lord of the Rings Online and Vanguard Saga of Heroes both have keys to open lockboxes, so people usually just give away all of the boxes or just sell them for peanuts on auction house, because most of us won't pay real money for keys... we all have tons of worthless lockboxes, my baby low levels below 10 on Vanguard have several boxes that I won't waste keys on... 
  GrayGhost79

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4/05/13 7:48:04 PM#20
Lord British's and Shroud of the Avatar: Forsaken Virtues

vs. 

Lady British's and Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar 

 

Gee... I wonder how this is going to turn out... lol. 

 

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